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7 South Korean Captives RELEASED
According to FNC

Posted on 04/08/2004 8:50:49 AM PDT by utvolsfan13

Just flashed on Fox News Channel.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; pow

1 posted on 04/08/2004 8:50:49 AM PDT by utvolsfan13
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To: utvolsfan13
Great. How did they manage this ?? or pay off someone???
2 posted on 04/08/2004 8:52:26 AM PDT by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: utvolsfan13
Maybe somebody realized this tactic wasn't going to gain them much sympathy or support, even in the Mohammedan world.
3 posted on 04/08/2004 8:52:30 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Gay marriage is for suckers...)
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To: utvolsfan13
7 South Korean Captives RELEASED

If this is true, maybe the terrorists heard the South Korean Army was coming. They can get just a tad nasty.

4 posted on 04/08/2004 8:52:33 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: Mark17
Tell the North Koreans that.
5 posted on 04/08/2004 8:54:08 AM PDT by BCrago66
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To: dennisw
They've already got the Japanese, why not let the S. Koreans go and look reasonable!
6 posted on 04/08/2004 8:54:32 AM PDT by threat matrix
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To: Mark17
If this is true, maybe the terrorists heard the South Korean Army was coming. They can get just a tad nasty.

The only one in Vietnam who scared the Vietcong to death. Vietcong had their bestial ways to wage war (torture etc.) so did the Koreans

7 posted on 04/08/2004 8:55:10 AM PDT by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: dennisw
Someone might have told them about ROK Marines. They would give our marines pause. Those folks do not kid around.
8 posted on 04/08/2004 8:55:39 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: utvolsfan13
So now it's just the 3 Japanese being held?
Maybe they decided it was better to focus their efforts on one country?
9 posted on 04/08/2004 8:56:12 AM PDT by saquin
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To: utvolsfan13
They only flashed it once. Haven't seen it again. I hope it's true.
10 posted on 04/08/2004 8:56:28 AM PDT by utvolsfan13
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To: CasearianDaoist
ROK READY
11 posted on 04/08/2004 8:57:14 AM PDT by utvolsfan13
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To: utvolsfan13
Islam hates America not Korea.
12 posted on 04/08/2004 8:58:04 AM PDT by cynicom
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13 posted on 04/08/2004 8:59:20 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Don't be a nuancy boy)
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To: saquin
Incidentally, Freeper American_in_Tokyo just found and translated a web page belonging to one of the three Japanese "aid workers." They (or at least that one) actually appear to have been anti-war agitators of some kind who were doing who knows what in Iraq.
14 posted on 04/08/2004 9:00:51 AM PDT by livius
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To: utvolsfan13
Kimchee farts will do that....
15 posted on 04/08/2004 9:01:00 AM PDT by whd23
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To: saquin
Here's his post on the Japanese:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1113742/posts
16 posted on 04/08/2004 9:02:41 AM PDT by livius
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To: utvolsfan13
GOTTA SEE THIS-War for Enduring Freedom 4/8/04 - Fallujah, Abu Ghraib, Sadr City, Nasiriyah, Kirkuk, Mosul, Najaf

CPA HQ now Baghdad.


17 posted on 04/08/2004 9:03:23 AM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: Diogenesis
VOTE ARE NEEDED!
18 posted on 04/08/2004 9:03:59 AM PDT by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: dennisw
You must have forgotten the about the take no prisoners, behead everyone Turks.
19 posted on 04/08/2004 9:06:29 AM PDT by fuente
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To: utvolsfan13
While these dumb asses where at it, why didn't they take a few Ghurkas hostage.

They do not want 20,000 ROK in country.

20 posted on 04/08/2004 9:10:50 AM PDT by MattinNJ (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.)
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To: Mark17
They can get just a tad nasty.

My old man told me that in Vietnam the ROK's were the MP's you didn't mess with.

21 posted on 04/08/2004 9:12:46 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: fuente
You must have forgotten the about the take no prisoners, behead everyone Turks.....

Turk troops in Vietnam war? I'll have to check it out!
22 posted on 04/08/2004 9:21:10 AM PDT by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: dennisw
Thank God.
23 posted on 04/08/2004 9:34:42 AM PDT by keats5
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To: utvolsfan13

Eight Koreans, three Japanese, two Arab Israelis kidnapped by insurgents in Iraq

By JASON KEYSER
The Associated Press
4/8/04 12:13 PM

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- Iraqi insurgents kidnapped eight South Koreans, three Japanese and two Arab Israelis, and captors armed with automatic rifles and swords threatened in a video released Thursday to burn the Japanese alive if Tokyo does not withdraw from the U.S.-led coalition within three days.

Two South Korean TV stations reported from Iraq early Friday that the South Koreans -- Christian missionaires -- had been released, but the Foreign Ministry in Seoul could not confirm that.


24 posted on 04/08/2004 9:45:43 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: dennisw
The Turks were in the Korean War, I don't know if they were in Vietnam.
25 posted on 04/08/2004 9:52:13 AM PDT by andrew1957
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To: CasearianDaoist
Someone might have told them about ROK Marines. They would give our marines pause. Those folks do not kid around.

So does that mean American troops can come home and stop protecting them now?:P

26 posted on 04/08/2004 9:56:25 AM PDT by browsin
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To: browsin
Well over 50,000 Koreans died in that war (57K? not sure) and about 36K Americans (the British lost around 1100 and the French 270 or so, to put that into perspective.) It is we that called for armistice, not they. They have a much larger force thereon the ground then we do. Our force is there as a toehold to keep the Chinese out and to give us a real time on the ground reason to intervene - either strategically or tactically - without having to go through the congress first. The ROK military served quite honorably beside us in Vietnam and they at least have no "debt" to us.

The Koreans are quite brave soldiers, marines, airmen ans sailors. as fine as any in the world. I would not let a group of leftists in the Korean media, quasi socialist political movements or a pack of young college age kids lead you to get the wrong impression of Korea. Shall we judge America solely by the Democrats, CBS and MoveOn?

Our presence there has broader implications as well for Japan and Taiwan. A great deal that one hears out of the media about the place is either fear mongering or conjecture.

We bear some responsibility for there situation, not all but some. Are we not obliged to keep our commitment to them?

27 posted on 04/08/2004 10:58:19 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: utvolsfan13
Are there any ROK forces in Iraq? Are there any proposed to arrive?
28 posted on 04/08/2004 11:09:12 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (To increase the power of the State over the individual is a crime against Humanity.)
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To: CasearianDaoist
Over 220,000 Koreans soldiers died in that war and over 54,000 Americans.

Korean War Casualties

US Korean War Casualties

It was horrific. Hundreds of thousands more South Korean citizens were killed. It is estimated that over one million North Korean soldiers were killed and an unknown (but very high) number of North Korean citizens.

Jeff

29 posted on 04/08/2004 10:42:09 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Those US numbers are not right if you look they say the number of US military that "died during the war, not in the war. The DoD recanted this last year and lowered the casualties into the 30K range. The differentials seem high for accidents and the like but we had a 5 million man armed forces at the time and the emphasis on safety was not so high.

The Korean number seems quite suspect to me also but I do not have any explanation off hand. I will say the the Korean memorial in downtown New York lists Korean casualties in the 50K range. Could this be casualties on both side? That might make sense. I was only talking about S. Korea. But you are right in the main, it was much worse that Vietnam if one considers how short the war was.

THe returning Vets were not treated uch better than the ones from Vietnam. It is called "the forgotten war" for good reason.

30 posted on 04/09/2004 3:52:45 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: CasearianDaoist
If you are sent to a war zonbe and die due to friendly fire, accidents or other necessary operations that go hand in hand with the war...it makes little difference to you or your family, friends and loved ones, how it occurred.

We lost over 54,000 Americans as a result of that war...to me, they are all casualties of war.

I do not doubt the S. Korean figures. When you consider that the capitol, a very densely populated city, was completely overrun and changed hands four or more times, with their soldiers fighting to hold it...it is not difficult to imagine. Look at how many men we lost in the 1860's when Americans fought Americans without the modern implements of war.

Having traveled to that part of the world and worked with and talked to many Koreans regarding the same...I do not doubt those numbers.

It was indeed a horrific war...and we as a people have not paid the homeage to those who fought there that we ought to have, and have therefore not really learned the lessons that they spilt their blood to teach us (IMHO).

What is so sad is that it did not have to end the way it did (or actually, the way it didn't). We had thoroughly beaten the N. Koreans and had it within our power to uterrly halt the Chinese...before they came across...and the planning was in place and ready to be implemented. But our President at the time made an international decision as opposed to an American decision. It costs us another 20,000+ American lives, the hard won victory, North Korea, a stable Asia...and it led to Vietnam and the ultimate build-up of Red China. I believe Red China would have fallen and gone back over to the Nationalists had we made that move. I have not forgotten, and find it almost impossible to forgive Truman to this day because I had uncles and in-laws who fought there, saw it all, and have passed the truth on to me.

Ah...but hindsight is 20-20 and we are in fact left with the conditions we now have. It is for us and the upcoming generations to wade through those conditions, as we are now doing.

Thanks for the reasoned and interesting dialog.

Jeff

31 posted on 04/09/2004 5:21:01 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
We lost over 54,000 Americans as a result of that war...to me, they are all casualties of war.

No those deaths were all over the world, not in Korea. The downgraded figure for US casualties include accidents, so the KIA is even lower. The other 20,000 or so were in other countries all together and not directly a part of that war. We had troops all over the world back then. The DoD made a big deal out of apologizing for this last year. Honestly, you have you fact wrong here. At least about US casualties. As I said I have no real data about Korea's casualties, yu could well be right about that.

Believe me, I am that last person in the world to ever play down the contributions of our vets, this just happens to be wrong data.

32 posted on 04/09/2004 6:13:41 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: CasearianDaoist
Thank you for pointing this out to me. After further study, I see that the in-theater deaths from all causes are 36,576 and that 17,670 died in other locations out of theater in the same period.

While any death of our personnel is tragic, it was very misleading to have, for so many years, mentioned the 54,000+ figure in conjunction with the Korean War IMHO.

I am glad the record has been set straight, and that I have now learned of it, albeit at a late date.

Even with the 17,000 less deaths, it was a horrific struggle over the space of 2 1/2 -3 years. Much more intense than anything we have seen since. Even more intense than WW II when you consider the relative small surface area involved.

Again, thanks and best Fregards to you and yours.

33 posted on 04/09/2004 6:29:07 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Yes it was tragic, that is what happens when you let a Democrat run a war.
34 posted on 04/09/2004 6:59:11 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Mark17
If this is true, maybe the terrorists heard the South Korean Army was coming. They can get just a tad nasty.

First thing that popped into my head when I read this this article.

35 posted on 04/09/2004 10:45:49 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Gunslingr3
My old man told me that in Vietnam the ROK's were the MP's you didn't mess with.

When I was in Nam, at Bien Hoa Air Base, I once saw about 30 VC prisoners, bound and blind folded. I wondered why they looked so scared, until I realized the South Koreans had them.

36 posted on 04/09/2004 11:37:27 AM PDT by Mark17
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