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Ben-Veniste Attacks Rice’s Testimony: Using Truth to Tell a Lie
special to FreeRepublic ^ | [17 April, 2004] | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 04/13/2004 9:44:12 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob

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To: Congressman Billybob
I remember seeing 2 interviews on CNN with Ben Laden in the late 90s. The interviews made me mad as Osauma was very critical of the US. Shortly after the last interview, Osauma was put on the FBIs most wanted list. I recall thinking why didn't they ask CNN where he was.

These 2 interviews were more important than the PDB. However, both of these interviews were on Clinton's watch. CNN would edit them now.
21 posted on 04/13/2004 10:39:54 AM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I remember seeing 2 interviews on CNN with Ben Laden in the late 90s. The interviews made me mad as Osauma was very critical of the US. Shortly after the last interview, Osauma was put on the FBIs most wanted list. I recall thinking why didn't they ask CNN where he was.

These 2 interviews were more important than the PDB. However, both of these interviews were on Clinton's watch. CNN would edit them now.
22 posted on 04/13/2004 10:40:13 AM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: Congressman Billybob
While we are on the subject of using truth to tell a lie, some recognition is due to John Kerry, soon to be Democrat nominee for President. This week he reinvented the “Misery Index,” throwing out one statistic that had been used for decades, and adding seven others not used before, to produce the result he sought.

Is this a an indication of things to come in a would-be Kerry Administration? If the economy turns bad, would he change the calculations so the problem magically disappears? Kerry is not worse than Ben-Veniste; he is simply more obvious.

Before his campaign ends he will probably have the NYTimes trying to convince everyone that we are in the 2nd "Great Depression". 'Course, recent history shows that people now generally believe what they personally observe within their own environment rather than what they are being told by the newspapers.

23 posted on 04/13/2004 10:47:46 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Yep. We're sitting in traffic so they can fund the Public Transportation Utopia...)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thanks!You said it well, as usual.
24 posted on 04/13/2004 10:57:35 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning now? Please?)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I don't understand the whining about Ben-Veniste. Every one knew he was a lying scumbag POS when he was appointed to the Commission and, in fact, long before. Why is everyone so exercized when he behaves exactly as predicted? He has no interest to find fact, his only interest is to try to make Bush look bad so, by comparison, Scunbag Willie doesn't look as filthy or corrupt as he did. And, any one who is surprised by Ben performing as should have been predicted, simply does not understand crap weasel motovation.
25 posted on 04/13/2004 11:01:00 AM PDT by Tacis
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thinks for posting this Billybob, excellent comentary as always.

I have avoided watching most of this Partisan Democrat farce as the urge to barf hit me early in the very first session. I had awaited Dr. Rice's testimony with relish though, knowing she was ready, willing and able to lay the facts out there for all to see. She didn't disappoint me.

It wasn't just that Ben-Veniste clown who was in attack mode, though he was the most vicious. Every Democrat on the committee, right down to weasly Bob Kerrey took their turn's trying to bully and rattle her, like ambulance chasers usually reserve for hostile witnesses in a big bucks (for lawyers) trial. Hee,Hee, Dr. Rice came across like not only the only adult in the room , but the only civilized, bipartisan and honest person in the room.

If President Bush doen't do everything he can to groom Dr.Rice to follow him into the Oval 0ffice in 2008, I will be very disappointed.
26 posted on 04/13/2004 11:27:52 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Enough ketchup and a cowpile fried in kerosene, is as palatable as a liberal sauteed in snake oil.)
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To: pogo101
I think your closing quote was Benjamin Disraeli's, not Twain's, but I'm going from memory here.

2. Twain uses the expression in his autobiography, but refers to it as "the remark attributed to Disraeli."

From footnote of the book...The Worst Social Statistic Ever

27 posted on 04/13/2004 11:44:46 AM PDT by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Nicely Done. Now time to take apart Jamie Gorelick.(Though Freeper research is doing a pretty good job of that)
28 posted on 04/13/2004 12:07:02 PM PDT by stylin19a (they call it golf because all the other 4 letter words were taken)
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To: itsahoot
Yhank you for the Twain quote correction. I'm a great student of Twain, but had not noticed his attribution to Disraeli. In the future, I will use that.

John / Billybob

29 posted on 04/13/2004 12:16:33 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
For what it's worth, a co-worker who's not given to political observations brought up the hearings today, incensed at the Dems' viciousness, and contrasted it with Condoleeza Rice's dignified defense of the truth and her articulate testimony.

The hearings seem to be having the same effect the Paul Wellstone Funerally had.

30 posted on 04/13/2004 3:04:11 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Congressman Billybob
B-V did lie. He lied by omission. And C-R caught him big time on it. Look at the exchange:

RICE: You asked me whether or not it warned of attacks.

BEN-VENISTE: I asked you what the title was.

He stopped. She reminded him of the complete question.

A transparent deception which she caught on to quickly.

31 posted on 04/13/2004 4:55:57 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Congressman Billybob
This guy is a creep.
32 posted on 04/13/2004 7:08:00 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Congressman Billybob
Ben Viniste should be very very thankful that he lives where I am not. He should also be very hopeful that we never meet.
33 posted on 04/14/2004 1:17:45 AM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: pogo101; Hegemony Cricket; RobbyS
Ben-Veniste's cute little effort to turn what was supposed to be a non-partisan, non-"Gotcha" search for truth into a partisan cross-examination of someone Democrats know to be a prime GOP contender for future high office, was disgusting. ...... I was at the hearing. Ben-Veniste made me want to go to the front of the rooom and tear his throat out. What a shark! He even has the teeth.

RBV has a "Stalin" like personality about him.

Facing TV cameras, RBV's Gravitas Index spikes to dangerous levels.
Viewers get the uncontrollable urge to throw a shroud over him.

34 posted on 04/14/2004 3:28:57 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Congressman Billybob
This made Ashcrofts full disclosure of the gorelick memo so much sweeter.
35 posted on 04/14/2004 3:44:45 AM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Good article! It needs more show time.
36 posted on 04/14/2004 5:02:23 AM PDT by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: Congressman Billybob
“There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.”

This should be amended to read, "There are lies, damned lies, and Democrats."

37 posted on 04/14/2004 1:36:24 PM PDT by benjaminthomas
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To: Congressman Billybob
Great article, Congressman.

Richard Ben-VeNasty gives new and robust meaning to the term "oily lawyer" for sure!

Do you plan to write your next installment on an even oilier lawyer (she doesn't wear $3000 wide pin-striped Armani suits and $1000 Gucci wingtips, but she is more dangerous than a cottonmouth brooding over her egg nest) Jamie Gorelick, the Hidden Key To 9/11?

38 posted on 04/17/2004 5:37:01 PM PDT by Gritty ("Clinton’s failure to mobilize America after the 1993 WTC attack led directly to 9/11"-Dick Morris)
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