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GRITTY TROOPS GRIND UP GUERRILLAS BLOCK BY BLOCK
New York Post ^ | 4/07/04 | LOURDES NAVARRO and BASSEM MROUE , AP

Posted on 04/07/2004 12:21:33 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:20:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

April 7, 2004 -- FALLUJAH, Iraq - In a narrow alley, Marines pinned down by a hail of guerrilla fire sent up red smoke in a cry for help. Tanks pounded shell after shell into houses, while troops on the city's edge crawled forward on their bellies, firing on guerrillas.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fallujah; iraq; iraquprising; marines; muslims; vigilantresolve

1 posted on 04/07/2004 12:21:33 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Then they dig their own grave.
2 posted on 04/07/2004 12:33:30 AM PDT by Domangart
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3 posted on 04/07/2004 12:33:59 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Hi Mom! Hi Dad!)
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To: Domangart
"Yesterday evening, U.S. planes firing rockets destroyed four houses in two neighborhoods, witnesses said. The strike killed 26 Iraqis, including women and children, and wounded 30 others, said Rafie al-Issawi, a doctor at Fallujah General Hospital, where the casualties were taken. The deaths brought the total number of Iraqi dead yesterday to 34, the hospital reported."

You can't imagine how uninteresting I find that.
4 posted on 04/07/2004 12:49:05 AM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: kattracks
Apparently, we're supposed to weep for their dead-- it's too late for that now. If they don't want collateral damage, they should stop aiding the a-holes of Fallujah.
5 posted on 04/07/2004 12:50:18 AM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: kattracks
..."They insurgents usually fire and run. This time they're digging in, which is the first time we've seen them do that,"
Ebert said...

That would be because they are surrounded by Marines and there is no place to run to other than hell.
6 posted on 04/07/2004 12:55:18 AM PDT by Sabatier
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To: kattracks
Give the families of Fallujah 48 hours to leave the town. Inspect those leaving for weapons, and then level the place as a warning to those who want to burn, kill, or harm in any way the presence of American military in other sections of Iraq and the Arab world generally.

I am sick and tired of seeing our military getting their ass kicked, because American politicians don't want to admit that real war means civilian deaths.

Remember the devastation of England by Germany V2 rockets? There was indiscriminate bombing of civilian targets. Remember the annihilation of Dresden, Germany - a civilian population almost wiped off the map because of day and night bombing by American and British forces?

The whole idea of a 'civil' war is absurd on its face. We started it with our financing the war crimes trials of Yugoslavia's elected politicians. The trials have proven to be a world class joke. There can be no such thing as a 'civil' war, because war is a kill or be killed proposition. The guy with the biggest club wins. How he wins is akin to second guessing how a club may be used. As nearly as possible, civilian populations are immune to military force. However, where, as in the present case, a civilian population supports and hides an armed force, that population must be held responsible for the consequences of their active role in protecting our enemy.

Burn Fallujah to the ground. It is an enemy stronghold, protected by local civilians. American patrols are easy game. Procrastination of this end result is unacceptable.

7 posted on 04/07/2004 12:55:43 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Sabatier
Apparently, 150 cars or some such of Sadr's a-holes surrounded the Polish base -- I'm sure there was a Hell of a pucker factor amongst our good friends the Poles. Sadr's a-holes just did it to show strenth, they left without attacking the Poles.

I think we should have an AC130 on the ready, lets get the air assets up and ready to go. If they pull this move again I say let's bring the HIGHWAY OF DEATH to these animals.
8 posted on 04/07/2004 12:58:39 AM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys
Would these be the same AP reporters who had advance notice of the slaughter of the 4 brave Americans, the same AP reporters who parked their camera to capture that atrocity rather than report their advance info, the same AP reporters who should be jailed upon sight (though I advocate a much "stiffer" penalty for them)?
9 posted on 04/07/2004 1:10:06 AM PDT by hmmmmm
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To: hmmmmm
I hate to say it, but if I was over there up to my knees in it --the Euro pr*cks from Reuters, the Beeb and our domestic slimeballs at Ap, CNN, etc would be on my hunting list -- and it would be purely business, not personal.
10 posted on 04/07/2004 1:14:07 AM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys
So you heard/read the same thing I did, that the camera shots were courtesy of "Reuter's Arab stringers and the AP"?

Our troops deserve yet another award, this one for "self-restraint in the face of traitorous/treasonous actions of fellow Americans (or those who call the U.S. home)". I'll never understand how anyone who has ever crossed our shores could be complicit in the murder of an American. I'll also never understand why we don't use, at the very least, nationality profiling during the Customs process.

11 posted on 04/07/2004 1:23:52 AM PDT by hmmmmm
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To: hmmmmm
Yeah, the obnoxious "affirmative action" Leftists that run the "mainstream" media haven't vetted the arabs they hired at all. They basically put Al Qaeda in the country to incite anti-coalition violence and give away our troops' positions. Isn't it great that the winners that run the media who think the sucker punch on the Pentagon was fair game are hiring (and paying them well) Osamists to cover the war?

Our media is so stinking bad it's a wonder that this country just doesn't take over the anchor desks and send the Rats over to Fallujah to see how secularism, homosexuality and utter nutsy leftism is received by the locals in Fallujah and Sadr City.
12 posted on 04/07/2004 1:32:58 AM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: kattracks
U.S. forces called out a weapon rarely used against the Iraqi guerrillas: the AC-130 gunship, a warplane that circles over a target, laying down a devastating barrage of heavy machine-gun fire.

They mis-describe the AC-130. The heavy machine gun fire is the least of their problems if they ever come out of their holes. Even if they don't it'll dig a nice deep one for them. They ought to dig for oil with that thing.

13 posted on 04/07/2004 1:44:30 AM PDT by Tredge
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To: faithincowboys
Here's where we differ :), I think the networks vetted them. They vetted them to their own way of thinking which is treasonous at best. They vetted them enough to discover that they'd hired the type of people who would say anything for a buck... ie: the perfect "reporter"/alphabet network employee.
14 posted on 04/07/2004 1:45:05 AM PDT by hmmmmm
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To: hmmmmm
I agree. I wouldn't trust Peter Jennings or Westin or Pinchy Sulzberger to hire a camera crew to film paint dry.

These guys are such a-holes. They are like Chris Matthews--who plainly wants all Hell to break lose in Iraq.

I've said it from the beginning, if these a-holes woke up tommorow to news that 1,000 GIs died, they would be happy because it would be the death knell for Bush's re-election and it would prove "war is bad, Always."

The media and the Rats in DC make up the Fifth Column-- no doubt about it.
15 posted on 04/07/2004 1:50:45 AM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys
I read an article here, earlier, about our Armed Forces starting their own news reporting service. I'm going to try to find a link to it, seems to me it's the perfect foil to the lies (other than most of what we hear from FNC) that are reported by the non-political press.
16 posted on 04/07/2004 1:56:50 AM PDT by hmmmmm
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To: faithincowboys
Here's a link to the article I referenced http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1112260/posts (I've no idea if it will show up as a true link but I hope it will :))
17 posted on 04/07/2004 2:01:05 AM PDT by hmmmmm
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To: hmmmmm
Sadly, this is coming online a bit late. We need to get our message out. Unfortunately, most J school people are explicitly anti-american. Hopefully, we have really solid patriots running the operation. Patritotism??? How archaic and simple minded says the Left.

I am so sick of the Left, I believe they have provided immense aid and comfort to the enemy. They are operating without consciences.

Shame on them!
18 posted on 04/07/2004 2:05:59 AM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: hmmmmm
Great-- army camera teams. This could be great and not a moment too soon.
19 posted on 04/07/2004 2:08:22 AM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys
I choose to believe that there's always hope, that common sense is really practical sense. (And that what one publicly proclaims isn't necessarily what one believes... or votes).
20 posted on 04/07/2004 2:14:55 AM PDT by hmmmmm
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To: kattracks

"Commader: Set guns to Frappe..."

21 posted on 04/07/2004 2:35:43 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: hmmmmm
I'll also never understand why we don't use, at the very least, nationality profiling during the Customs process.



Surely you jest? The right joins w/the ACLU to scream about civil liberties at the same time they bash the administration for not preventing 9/11. As we speak, the ACLU is suing over the *do not fly* list.

Too many people will sell out our security in the name of privacy, which is equated w/freedom. These same people seem to think they can stop terrorism by concealed carry of automatic arms.

Do I sound bitter? This sort of insanity keeps me up at night, so I guess bitterness is accurate.

The people who want us dead and gone hate everything we stand for. They only cross our shores in order to eventually harm us. If they win, there will be no such thing as privacy or civil liberties and gun ownership will not be available to the remaining dhimmis.
22 posted on 04/07/2004 2:54:46 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: kattracks
Yesterday evening, U.S. planes firing rockets destroyed four houses in two neighborhoods, witnesses said. The strike killed 26 Iraqis, including women and children,

This would be devastating to America's reputation in the Islamic/Arab world IF Al Jazeera and other "mainstream" Arab media outlets had not been screeching and ranting at full volume since October '01 over hyped, slanted or entirely delusional "crusader" atrocities. Since they're already at "10" they can't turn the volume up any more!

Having been damned even if we "don't," there's no sense now in foolish restraint. I'm not saying, of course, that civilians should be targeted, but only that, in Fallujah, if so much as one bullet flies out of a house aimed at our troops, we should send one bomb crashing in. Move down the street and repeat.

23 posted on 04/07/2004 3:08:12 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: hmmmmm
I totally agree with you. I would have a hard time restraining myself from not shooting every single one of them that stuck their head out.
24 posted on 04/07/2004 3:17:21 AM PDT by daddyOwe
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To: faithincowboys
When word gets out that some of the Fallujah murderers were identified through pictures (probably taken by media cameras) the reporters might not be so welcome in other towns and may become targets themselves.
25 posted on 04/07/2004 3:30:04 AM PDT by rabidralph (Oh yes, Wyoming!)
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To: Robert Drobot
"Give the families of Fallujah 48 hours to leave the town. Inspect those leaving for weapons, and then level the place as a warning to those who want to burn, kill, or harm in any way the presence of American military in other sections of Iraq and the Arab world generally."

From the things I have read of the history of the middle east, they would understand this more than us trying to make nice. We've tried the carrot, now its time for the stick.

26 posted on 04/07/2004 3:34:53 AM PDT by RushLake (Permission from the UN...we don't need no stinking permission slip from the UN.)
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To: kattracks

In God We Trust…..Semper Fi!

27 posted on 04/07/2004 3:56:09 AM PDT by North Coast Conservative (Never take a gun to a gunfight that is less than .40 cal)
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To: Stultis
The strike killed 26 Iraqis, including women and children,

Don't they mean female terrorists and junior terrorists? Kill'em all.
28 posted on 04/07/2004 4:20:53 AM PDT by LetsRok
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To: kattracks
Bump for the NY Post and their headline writers!

Ooh rah!

A bit more detail:

8 Marines Advance North Into Fallujah ~  AP, Fox News | 4/07/04 | Bret Baier, Steve Centanni and AP

29 posted on 04/07/2004 6:22:59 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Today we did what we had to do.They counted on America to be passive.They counted wrong."- R Reagan)
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To: hmmmmm
Reuters isn't American.
30 posted on 04/07/2004 7:14:06 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: LetsRok
looking back into ancient history, we find that the Romans were able to maintain control over their massive empire with the numbers of troops they had with one tactic and one tactic alone. If even one of their legions was attacked or killed, the offending town or city was razed to the ground and the earth was salted.

Sounds like Fallujah should become the "salt of the earth" eh?

Kick their A** and take no names Marines and God Speed! Our prayers are with you!

Cheers!
31 posted on 04/07/2004 7:47:53 AM PDT by SZonian (The truth hurts, so bury it! (Liberal tagline))
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To: rabidralph
Now your talking! The murder, mayhem of American civilians in Fallujah was a media event. I'd pull in the media to determine if they had a hand in creating those barbaric scenes, and then restrict every damn one of them to receipt of military cleared photos of war scenes.

We don't need the marxist CNN, Washington Post and New York Times reporting the actions of American military movements.

32 posted on 04/07/2004 10:36:15 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: rabidralph
Not only that if I was one of the animals in that AP footage--I would dye my hair and alter my appearance. I suppose they can't go blonde like our fugitives do--that in and of itself would draw attention.
33 posted on 04/07/2004 10:48:59 AM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: kattracks
Love your headline.
34 posted on 04/07/2004 10:50:20 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: kattracks
Tanks pounded shell after shell into houses, while troops on the city's edge crawled forward on their bellies, firing on guerrillas.

God bless our troops and give them, and our country, the strength to see this Sadr battle through to the end.

35 posted on 04/07/2004 10:59:07 AM PDT by eyespysomething (To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first, and call whatever you hit the target)
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To: conspiratoristo
LOL re. your #27.

"Man that's gonna leave a scar."

36 posted on 04/07/2004 11:00:49 AM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: RushLake
We've tried the carrot, now its time for the stick.

From your pen to the ears of President Bush.

37 posted on 04/08/2004 1:10:38 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: SZonian
The real problem is that these are pretty green troops. It appears that the attacks were somewhat influenced by the timing of the large troop rotations that have been going on.
38 posted on 04/08/2004 1:13:06 AM PDT by Texasforever (God Bless And Keep Our Troops)
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