Posted on 04/08/2004 9:24:05 AM PDT by MarMema
Only Canadian conservative National Post (see FR thread)
Jerusalem.
Lion, you've got to keep your eye on the big picture. The global picture.
Why do you suppose the Roman Catholic pope has turned a blind eye at the desecration by muslims of sacred Christian sites in either of these locations?
They are not Roman Catholic Churches. They're Orthodox Christian churches.
Instead we find this pope regularly wagging his finger at Israel for their retaliatory defense against his good muslim friend, terrorist, and murderer of children, Yassir Arrifat.
It's amazing that a hollow philosophy of pacifism has caused a so-called Christian leader to believe he is protecting Roman Catholic property by sleeping with a heathen religion which calls for the death of all Christians.
This pope is delusional. His public efforts have been directed at bringing together every religion in the world under one tent. He prefers to think his utopian 'one world religion' will be embraced by his heathen muslim, tibetan and hindu buddies ( or so he foolishly believes are his buddies ).
After all is said and done, the only challenge to this idiocy from within Christian ranks comes from orthodox, fundamentalist, and Traditional Roman Catholic Christians. These are the Christian hindrances to JP2's final solution - the molding the new V2 church to fit everyone( pagan, heathen, false god anti-Christ believers ).
You and I know this attempt to pacify non-Christians is more than short sighted. It's stupid, and suicidal.
In Kosovo and Jerusalem muslims are eliminating opposition to his 'one god' master plan. Not condemning the barbarism serves his purpose. So he thinks.
So he should talk with one side of his mouth and make the other side match. Either leave us alone or prove you really do want to be sister churches. Seems to me like he only wants to be buddies when he needs new converts in Russia and Alexy won't let him come for a visit, or he's on a power grab in Ukraine. Politics over Christ - doesn't impress me.
Meantime it's the Russians who are helping the Serbs. Those mean nasty Russians that all the RC like to call names whenever they can, over on the religion forum. But I see who is doing Christ's work and who is playing politics. That's all I need to know to be sure I am in the right place.
Flame away if you like. The truth is the truth.
A lot of good extra vigilance will do. First thing the NATO/KFOR assholes did back in 1999 was to go house to house and disarm all the Serbs in order to make Kosovo "safe" for "peace loving" muslim terrorists. The Bush administration must be pressured to return the Serb army to Kosovo and get US troops the hell out.
I believe that he is not. Holy Father only follows the path of PIUS XII
Vatican discovered "outsourcing" long time ago.
After I regained my composure I gave them a nice history lesson on their heritage. Made sure to tell them several times about how horrified the Nazis were at the barbarian nature of the Utashe.
And it has not gone by the wayside, for me, that the pope has been silent as this takes place in Kosovo. All after his yapping here, there, and everywhere about his great love for us, and now,hmmm, nothing. I search the news for "pope" and "Kosovo" and nothing comes up.
You would think a man who so desired to court us and claimed to have such a need to be united to us would have a few things to say about such obvious persecution, and about our tremendous losses.
But then, maybe not. Looks like I was right about this pope all along. Thank you, Alexy, for your leadership and for being careful about your associations.
You are obviously very stuck with that age old Balkan mind set of hate not to mention this same hate that has poisoned your mind in believing that the Pope does not care or condemn the evil that is going on in Kosovo. He means the world which includes the Kosovo. Do you only think that evil is only happening in Kosovo? Your narrow mind set keeps you in the Balkans so it is reasonable to see why the rest of the world does not matter.
Maybe you should look up on the Internet and read John Paul's Easter message? You are really out there in left field by mentioning the Utashe and how barbaric they were, then in the next paragraph mention that John Paul has nothing to say about Kosovo and the suffering of the Serbs there. I do believe you are wrong in what you say and spread on FR which is obvious in your dislike of Catholics or what is it you are really trying to say? Had the experience once of seeing what was left of a young civilian Catholic Croat girl who had volunteered to deliver some food to some old folks at at place called Pivare near a Serbian Village of Okucani in southern Croatia back in 1993. The medical examiner counted 42 bullet wounds that riped through her young body. She apparently was not dead enough after the first 10 or so fatal wounds. The trail of two individuals led back to the Serbian side i.e. Okucani.
Every side including the one you are very bias about were equally responsible for the carnage that took place during the conflict. Remember Srebrenica or was that OK or maybe Vukovar? Arkan a good guy? Do not take the moral high ground when it comes to the barbarity that took place and is taking place in the Balkans my dear boy because you sir are pissing in the wind. The bias that you present to the world does nothing but make one wonder if you would have been very content to have been one of those two Serbs that killed that innocent unarmed Catholic Croat girl who was just trying to help out some old people? Charity is a virtue of being a christian?
You may want to talk to Wonders and get a second opinion because she had worked in Southern Croatia back in the bad old days and I am sure she will be happy to give you some lessons on how stupid you sound. No one came out of it with clean hands so don't be so quick to point the finger.
"May world leaders be confirmed and sustained In their efforts to resolve satisfactorily the continuing conflicts that cause bloodshed in certain regions of Africa, Iraq and the Holy Land."
Should we assume The Holy See is satisfied with the Kosovo development?
If not, why it is not mentioned?
Hypocrisy was always this pope's strongest character. It was a few years ago and it still is. If that is hate then there are a lot of Catholics who hate him far more than I do. Read what they have to say about him on the religion forum sometime.
Truth is a virtue of being Orthodox.
Did you actually read Pope John Paul's message? I did and can you tell me that the above excerpt from it that you kindly provided states that he John Paul wishes ill will to wards the Serbs in Kosovo? I think not. These are John Paul's words and nowhere did I see any Orthodox bashing on his part. If you care to look outside of Kosovo you will see and understand that their is more than enough pain and suffering being endured by a lot of people in the world not only in the Balkans. You missed John Paul's message entirely and only saw what your bias tells you to see.
" all who consider themselves children of Abraham" that includes both of you does it not?
MarMema...a word of caution. I hope you and other Orthodox Christians never entertain the possibility of welcoming roman catholics as a sister church. The papacy is not a church. It is a monstrous institution for the care, feeding, nurturing and sanctuary of pedophiles and all sorts that prey upon children and each other. Granted there are many deeply spiritual parishoners within its worldwide parishes that blindly follow along lending credance to the illusion that some legitimate ministry is taking place. I cannot speak for them or the question of why they are there lending support to such dark works, but their presence does not suffice to make the institution Christ's church.
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