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Islamist fifth columns
The Washington Times ^ | April 8, 2004 | Arnaud de Borchgrave

Posted on 04/08/2004 10:02:20 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:41:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The general commanding four loyalist columns moving on Madrid during Spain's civil war (1936-39) referred to his militant supporters within the capital as his "fifth column."

Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union maintained fifth columns in the United States. These were groups of secret sympathizers, sleeper cells, or supporters of an enemy that engage in espionage or sabotage, or simply disinform about the attacker's intentions.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arnauddeborchgrave; europe; islam; jihadinamerica; muslimamericans; muslims; teror; wot

1 posted on 04/08/2004 10:02:21 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah
Where is the Muslim Martin Luther King or Martin Luther who will become the uncontested voice of Islam?

Not holding my breath for one to appear.

2 posted on 04/08/2004 10:05:56 AM PDT by b4its2late (I'm not insensitive, I just don't care.)
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To: Ooh-Ah
It is absolutely time for the entire world of Islam to stand up and be loud and clear about where they stand, and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!
3 posted on 04/08/2004 10:06:26 AM PDT by tkathy (nihilism: absolute destructiveness toward the world at large and oneself)
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4 posted on 04/08/2004 10:07:33 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Freepers post from sun to sun, but a fundraiser bot's work is never done.)
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To: Ooh-Ah; happygrl; knighthawk
Mr. Alamoudi, now in jail in Virginia was directly involved in 16 Islamist front.... The FBI has gathered enough evidence to put away several prominent figures.

But diplomatic relations with Saudi Arabia — and Saudi influence on the price of oil — have limited expulsions to 16 Arab clerics with Saudi diplomatic passports who were proselytizing impressionable young minds with inflammatory cliches about Jews and Christians.

Saudi Ping.
5 posted on 04/08/2004 10:09:24 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: tkathy
It is absolutely time for the entire world of Islam to stand up and be loud and clear about where they stand, and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!

As far as I can tell, they have. They did it on September 11, 2001; they did it on March 31, 2004 in Fallujah and numerous other times in places from Israel to Kosovo...

If there are any "good muslims", their silence and inactivity convicts them.

6 posted on 04/08/2004 10:16:09 AM PDT by Gerasimov (Who put all that sand on top of OUR oil, anyway?)
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To: Ooh-Ah
In the Netherlands, Muslims are a majority among children under 14 in the country's four largest cities. Rotterdam, a port city where half the people are of foreign origin, will soon unveil Europe's largest mosque. In Brussels, the capital of the European Union, Muhammad has been the name most frequently given for newborn baby boys. Osama is a close second.

Pretty shocking statistics. They bring to mind this question--If you think America is pretty much standing alone today against the Islamofacists, what's it going to be like ten years from now?

7 posted on 04/08/2004 10:26:58 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: All; KirkBloke; LN2Campy; Steve_Seattle; olde north church; justshutupandtakeit; wtc911; ...
Yesterday, there was a related discussion on Oriana Fallaci's new book says Europe is becoming 'a province of Islam'.
8 posted on 04/08/2004 10:30:37 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah
Don't trust islamics. Islam--the religion of violence.
9 posted on 04/08/2004 10:40:30 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: b4its2late
The Moslems are using Saudi Arabian money to convert Americans to Islam, by the droves. The entire game is to gain more Moslems to have a critical mass that would create its own momentum. The easiest way for the average person to reflect on is the extensive number of inmates who convert to Islam in the US prisons. How does that take place in a government controlled institution, and why our media never uncover such taboo subject? In essence, because our liberal media keeps forcing us to RESPECT other people' faith, we never question how can a faith calls for violence against innocents, and be RESPECTED. This stupid PC notion, UNTIL TODAY, is still causing the majority of Americans to discriminate between Islam, the religion, its followers, and the terrorists. This was easy to do by the head of our government himself, the President; he calls our war "war against terror"! Notice here, the name does not say who are the terrorists, or on which behave they are fighting. The answer to both are: They are Islamic terrorists, and they are fighting on behalf of Islam. Their fellow Moslems in America and Europe are in full support and SYMPATHY with them. Now, let me go back to our prison system. How difficult is it to discover that a "BIG" black Moslem inmate asks the new prisoners to convert to Islam in order that they may get protection inside the big house. A typical prisoner hears of rapes and violent beatings by gangs in the prison, and he needs to literarily protect his own ass. Hence the MAJORITY of prisoners in the US convert to Islam. This mess does not stop there; no, they tell the prisoner on his way out, if he abandoned Islam, they know where to get him! This is a mafia intimidation tactics. The net effect of which is to gain adherents to this filthy cult.

Another easy tactics is the Saudis give gift to young Arab Moslem men to visit the US, on the condition that they marry, convert, and impregnate Christian girls. That is very simple. A young Arab Moslem guy goes to a trailer park with a few dollars in his pocket, and he picks a fat white girl from a broken family. Her self esteem is probably close to ZERO, he buys her cheap gifts, and get her pregnant - he names the baby Mohammad! The Saudi are happy, he is happy, the fat chick is happy because she is a mom! He leaves the fat chick to another fat chick, and spreads his seeds making more Mohammads than rabbits. What a freaking racket! 60 Minutes will never expose this as I just did. Your local paper, or Time magazine will never touch it with a ten foot pole. We know even our own president would not get near this problem. A few decades later, we have majority Mohammad among us, and we still don’t know how did that happened, simply because we RESPECT other people “religion”

10 posted on 04/08/2004 10:56:56 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: swarthyguy
ping
11 posted on 04/08/2004 11:02:10 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: Ooh-Ah
Condi Rice just finished testifying that the Saudis are cooperating fully with us. She either does not understand the Saudis mission to conver us, or misleading the 9/11 commission.
12 posted on 04/08/2004 11:04:47 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: Gerasimov
. It is very similar to the mafia. They live in Italian neighborhood; the citizens are aware of them and are afraid of them. Courageous citizens get killed, the rest are silenced. The mafia also goes around and spread a few dollars on little punks in the neighborhood - they become informants and agents of intimidation
13 posted on 04/08/2004 11:09:47 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: Ooh-Ah
One of these days we're going to have to admit that Islam is the enemy. The one's who are trying to kill us are simply reading their Koran. The one's who aren't trying to kill us are just along for the ride.
14 posted on 04/08/2004 11:17:41 AM PDT by cmak9
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To: Ooh-Ah
I've been saying all along that Islamism is more than simply a religion.

It is primarily a political ideology; no different than nazism, fascism or communism.

It is entirely evil and unredeemable.

We must fight this -ism just as hard and long as we fought the other -isms...until they are utterly stamped out.

15 posted on 04/08/2004 11:18:47 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: cmak9
One of these days we're going to have to admit that Islam is the enemy. The one's who are trying to kill us are simply reading their Koran
16 posted on 04/08/2004 11:19:49 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: Ooh-Ah
Its this multicultural nonsense that will get us killed. The "Chronicles" website has a critique of the WOT by its foreign affairs correspondent and his critique mainly rests on the fact that the bipartisian consenus in DC over multiculti nonsense is the stumbling block which we might not get over.
17 posted on 04/08/2004 11:23:07 AM PDT by junta
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To: tkathy
People that are "religous" are a problem, when that religion demands harm on their neighbor. There is no comparison betwee Judaism, Christianity and the violent religion of the Moslem community.

Islam and it's variants should be expelled from all freedom loving countries. The fruit of Islam is hate, bitterness and poison. They have no business in a free society. They desire to either kill us, or enslave us. The Crusades were a good thing.

Blessings, Bobo
18 posted on 04/08/2004 11:24:38 AM PDT by bobo1
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Muslim sentiments are not much different in Continental Europe. Increasingly, Europeans are older and affluent and find themselves surrounded by immigrants who have little respect for local traditions. In the Netherlands, Muslims are a majority among children under 14 in the country's four largest cities. Rotterdam, a port city where half the people are of foreign origin, will soon unveil Europe's largest mosque. In Brussels, the capital of the European Union, Muhammad has been the name most frequently given for newborn baby boys. Osama is a close second.

Islam-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

19 posted on 04/08/2004 12:42:49 PM PDT by knighthawk (Some people say that we'll get nowhere at all, let 'em tear down the world but we ain't gonna fall)
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To: San Jacinto
To compound things, more muslims in Holland return home to find brides that have not been exposed to western society. This ensures at least one more generation of subservient muslim women raising sons in EURABIA.
20 posted on 04/08/2004 1:07:49 PM PDT by wtc911 (Europe without God plus islam = Eurabia)
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To: Ooh-Ah
Not only did Al-Amoudi run the "school" that trained or sponsored all the muslim Chaplains in US Armed Forces, it was he who brought the whole idea of muslim Chaplains to the Clinton administration.
21 posted on 04/08/2004 1:13:35 PM PDT by wtc911 (Europe without God plus islam = Eurabia)
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To: Ooh-Ah
The Fifth Column is alive and well in the U.S.

I wonder how many Americans will be murdered before we address the problem? 3,000 hasn't phased anyone.

22 posted on 04/08/2004 1:43:24 PM PDT by neutrino (Oderint dum metuant: Let them hate us, so long as they fear us.)
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To: swarthyguy
Ping Noted.

Sigh.

More bad news.

23 posted on 04/08/2004 2:31:21 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: Ooh-Ah
Muslims need to be treated like the Communists and Communist sympathizers of the last Century. They need to be kept out of the country. But if they are citizens and already here, they need to be constantly monitored because their loyalties are greatly suspect.

Islam is a religion completely alien to political freedom and the concept of individual civil rights and will assault our Constitution and way of life if given the opportunity to succeed.

If not stopped, it will destroy us just as surely as Communism ever hoped.

24 posted on 04/08/2004 2:55:48 PM PDT by Gritty ("The WOT challenge is preventing terror from sheltering behind secular-liberal tolerance-S Trifkovic)
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To: neutrino
>>>>>>>>The Fifth Column is alive and well in the U.S.<<<<<<

And Fifth columnist are better spread than during Cold War. From prisons, innercity slums to media, Harvard Univesrsity and The State Department.

25 posted on 04/08/2004 2:59:10 PM PDT by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: Ooh-Ah
Politically correct immigration policies are threatening Europe's sovereignty. American immigration policies are not a great deal better.
26 posted on 04/08/2004 6:06:44 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: knighthawk
bttt
27 posted on 04/08/2004 11:32:36 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: philosofy123
Great summary.
28 posted on 04/09/2004 4:57:08 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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