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A Physician's View of the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ
CBN.com ^ | 4-11-04 | Dr. C. Truman Davis

Posted on 04/11/2004 5:57:17 PM PDT by truthandlife

WARNING: MATERIAL IN THIS ARTICLE MAY BE UNSUITABLE FOR YOUNGER CHILDREN. PARENTAL DISCRETION IS ADVISED.

About a decade ago, reading Jim Bishop’s The Day Christ Died, I realized that I had for years taken the Crucifixion more or less for granted — that I had grown callous to its horror by a too easy familiarity with the grim details and a too distant friendship with our Lord. It finally occurred to me that, though a physician, I didn’t even know the actual immediate cause of death. The Gospel writers don’t help us much on this point, because crucifixion and scourging were so common during their lifetime that they apparently considered a detailed description unnecessary.

So we have only the concise words of the Evangelists: “Pilate, having scourged Jesus, delivered Him to them to be crucified — and they crucified Him.” I have no competence to discuss the infinite psychic and spiritual suffering of the Incarnate God atoning for the sins of fallen man. But it seemed to me that as a physician I might pursue the physiological and anatomical aspects of our Lord’s passion in some detail.

What did the body of Jesus of Nazareth actually endure during those hours of torture?

This led me first to a study of the practice of crucifixion itself; that is, torture and execution by fixation to a cross. I am indebted to many who have studied this subject in the past, and especially to a contemporary colleague, Dr. Pierre Barbet, a French surgeon who has done exhaustive historical and experimental research and has written extensively on the subject.

Apparently, the first known practice of crucifixion was by the Persians. Alexander and his generals brought it back to the Mediterranean world — to Egypt and to Carthage. The Romans apparently learned the practice from the Carthaginians and (as with almost everything the Romans did) rapidly developed a very high degree of efficiency and skill at it. A number of Roman authors (Livy, Cicer, Tacitus) comment on crucifixion, and several innovations, modifications, and variations are described in the ancient literature. For instance, the upright portion of the cross (or stipes) could have the cross-arm (or patibulum) attached two or three feet below its top in what we commonly think of as the Latin cross. The most common form used in our Lord’s day, however, was the Tau cross, shaped like our T.

In this cross, the patibulum was placed in a notch at the top of the stipes. There is archeological evidence that it was on this type of cross that Jesus was crucified. Without any historical or biblical proof, Medieval and Renaissance painters have given us our picture of Christ carrying the entire cross. But the upright post, or stipes, was generally fixed permanently in the ground at the site of execution and the condemned man was forced to carry the patibulum, weighing about 110 pounds, from the prison to the place of execution.

Many of the painters and most of the sculptors of crucifixion, also show the nails through the palms. Historical Roman accounts and experimental work have established that the nails were driven between the small bones of the wrists (radial and ulna) and not through the palms. Nails driven through the palms will strip out between the fingers when made to support the weight of the human body. The misconception may have come about through a misunderstanding of Jesus’ words to Thomas, “Observe my hands.” Anatomists, both modern and ancient, have always considered the wrist as part of the hand.

A titulus, or small sign, stating the victim’s crime was usually placed on a staff, carried at the front of the procession from the prison, and later nailed to the cross so that it extended above the head. This sign with its staff nailed to the top of the cross would have given it somewhat the characteristic form of the Latin cross.

But, of course, the physical passion of the Christ began in Gethsemane. Of the many aspects of this initial suffering, the one of greatest physiological interest is the bloody sweat. It is interesting that St. Luke, the physician, is the only one to mention this. He says, “And being in agony, He prayed the longer. And His sweat became as drops of blood, trickling down upon the ground.” Every ruse (trick) imaginable has been used by modern scholars to explain away this description, apparently under the mistaken impression that this just doesn’t happen. A great deal of effort could have been saved had the doubters consulted the medical literature. Though very rare, the phenomenon of Hematidrosis, or bloody sweat, is well documented. Under great emotional stress of the kind our Lord suffered, tiny capillaries in the sweat glands can break, thus mixing blood with sweat. This process might well have produced marked weakness and possible shock.

After the arrest in the middle of the night, Jesus was next brought before the Sanhedrin and Caiphus, the High Priest; it is here that the first physical trauma was inflicted. A soldier struck Jesus across the face for remaining silent when questioned by Caiphus. The palace guards then blind-folded Him and mockingly taunted Him to identify them as they each passed by, spat upon Him, and struck Him in the face.

In the early morning, battered and bruised, dehydrated, and exhausted from a sleepless night, Jesus is taken across the Praetorium of the Fortress Antonia, the seat of government of the Procurator of Judea, Pontius Pilate. You are, of course, familiar with Pilate’s action in attempting to pass responsibility to Herod Antipas, the Tetrarch of Judea. Jesus apparently suffered no physical mistreatment at the hands of Herod and was returned to Pilate.

It was then, in response to the cries of the mob, that Pilate ordered Bar-Abbas released and condemned Jesus to scourging and crucifixion. There is much disagreement among authorities about the unusual scourging as a prelude to crucifixion. Most Roman writers from this period do not associate the two. Many scholars believe that Pilate originally ordered Jesus scourged as his full punishment and that the death sentence by crucifixion came only in response to the taunt by the mob that the Procurator was not properly defending Caesar against this pretender who allegedly claimed to be the King of the Jews. Preparations for the scourging were carried out when the Prisoner was stripped of His clothing and His hands tied to a post above His head. It is doubtful the Romans would have made any attempt to follow the Jewish law in this matter, but the Jews had an ancient law prohibiting more than forty lashes. The Roman legionnaire steps forward with the flagrum (or flagellum) in his hand. This is a short whip consisting of several heavy, leather thongs with two small balls of lead attached near the ends of each. The heavy whip is brought down with full force again and again across Jesus’ shoulders, back, and legs.

At first the thongs cut through the skin only. Then, as the blows continue, they cut deeper into the subcutaneous tissues, producing first an oozing of blood from the capillaries and veins of the skin, and finally spurting arterial bleeding from vessels in the underlying muscles. The small balls of lead first produce large, deep bruises which are broken open by subsequent blows. Finally the skin of the back is hanging in long ribbons and the entire area is an unrecognizable mass of torn, bleeding tissue. When it is determined by the centurion in charge that the prisoner is near death, the beating is finally stopped. The half-fainting Jesus is then untied and allowed to slump to the stone pavement, wet with His own blood.

The Roman soldiers see a great joke in this provincial Jew claiming to be king. They throw a robe across His shoulders and place a stick in His hand for a scepter. They still need a crown to make their travesty complete. Flexible branches covered with long thorns (commonly used in bundles for firewood) are plaited into the shape of a crown and this is pressed into His scalp. Again there is copious bleeding, the scalp being one of the most vascular areas of the body.

After mocking Him and striking Him across the face, the soldiers take the stick from His hand and strike Him across the head, driving the thorns deeper into His scalp. Finally, they tire of their sadistic sport and the robe is torn from His back. Already having adhered to the clots of blood and serum in the wounds, its removal causes excruciating pain just as in the careless removal of a surgical bandage, and almost as though He were again being whipped the wounds once more begin to bleed. In deference to Jewish custom, the Romans return His garments. The heavy patibulum of the cross is tied across His shoulders, and the procession of the condemned Christ, two thieves, and the execution detail of Roman soldiers headed by a centurion begins its slow journey along the Via Dolorosa.

In spite of His efforts to walk erect, the weight of the heavy wooden beam, together with the shock produced by copious blood loss, is too much. He stumbles and falls. The rough wood of the beam gouges into the lacerated skin and muscles of the shoulders. He tries to rise, but human muscles have been pushed beyond their endurance. The centurion, anxious to get on with the crucifixion, selects a stalwart North African onlooker, Simon of Cyrene, to carry the cross. Jesus follows, still bleeding and sweating the cold, clammy sweat of shock, until the 650 yard journey from the fortress Antonia to Golgotha is finally completed. Jesus is offered wine mixed with myrrh, a mild analgesic mixture. He refuses to drink. Simon is ordered to place the patibulum on the ground and Jesus quickly thrown backward with His shoulders against the wood. The legionnaire feels for the depression at the front of the wrist. He drives a heavy, square, wrought-iron nail through the wrist and deep into the wood. Quickly, he moves to the other side and repeats the action, being careful not to pull the arms to tightly, but to allow some flexion and movement. The patibulum is then lifted in place at the top of the stipes and the titulus reading, “Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews,” is nailed in place.

The left foot is now pressed backward against the right foot, and with both feet extended, toes down, a nail is driven through the arch of each, leaving the knees moderately flexed. The Victim is now crucified. As He slowly sags down with more weight on the nails in the wrists, excruciating pain shoots along the fingers and up the arms to explode in the brain — the nails in the wrists are putting pressure on the median nerves.

As He pushes Himself upward to avoid this stretching torment, He places His full weight on the nail through His feet. Again there is the searing agony of the nail tearing through the nerves between the metatarsal bones of the feet. At this point, as the arms fatigue, great waves of cramps sweep over the muscles, knotting them in deep, relentless, throbbing pain. With these cramps comes the inability to push Himself upward. Hanging by his arms, the pectoral muscles are paralyzed and the intercostal muscles are unable to act. Air can be drawn into the lungs, but cannot be exhaled. Jesus fights to raise Himself in order to get even one short breath. Finally, carbon dioxide builds up in the lungs and in the blood stream and the cramps partially subside. Spasmodically, he is able to push Himself upward to exhale and bring in the life-giving oxygen.

It was undoubtedly during these periods that He uttered the seven short sentences recorded:

The first, looking down at the Roman soldiers throwing dice for His seamless garment, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.”

The second, to the penitent thief, “Today thou shalt be with me in Paradise.”

The third, looking down at the terrified, grief-stricken adolescent John — the beloved Apostle — he said, “Behold thy mother.” Then, looking to His mother Mary, “Woman behold thy son.”

The fourth cry is from the beginning of the 22nd Psalm, “My God, my God, why has thou forsaken me?”

Jesus experienced hours of limitless pain, cycles of twisting, joint-rending cramps, intermittent partial asphyxiation, searing pain where tissue is torn from His lacerated back as He moves up and down against the rough timber. Then another agony begins -- a terrible crushing pain deep in the chest as the pericardium slowly fills with serum and begins to compress the heart. One remembers again the 22nd Psalm, the 14th verse: “I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint; my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.”

It is now almost over. The loss of tissue fluids has reached a critical level; the compressed heart is struggling to pump heavy, thick, sluggish blood into the tissue; the tortured lungs are making a frantic effort to gasp in small gulps of air. The markedly dehydrated tissues send their flood of stimuli to the brain. Jesus gasps His fifth cry, “I thirst.” One remembers another verse from the prophetic 22nd Psalm: “My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou has brought me into the dust of death.” A sponge soaked in posca, the cheap, sour wine which is the staple drink of the Roman legionaries, is lifted to His lips. He apparently doesn’t take any of the liquid.

The body of Jesus is now in extremes, and He can feel the chill of death creeping through His tissues. This realization brings out His sixth words, possibly little more than a tortured whisper, “It is finished.” His mission of atonement has completed. Finally He can allow his body to die.

With one last surge of strength, he once again presses His torn feet against the nail, straightens His legs, takes a deeper breath, and utters His seventh and last cry, “Father! Into thy hands I commit my spirit.”

The rest you know. In order that the Sabbath not be profaned, the Jews asked that the condemned men be dispatched and removed from the crosses. The common method of ending a crucifixion was by crurifracture, the breaking of the bones of the legs. This prevented the victim from pushing himself upward; thus the tension could not be relieved from the muscles of the chest and rapid suffocation occurred. The legs of the two thieves were broken, but when the soldiers came to Jesus they saw that this was unnecessary.

Apparently, to make doubly sure of death, the legionnaire drove his lance through the fifth interspace between the ribs, upward through the pericardium and into the heart. The 34th verse of the 19th chapter of the Gospel according to St. John reports: “And immediately there came out blood and water.” That is, there was an escape of water fluid from the sac surrounding the heart, giving postmortem evidence that Our Lord died not the usual crucifixion death by suffocation, but of heart failure (a broken heart) due to shock and constriction of the heart by fluid in the pericardium.

Thus we have had our glimpse — including the medical evidence — of that epitome of evil which man has exhibited toward Man and toward God. It has been a terrible sight, and more than enough to leave us despondent and depressed. How grateful we can be that we have the great sequel in the infinite mercy of God toward man — at once the miracle of the atonement (at one ment) and the expectation of the triumphant Easter morning.


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: cbn; christ; crucifixion

1 posted on 04/11/2004 5:57:17 PM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife
Thank you for this very fascinating (and heartbreaking) medical glimpse at the crucifixion of our Lord.
2 posted on 04/11/2004 6:09:54 PM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS (is OWIE an actual word?)
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To: truthandlife
This article is very upsetting...Like the Passion. But it's Easter and a joyful day and He was triumphant over his brutal death!
3 posted on 04/11/2004 6:15:48 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: truthandlife
Our Lord died not the usual crucifixion death by suffocation, but of heart failure (a broken heart)

I guess that rather makes sense.
4 posted on 04/11/2004 6:22:20 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: LibreOuMort
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5 posted on 04/11/2004 6:26:22 PM PDT by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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To: truthandlife
Amen!
6 posted on 04/11/2004 6:31:17 PM PDT by arepublicifyoucankeepit
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To: truthandlife
Heartrending but uplifting at the same time. Thanks for posting this.
7 posted on 04/11/2004 6:41:19 PM PDT by upchuck (Pay attention!! This tagline changes on an irregular schedule and without prior warning.)
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To: truthandlife
I have heard most of these details before. It's true that the wrist and hand could be considered as one part. The Shroud of Turin shows wounds in the wrists. Many years ago I heard that nails through the palms would not hold the weight of a body. One would have to postulate ropes around the wrists in that case, because nails through the palms would not hold.

It was usual for criminals to carry only the cross piece. If we work from the gospel account, however, one could postulate one possible reason why Jesus might have carried the whole cross. The two thieves crucified with him were scheduled to die, so the uprights would have been in place at Golgotha. But there may not have been a third upright in place because only two criminals were expected to die. Jesus was brought before Pilate at the last moment, and even after that it seems evident that Pilate hoped that a scourging would satisfy the Jewish leaders and He would not have to be crucified.

That would explain why Jesus had to carry the whole cross, if He did. Either that extra burden or the prior scourging would also explain why He needed help to carry the cross.

It seems likely that a Roman cross was used, because the gospel accounts say that some wrote and affixed to the cross over Jesus' head "Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum." That implies that the upright piece went above the cross piece, as it is usually portrayed with INRI written on it.
8 posted on 04/11/2004 6:43:36 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: truthandlife
Barbet's book, A DOCTOR AT CALVARY, gives a much more detailed description, including details of his experiments on cadavers.

The business of the victim alternately pushimg himself up on the nail in is feet and hanging from his wrists shows clearly in the Shroud of Turin. The nail-marks are in the wrists, and there are two trails of blood, at different angles, from the nail-marks.

9 posted on 04/11/2004 6:46:32 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at http://www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: truthandlife
My God in Heaven. What he went through for us.
10 posted on 04/11/2004 6:53:08 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: truthandlife
Almost alone among media writers who are not in the medical profession, I included the main points this writer discusses, in my column on FR and on ChronWatch, "The Passion of the Christ, and of Mankind." The movie is gruesome, but it is correctly gruesome. It has only one historical error, showing the nails driven into His palms, rather than his wrists.

Truth is the proper starting point for the understanding of any subject, including His passion.

Congressman Billybob

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11 posted on 04/11/2004 6:53:43 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Cicero
... only two criminals were expected to die.

Probably three were scheduked to die, which includes Barabbas.

12 posted on 04/11/2004 7:18:47 PM PDT by curmudgeonII
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To: truthandlife
Thank you very much for posting this. Dr. Davis was a close friend and spiritual advisor to me. He was one of the holiest men I've ever had the priviledge of knowing. He told me that it was doing the research on this very topic that converted him. He later was consecrated an Anglican Church bishop.
13 posted on 04/11/2004 7:33:05 PM PDT by miele man
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To: miele man
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing the information.
14 posted on 04/11/2004 7:42:06 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: RadioAstronomer
Remembering the price paid...
15 posted on 04/11/2004 8:22:44 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: truthandlife
I'd like to post this observation made by David Terasaka, M.D. http://www.new-life.net/crucify2.htm. Where he states,

"While many of the physical signs preceding death were present, Jesus did not die from physical causes.
Jesus gave up His life of His own accord. All of the final statements that Jesus makes on the cross leave one with the impression that Jesus chose His time to die. His last statement, "Into your hands I commit my Spirit" shows that Jesus' death occurred by giving Himself up. John's gospel records Jesus' death in this way: "With that He bowed His head and gave up His spirit" (John 19:30b). Matthew writes: "And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, He gave up His spirit" (Matthew 27:50).

Earlier in Jesus' ministry, Jesus made it clear that only He has the power to lay down His life (John 10:17-18). He proved His power over death by His resurrection. Jesus gave up His life of His own accord.

And by doing so made possible our salvation thru him. Praise the Lord God for his everlasting and unconditional love.

16 posted on 04/11/2004 8:43:01 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: truthandlife
Thank you for posting this. A dramatization can convey a lot, but not like this. It makes it even harder to conceive that anyone would willingly go through this horror. But He did, and we can never, ever repay Him. We'll have all of eternity to thank Him in a perfect language and it will never be enough. Praise a most merciful God!
17 posted on 04/11/2004 8:48:52 PM PDT by skr (Pro-life from cradle to grave)
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This article is not specifically about the Shroud but rather about the effects of crucifixion.

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18 posted on 04/11/2004 9:37:18 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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Please take me off of this ping list. Thanks.
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To: truthandlife
BTT for further contemplation.

Regards, Lenny

21 posted on 04/11/2004 10:00:10 PM PDT by lennydetroit
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22 posted on 04/11/2004 11:18:01 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller (Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
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To: Congressman Billybob
It has only one historical error, showing the nails driven into His palms, rather than his wrists.

Although the exact placement in the palms may be incorrect, there is new scholarship and science that show that nails MAY actually have entered through the palm.

Dr. Frederick T. Zugibe, Adjunct Associate Professor of Pathology, Columbia University, College of Physicians & Surgeons, N.Y. Chief Medical Examiner, Rockland County, N.Y. disagrees with Barbet and the accepted idea that the nails were driven through the wrists.

In his paper Pierre Barbet Revisited, Zugibe shows that Barbet's anatomy was a little wrong. Barbet proposed that the nail went through Destot's Space, a natural opening between bounded by the CAPITATE, the SEMILUNAR, the TRIQUETRAL and the HAMATE bones (Figure 1). In so doing, Barbet theorized, the nail struck the median nerve, which caused the thumb to contract into the center of the palm.


Figure 1 The bones of the wrist, showing Destot's Space and the start of the "Z" space.

According to Zugibe:

"Unfortunately, THIS CANNOT BE TRUE because these four bones are located on the little finger (ulnar) side of the wrist not on the thumb (radial) side of the wrist as is depicted on the Shroud! LOOK AT THE HAND WOUND IMAGE ON THE SHROUD TO CONFIRM THIS!(Figure 2) Note that the hand wound image on the Shroud is indeed on the radial (thumb) side of the wrist.


Figure 2 The exit wound of the nail on the Left wrist of the Image on the Shroud.

He said that when he drove the nail through Destot's Space, anywhere from 1/2 to 2/3 of the trunk of the median nerve was severed. This IS NOT anatomically possible because the median nerve is not present in the area of Destot's Space but instead runs along the wrist on the thumb (radial) side of the wrist and along the thenar furrow into the palm of the hand. An easy way to locate the median nerve on your own wrist is to bend your wrist forward. You will see a firm, rope-like structure jutting outward. This is the palmaris longus tendon which tells us that the median nerve runs along the thumb side of this tendon. Obviously, Barbet was damaging the ulnar nerve which runs in the area of Destot's space.

WHERE THEN WOULD THE WOUND HAVE TO BE MADE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SHROUD?

Before answering this question, REMEMBER- the hand wound image is located on the back of the hand and only depicts the EXIT of the nail not its ENTRANCE. WE DON'T SPECIFICALLY KNOW WHERE THE NAIL ENTERED!

According to Zugibe the places a nail could be driven are limited:

First of all, it can't be Destot's space because it's on the wrong side of the wrist and,

Secondly, it can't be the center of the palm because it would not exit at the site of the wound image where the Shroud shows it nor could it support the weight of the body as determined by Barbet's experiments, and by mathematical calculations.

Thirdly, it can't be the space between the radius and ulna because it wouldn't exit where the Shroud shows it.

Zugibe proposes two different pathways, one also through the wrist, on the thumb side, and the other starting from the base of the thenar furrow that exits exactly where the Shroud shows it did. (The Thenar Furrow is the line of the hand that a palmreader would refer to as the "Life Line"):

THIS LEAVES ONLY TWO POSSIBILITIES:

ONE: The thumb (radial) side of the wrist i.e. the area of the wrist opposite Destot's Area. The nail could pass through the radial (thumb) side of the wrist through a space created by four other carpal bones; the NAVICULAR, LUNATE, GREATER MULTANGULAR and CAPITATE bones, emerging where the Shroud depicts it. This is a very strong area and the trunk of the median nerve would most likely be damaged by this path.

TWO: The upper part of the palm of the hand ... NOT THE MIDDLE OF THE PALM. This area is equally as sturdy as either Destot's Space or the radial area indicated above and would emerge at the site depicted on the Shroud. This area is located as follows; touch your thumb to the tip of your little finger. A deep furrow called the thenar furrow is seen at the base of the bulky prominence extending from the base of the thumb. This area was first pointed out by Monsignor Alfonso Paleotto, Archbishop of Bologna, who accompanied St. Charles Borromeo to Turin in 1598. It may be of interest that he postulated that the nail would have entered the upper part of the palm obliquely, and pointing toward the arm, it would have emerged where the Shroud depicts it. It is of interest that Barbet severely criticized Paleotto's hypothesis as "anatomically impossible." Monsignor Paleotto was indeed correct. If a nail is driven into this furrow, a few centimeters from where the furrow begins at the wrist, with the point of the nail angled at ten to fifteen degrees toward the wrist and slightly toward the thumb, there is a natural inclination of the nail to an area created by the METACARPAL bone of the index finger and the CAPITATE and LESSER MULTANGULAR bones of the wrist which we have coined the "Z" area (Fig. 5). I demonstrated this path over forty four years ago in the human anatomy dissection laboratory (Fig. 6,7). Last year, a striking unrehearsed event of monumental significance took place in the medical examiner's office that confirms the existence of this path. A young lady had been brutally stabbed over her whole body. I found a defense wound on her hand where she had raised her hand in an attempt to protect her face from the vicious onslaught. Examination of this wound in her hand revealed that she was stabbed in the thenar furrow in the palm of the hand; the knife had passed through the "Z" area and the point exited at the back of the wrist exactly where it is displayed on the Shroud (Figure 3. X-rays of the area showed no evidence of broken bones!


Figure 3 The nail entering the Z space that will exit exactly where the Shroud shows the exit wound.

Thus, it is probably that the nail WAS driven in through the palm although about an inch away from the traditional, iconographic "center of the palm" and about 1 1/2 inches away from the wrist entry required by Destot's Space passage. Maybe Mel got it right and we Shroud scholars have had it wrong for over 100 years!

Disclaimer: When I asked Dr. Alan Whanger, also a medical doctor and retired professor of Medicine, a couple of weeks ago what he thought of Dr. Zugibe's theory, he stated that he disagreed because the nail would have to be driven at an angle, not perpendicular to the hand. He prefered the "Destot's Space" pathway.

I pointed out that if the victim's elbow were forced downward to touch the ground below the patibulum placed on the ground, the hand would assume exactly the correct angle for a perpendicular nail to be driven through the "Z" space. Unfortunately, we were interupted and did not get to continue our discussion.

23 posted on 04/11/2004 11:25:32 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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To: Swordmaker
Please add me to your Shroud of Turin list. Thank you.
24 posted on 04/12/2004 12:04:21 AM PDT by Iris7 (If "Iris7" upsets or intrigues you, see my Freeper home page for a nice explanatory essay.)
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To: Centurion2000
"My God in Heaven. What he went through for us."

Yes.
25 posted on 04/12/2004 5:49:19 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: truthandlife; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp IV; narses; ...

After viewing The Passion of the Christ for the 2nd time on Good Friday, the medical details simply enhance the vivid imagery that immediately springs to mind, thanks to Mel Gibson

26 posted on 04/12/2004 8:08:11 AM PDT by NYer (O Promise of God from age to age. O Flower of the Gospel!)
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To: truthandlife
A Doctor at Calvary Catholic Answers Live, April 9, 2004
A doctor details the Passion of our Lord.
27 posted on 04/12/2004 8:26:10 AM PDT by polemikos (Ecce Agnus Dei)
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To: Cicero
It seems likely that a Roman cross was used, because the gospel accounts say that some wrote and affixed to the cross over Jesus' head "Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum." That implies that the upright piece went above the cross piece, as it is usually portrayed with INRI written on it.

You had other good points, Cicero, about the full cross and not just the cross beam. I have to agree with you.

28 posted on 04/12/2004 12:11:54 PM PDT by xJones
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To: NYer
The body of Jesus is now in extremes, and He can feel the chill of death creeping through His tissues. This realization brings out His sixth words, possibly little more than a tortured whisper, “It is finished.” His mission of atonement has completed. Finally He can allow his body to die.

Apparently, to make doubly sure of death, the legionnaire drove his lance through the fifth interspace between the ribs, upward through the pericardium and into the heart. The 34th verse of the 19th chapter of the Gospel according to St. John reports: “And immediately there came out blood and water.”

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through Me."

29 posted on 04/12/2004 2:17:26 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry said he wasn't at the '71 plot-to-kill meeting, then, he was but voted NO, now he can't recall)
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To: truthandlife
ping to read later...
30 posted on 04/12/2004 2:26:50 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Swordmaker
Thanks for the ping!
31 posted on 04/12/2004 11:00:05 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; All

John 3:16 reminder...


32 posted on 04/03/2012 8:46:22 AM PDT by woollyone ("The trouble with socialism is you run out of other people's money to spend." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: woollyone
Praise God!!!
33 posted on 04/04/2012 8:56:29 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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