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Military Force May Be Next Option In Fallujah, Myers Says
DoD-AFPS ^ | April 16, 2004 | Sgt. 1st Class Doug Sample

Posted on 04/16/2004 10:23:39 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

American Forces Press Service


Military Force May Be Next Option In Fallujah, Myers Says

By Sgt. 1st Class Doug Sample, USA
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, April 16, 2004 -- Further military action may be necessary in the city of Fallujah, where despite a cease-fire and strained negotiations, insurgents still are shooting at Marines, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said during an April 15 news conference in Baghdad.

Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers, in Baghdad to meet with coalition military commanders, told reporters that although discussions in Fallujah are ongoing, "I think we have to be prepared and prepare ourselves that there may be further military action."

He said that negotiations in the city are ongoing. "We'll have to see how they play out. They can't go on, I don't think in my mind as a military man, forever," he said. "At some point, somebody has to make a decision on what we're going to do, and we certainly can't rule out the use of force there, again, depending on how the negotiations go."

The general also assured reporters there is "sufficient military force" to deal with both the situation in Fallujah and resistance in the south around Najaf. "That is not the issue, and we will deal with it," he said.

Myers, who was joined at the briefing by the Comined Joint Task Force 7 commander, Army Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez, said Marines in Fallujah are obeying the cease-fire, but are being fired upon.

"They can return fire in self-defense, which they do, but they're trying their best to follow the rules of the cease-fire," he emphasized.

The focus in Fallujah has been on radical Shiia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, who is wanted by Iraqi authorities and who Myers said is trying to disrupt the stability in the city. "And if they have to kill innocent Iraqi men, women and children, they'll do that," he said. "Certainly they'll attack the coalition; they'll do other things that extremists and terrorists do. And it just can't be permitted," he said.

He said the U.S., coalition and Iraqi forces are committed to ending the attacks by Sadr's "militia and thugs" as well as by holdouts of Saddam Hussein's regime and foreign fighters. Myers pointed out that nobody wants Sadr brought to justice more than the Iraqi Governing Council and other Iraqi authorities.

"This was not a Shiia uprising," Myers said. "Sadr is a marginalized figure, and he's being marginalized more and more every day by his own actions. When the Iraqi people know the story, the full story of how he used his militia to kill Iraqis, I think they'll understand."

In an effort to tell the "full story," Sanchez said his forces are trying to communicate with the Iraqi people that this is "not about the coalition forces against the Iraqi people" and those responsible for the violence are attacking the democratic institutions of the country.

"They're attacking the religious, the political and the security structures of this country in an effort to take it back towards an oppressive era," Sanchez said. "We're communicating that to the people."

Myers also spoke on the issue of troop rotation in Iraq, after news that some 20,000 troops will be held over in the theater for as much as three months. He told reporters that he will rely on his military commanders on the ground to make that determination, and emphasized the decision will be dictated by the security situation in Iraq.

"The duration for that additional capability to be here in Iraq is to be determined," he said. "It will depend on events here on the ground. But I think what it shows is our resolve to see this situation through."

He said the Pentagon is looking at the next two rotations of forces into Iraq and Afghanistan, and is wrestling with how to rotate forces in and out of those theaters.

Meanwhile, Sanchez pointed out that the Pentagon never dissuaded him from asking for additional troops if needed.

"When we have needed those forces, we have asked for them in that time frame, and we have received the support that was necessary for us to execute our mission here on the ground," he said.

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Fallujah Standoff Can't Continue, CPA Official Says

By Gerry J. Gilmore
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, April 16, 2004 – The standoff between U.S. and coalition forces and insurgents at the Iraqi city of Fallujah can't continue much longer, the Coalition Provisional Authority's chief spokesman said today in Baghdad.

In Fallujah, about 35 miles west of Baghdad, "our Marines have been on the receiving end of shots and violence over the past week" since an April 9 cease- fire went into effect, Dan Senor told reporters at a news conference.

Baathist-regime supporters, foreign terrorists and other malcontents in and around Fallujah have been attacking since U.S. and coalition forces moved toward the city to subdue those responsible for the March 31 killing and debasement of four American contractors and the deaths of five soldiers killed by an improvised explosive device.

Insurgents in Fallujah appear "to be strengthening their defensive position," Senor pointed out, adding, "There's only so long that this situation can continue."

Senor said if the insurgents continue not to observe the cease-fire, the Marines may need to resume offensive operations. "We want to minimize bloodshed, He emphasized. "We want a peaceful resolution, but we can't do that at the expense of our Marines."

Elsewhere in Iraq, U.S. soldiers are deployed about 100 miles south of Baghdad around the city of Najaf to subdue militant Shiia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, wanted by the Iraqi government for the alleged murder of a fellow cleric last year.

Sadr, who repeatedly has called for U.S. and coalition forces to leave Iraq, controls a 3,000-to-6,000-member militia called the Mahdi army, which last week had forcibly taken over several Iraqi cities. Such militias are outlawed in Iraq, and several senior U.S. military officials have called for the destruction of the Mahda army.

Subsequent discussions to peacefully resolve the situations in Fallujah and Najaf, Senor noted, have yet to prove successful.

If discussions to peacefully resolve the Fallujah situation "don't bear fruit," Army Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt noted, then U.S. Marines are prepared to resume combat operations to defeat the insurgents. Kimmitt, who accompanied the briefing with Senor, is deputy operations director for Combined Joint Task Force 7.

The military situation across Iraq remains relatively quiet, Kimmitt noted. However, he pointed out that enemy forces continue to attack U.S. supply convoys along roads leading to and from Baghdad.

There appears "to be a concerted effort on the part of the enemy to try to interfere with our lines of communication (and) main supply routes," the general explained, noting the U.S. military has "alternative methods to get those supplies to our forces."

However, Kimmitt conceded that such enemy practices -– if sustained over an extended period -– could have an adverse effect on the Iraqi economy.

"Fewer supplies are going to be able to get to the people of Baghdad and the surrounding region," he noted, with the effect of raising prices. Kimmitt added that reconstruction projects critical to Iraqi economic development could be stalled.

Efforts to disrupt military supply lines "are clearly" aimed at the U.S. and coalition forces, Kimmitt observed. However, he said, such practices would actually "most harm the people of Iraq."

 


1 posted on 04/16/2004 10:23:41 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; TEXOKIE; Alamo-Girl; windchime; Grampa Dave; anniegetyourgun; ...
Military Force May Be Next Option In Fallujah, Myers Says
 
The general... assured reporters there is "sufficient military force" to deal with both the situation in Fallujah and resistance in the south around Najaf: "we will deal with it.."

"This was not a Shiia uprising," Myers said. "Sadr is a marginalized figure, and he's being marginalized more and more every day by his own actions..."

Myers also spoke on the issue of troop rotation in Iraq, after news that some 20,000 troops will be held over in the theater for as much as three months.

"The duration for that additional capability to be here in Iraq is to be determined," he said. "It will depend on events here on the ground. But I think what it shows is our resolve to see this situation through."


Fallujah Standoff Can't Continue, CPA Official Says

 
The standoff between U.S. and coalition forces and insurgents at the Iraqi city of Fallujah can't continue much longer, the Coalition Provisional Authority's chief spokesman said today in Baghdad.

.."our Marines have been on the receiving end of shots and violence over the past week".. Dan Senor told reporters.

If discussions to peacefully resolve the Fallujah situation "don't bear fruit," Army Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt noted, then U.S. Marines are prepared to resume combat operations to defeat the insurgents.

The military situation across Iraq remains relatively quiet, Kimmitt noted. However...enemy forces continue to attack U.S. supply convoys along roads leading to and from Baghdad.... (an apparent concerted effort) "..to interfere with our lines of communication (and) main supply routes.."

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Godspeed, TROOPS!
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2 posted on 04/16/2004 10:25:29 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("He spares nothing to get to his Marines..They love him." re the command Chaplain in Fallujah,Ramadi)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Military Force May Be Next Option In Fallujah.

I doubt that there ever was any other option.

3 posted on 04/16/2004 10:30:00 AM PDT by Mogollon
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Just do it already. The longer we wait, the worse it'll be.
4 posted on 04/16/2004 10:30:20 AM PDT by Argus (And furthermore, I am of the opinion that Fallujah ought to be destroyed.)
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To: Mogollon
What are they waiting for? Blast them to Allah now.
5 posted on 04/16/2004 10:30:50 AM PDT by AngieGOP
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
bump
6 posted on 04/16/2004 10:32:11 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (~The Dragon Flies' Lair~ Poetry and Prose~)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"At some point, somebody has to make a decision on what we're going to do, and we certainly can't rule out the use of force there, again, depending on how the negotiations go."

That tells me more than I really wanted to know, quite frankly.

7 posted on 04/16/2004 10:32:12 AM PDT by Who dat?
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Option #1 - Blast them halfway to kingdom come.
Option #2 - Blast them all the way to kingdom come.
8 posted on 04/16/2004 10:33:20 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Did ya notice yesterday at Rummy's news conference he never answered the question on exactly what they were discussing.
9 posted on 04/16/2004 10:34:33 AM PDT by Getsmart64 (LANTIRN - Designed to kill, maim, and destroy ....America's enemies...)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
There never was any other way with these murdering subhumans. We should exterminate them as the vermin they are, give their remains pig excremednt enemas, and bury them with the soles of their feet pointing toward Mecca.
10 posted on 04/16/2004 10:35:06 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: AngieGOP
What are they waiting for?

They're all worried about "the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people," as usual.

11 posted on 04/16/2004 10:35:27 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Welcome to the Fallujah glass mining fields.
12 posted on 04/16/2004 10:35:58 AM PDT by armymarinemom (Bring Them Home Now.org--The Few, The Loud, The Latrine)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
You can't negotiate with these people; anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool. The only option is to destroy them. Waiting only emboldens them.
13 posted on 04/16/2004 10:36:46 AM PDT by mgstarr
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Oh, Crap!

14 posted on 04/16/2004 10:37:05 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
Sadr looks like a child molester. Probably is....
15 posted on 04/16/2004 10:38:48 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: libstripper
"subhumans"

I don't like that term. It's more the pity that we're talking about otherwise full-fledged humans caught in the subhuman death loop of Islam and the generally bad socio-polical climate of the Middle East.

That said, I agree that Fallujah should be paved over, ASAP. It is not up to us to "reform" them via our attempts at "understanding" them and achieving "tolerance" of some insipid form. It is high time that they begin to truly "understand" us.
16 posted on 04/16/2004 10:41:52 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Semper Paratus
This one should take care of the rebels, in this life and the next.


17 posted on 04/16/2004 10:42:08 AM PDT by myheroesareDeadandRegistered
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To: myheroesareDeadandRegistered
AAARGGH!! The RED "X" of Destruction!!! Run Away!!
18 posted on 04/16/2004 10:44:00 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Ahh, it's Springtime!

Time to plant some Daisy-cutters!
19 posted on 04/16/2004 10:44:19 AM PDT by aShepard
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Death to all terrorists ~ Bump!

We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists, democrats and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

20 posted on 04/16/2004 10:46:00 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
They should be concerned with separating those merciless killers from their heads and spleens.
21 posted on 04/16/2004 10:46:04 AM PDT by AngieGOP
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To: Argus
Agree. Didn't we learn something from so-call "cease-fire/truces" in Afghanistan? The pond scum is either moving out, waiting on more shipments of arms - above all, regrouping. Ceasefire, my colon.
22 posted on 04/16/2004 10:49:00 AM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; devolve
KILL Moqtada al-Sadr !!

23 posted on 04/16/2004 10:51:14 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
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To: Argus
Dittos ... why isnt there a demand and a deadline attached to these 'discussions'??? the longer we wait, the harder it gets.

24 posted on 04/16/2004 10:52:33 AM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com - I salute our brave fallen.)
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To: Frank_Discussion; myheroesareDeadandRegistered
Here it is:

http://community.webshots.com/s/image11/8/75/62/134787562RDesSs_ph.jpg


25 posted on 04/16/2004 10:53:25 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
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To: MeekOneGOP
...or not.
26 posted on 04/16/2004 10:55:54 AM PDT by Sabretooth (I'm not SabERtooth, Im SabREtooth.)
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To: Sabretooth
I can't see it, either. I must not be worthy...

;-)
27 posted on 04/16/2004 10:57:51 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: OXENinFLA
sic semper raghead
28 posted on 04/16/2004 10:59:09 AM PDT by quark
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To: Gens Primoris
They are mericless killers because they kill our young men and women, shoot hooded contractors; condone homicide bombers; bribe children with money and candy so they too can become homicide bombers....etc. the list goes on. And sorry, fair isn't fair, especially when 3,000 people were killed as a result of 9/11. And yeah these "insurgents" are nothing more that mericiless killers.
30 posted on 04/16/2004 11:25:22 AM PDT by AngieGOP
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Further military action may be necessary in the city of Fallujah,>/i>

Ya THINK?!

31 posted on 04/16/2004 11:26:41 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Gens Primoris
And what country would that be, Newby? Welcome to the forum.

I ask, because my country is America. And we had about 3,000 innocent people slaughtered in two hours because of "freedom fighters" and "brave patriots" like the folks you're weakly attempting to defend.

32 posted on 04/16/2004 11:33:26 AM PDT by Coop (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Gens Primoris
Excuse me, are you not familiar with the word "terrorist"? They want the coalition members dead. All of us. And we should do what? Roll over and wait for another 3,000 innocent Americans to die?
33 posted on 04/16/2004 11:33:35 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Sabretooth; Frank_Discussion; myheroesareDeadandRegistered
Wow. Really ? Mysteries of the 'Net !

Well, it'a a pic of a HUGE falling bomb, with a BIG hog attached, captioned:

"Special Delivery for Fallujah"

haha !

And thanks for your tagline there, SabREtooth. When I didn't see Sabertooth's
trademark pic in the post, I was wondering.


35 posted on 04/16/2004 11:40:57 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
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To: AngieGOP; Coop; Gens Primoris
Gens Primoris is 'nobody by that name' now ...

36 posted on 04/16/2004 11:43:36 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
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To: armymarinemom; Mr. Mojo; mgstarr
Our free press is leaving out quite a few facts these days, about our enemies, about Fallujah, and about our awesome Marines (who are nobody's "sitting ducks" - as you all know):

"Yesterday in Al Kharma, near Fallujah, a significant number of anti-Iraqi forces assaulted defensive Marine positions close to a residential neighborhood. Marines repelled the assault, with lethal, accurate fire. When the fighting ended, residents came outside and told the Marines that the fighters had moved into their homes recently, virtually holding them hostage. The residents were able to then move about freely in their own neighborhood and beyond." ~ CJTF-7, April 15, 2004 
 

37 posted on 04/16/2004 11:49:28 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("He spares nothing to get to his Marines..They love him." re the command Chaplain in Fallujah,Ramadi)
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To: Argus
8 General: Marines Not Hampered by Rules of Engagement ~ DoD-AFPS | 4/16/04 | Kathleen T. Rhem
38 posted on 04/16/2004 11:52:28 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("He spares nothing to get to his Marines..They love him." re the command Chaplain in Fallujah,Ramadi)
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To: AngieGOP
I think we are waiting for the snow to melt.
39 posted on 04/16/2004 11:53:41 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Let your light so shine before men....)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
What are we waiting for? Clean Fallujah out. These Islamofascists always will break their own promises wrt ceasefires and truces when it's in their interest to do so, so any such 'agreement' with them is worthless.
40 posted on 04/16/2004 12:05:14 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Post Toasties
REmember Afghanistan when they'd "surrender" and then come out guns a'blazing? I expect they'll pull those old tactics out of the Taliban playbook. Sheeesh. I haven't seen those tactics since I was a kid playing Cowboys and Indians.
41 posted on 04/16/2004 12:42:17 PM PDT by johnb838 ("I really don't care; they're all gonna die," US Marine in Fallujah)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
42 posted on 04/16/2004 12:49:19 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
What on earth are our leaders waiting for, does it seem that it takes forever to respond to the evil islamists - or is it a matter of politically correct timing? Give it to the murderers now, and stabilize the area, for the sake of the Iraqi people that suffered such atrocities and the lives of our troops that were shed (not in vain).
43 posted on 04/16/2004 2:03:49 PM PDT by Hila
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; Travis McGee; Squantos; Lurker; joanie-f; Dukie; logos; Chapita; Grampa Dave; ...
"We'll have to see how they play out. They can't go on, I don't think in my mind as a military man, forever," he said. "At some point, somebody has to make a decision on what we're going to do, and we certainly can't rule out the use of force there, again, depending on how the negotiations go."

I am ashamed to see our military personnel hamstrung in this fashion...and being subject to continued sniper fire and potshots as they try and deal with ruthless terorist and insurgent animals and their lairs.

I have said it before and will do so again now...the solution to the type of atrocity and resistence that Fallujah and other places in Iraq have bread, as small a minority as they are, is direct and brutal for the combatants and those providing them sanctuary and support.

To whit:

Pull our troops back to the perimeter. Inform the inhabitants and fighters that negotiations are over and that they have 24 hours to evacuate any male under the age of 13 and over the age of 65 and woman and children. Inform them that any who are held against their will or who elect to remain will be on the heads of the insuyrgants and tell them this up front...no bones about it, no further negotiations.

Process those electing to leave out of the city through our checkpoints looking for any known insurgents. Hold any of those who are armed or trying to escape for indefinite internment and intense interrogation.

Offer the same 24 hour period to any male between 13 and 64 who wants to surrender and direct them to a different location. Those showing up there without weapons are subject to indefinite internment and intense interrogation. Armed insurgents are killed on site.

After 24 hours, use MOAB and ARLITE bombing to level the entire place. Then send in one hundred D-9 Cats to level the place out with enough dirt and top soil to effectively bury the dead. Salt the ground and soak it with swine fat and place a sign there in the middle of what is left that reads.


"Here stood Fallujah and its insurgents until they committed atrocities against the United States of America and the Coalition Authority.

Now there remains nothing but pig fat and salt.

To all those who elected to escape we say...De Oppresso Liber. To all those who chose to fight we say...Sic Simper Tyranus".
IMHO, at this juncture, this is all the miltant Islamics will understand...anything short of this will be viewed as weakness and subject us to continued and increased attacks.

Jeff

44 posted on 04/16/2004 4:33:18 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Military Force May Be Next Option in Fallujah

DUH. Okay, flame me, but I foolishly thought THAT was the only option.

45 posted on 04/16/2004 4:37:10 PM PDT by madison10 (Proud member of RAM since 1978.)
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To: OXENinFLA
Re the pic you posted on #14;

It's great when ya get 'em to line up like that; one well-placed 7.62 X 51 MM FMJ would take out both o' the nasty buggers!

Of course, I'd rather prefer to see it done with a Hellfire missle, of course...

...Or a MOAB... }B^{D~

Time for a little black "Turban Tossin'" over there, wouldn't you say?
46 posted on 04/16/2004 6:40:18 PM PDT by Uncle Jaque ("Scots; WaeHae Where Wallace Bled; Scots Wham Bruce Hae Aften Led;... ")
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To: Jeff Head
Man, do I wish you were making the decisions, Jeff.

I would like someone to tell us when in the history of humankind anyone has ‘negotiated’ with such barbarians and wound up with a result other than having one’s own hands tied for a period of time, until the barbarians have regrouped and hit even harder. (Ask any Russian over the age of sixty what the results of their Nazi-Soviet non-aggression pact ‘negotiations’ with Hitler were; or ask anyone with half a brain to name the peace accords that have been signed with Arafat/the ‘Palestinians’ that have resulted in anything but further atrocities being committed against Israel … ).

Every time I hear these cretins called ‘insurgents’ my blood boils. An ‘insurgent,' by definition, is a generally non-belligerent ‘rebel’ whose non-violent actions simply defy a ruling political party/government. These savages are way beyond insurgency. Yet the media have decided to label them as such, and way too many people are picking up on their purposefully mild description of these sub-human monsters.

(Note: These are the same media that are appalled when our Marines close down an Iraqi newspaper that is calling for ‘death to the American pigs’ – because a ‘legitimate’ journalism outlet has been denied its ‘rights of free speech’.)

No insurgent tortures, burns, and mutilates innocent people, and then hangs their decapitated, broken bodies in public while dancing in celebration. That is pure, vile malevolence. No insurgent kidnaps innocent people, and then releases some, tortures others, and brutally murders others, seemingly at random. No insurgent holds knives to the throats of kidnapped missionaries and women, and threatens to burn them alive if conditions are not met.

Barbarians do not (ever) honor peace/ceasefire agreements. They simply use them to their strategic advantage.

We have it within our power to see to it that not one more Marine is killed in Fallujah. We have it within our power to see to it that our supply lines (both military, and those sustaining the Iraqi people) remain uncompromised. And I have yet to hear a better plan to accomplish those necessary goals than yours, Jeff. It’s quick. It’s decisive. And its success is a virtual certainty.

It’s time to stop prosecuting this war with one hand tied behind our back (we employed that particularly masochistic brand of military strategy forty years ago and we’re still suffering the consequences). We’re paying the price for the current insanity with the lives of our men – one, two, three or more a day. And we’re voluntarily tying that hand behind our back for two insane reasons:

(1) We’re afraid of rubbing world opinion the wrong way. We don’t want the ‘cowboy’ Bush adjective resurrected any more than it needs to be (and would ‘jingoism’ be far behind?) Nor do we want human rights groups barking all manner of charges at us.

(2) We’re afraid of giving the domestic screamers, whiners and hand-wringers any more ammunition with which to tar and feather this President and his military advisers. The Ted Kennedys and John Kerrys of this republic would be portraying our military men and women as cold-blooded murderers, and the barbarians who defiantly refused to leave Fallujah during your twenty-four hour grace period as victims of Bush’s unnecessary brutality (and, make no mistake, Halliburton will somehow share complicity, too :).

The screamers and whiners (especially those whose political ideology invariably trumps their concern for the safety of our troops) aren’t fit to shine the shoes of the average American or coalition soldier. So let both the world and domestic screamers scream. They’re doing it anyway. Why not give them good reason, and save several hundred American/coalition military and/or civilian contractor lives in the process.

Your MOAB and ARLITE bombing is exactly what is needed. It’s time for a no-holds-barred retaliation. Self-defense is a basic human right. And the time to be concerned with collateral damage in Fallujah is long past. Evacuate the innocents. Give the barbarians a day to surrender, and then commence leveling.

The only (tiny) change I would make to your brilliant strategy is that I would have the first part of the aftermath sign read:

Here stood Fallujah and the barbarians who once took refuge within. May the ghostly presence of those who committed atrocities against the United States of America and the Coalition Authority serve as a warning to others who would consider following their example.

Thank you, Jeff.

~ joanie

47 posted on 04/16/2004 9:56:55 PM PDT by joanie-f (All that we know and love depends on three simple things: sunlight, soil, and the fact that it rains)
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To: joanie-f; Jeff Head
Kudos for two excellent posts!!!
48 posted on 04/16/2004 10:36:55 PM PDT by SiliconValleyGuy
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To: Jeff Head
After 24 hours, use MOAB and ARLITE bombing to level the entire place. Then send in one hundred D-9 Cats to level the place out with enough dirt and top soil to effectively bury the dead. Salt the ground and soak it with swine fat and place a sign there in the middle of what is left that reads.

I'll vote for that. So would anyone else who values American soldier's lives and Iraq's freedom.

49 posted on 04/17/2004 6:47:14 AM PDT by Minuteman23
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To: joanie-f
It’s time to stop prosecuting this war with one hand tied behind our back (we employed that particularly masochistic brand of military strategy forty years ago and we’re still suffering the consequences). We’re paying the price for the current insanity with the lives of our men – one, two, three or more a day. And we’re voluntarily tying that hand behind our back for two insane reasons:

(1) We’re afraid of rubbing world opinion the wrong way. We don’t want the ‘cowboy’ Bush adjective resurrected any more than it needs to be (and would ‘jingoism’ be far behind?) Nor do we want human rights groups barking all manner of charges at us.

(2) We’re afraid of giving the domestic screamers, whiners and hand-wringers any more ammunition with which to tar and feather this President and his military advisers. The Ted Kennedys and John Kerrys of this republic would be portraying our military men and women as cold-blooded murderers, and the barbarians who defiantly refused to leave Fallujah during your twenty-four hour grace period as victims of Bush’s unnecessary brutality (and, make no mistake, Halliburton will somehow share complicity, too :).

Exactly right!

50 posted on 04/17/2004 6:50:17 AM PDT by Minuteman23
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