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Big comet plunging toward our Sun
Spaceweather.com ^ | 4-16-04 | Orlando

Posted on 04/16/2004 1:17:04 PM PDT by Orlando

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To: Orlando
That's cool, ya just gotta scroll really fast.
161 posted on 04/19/2004 5:13:45 PM PDT by OXENinFLA (I hope every one caught the end of BRIT HUME'S show w/ CHAPPLE.)
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To: Orlando
What is causing all these BIG comets coming -in ?

Here's what we do know...

Our Solar System porpoises up and down as it transits the Universe.

We are presently 8+ Degree's above the dense central plain of the galaxy.
Our Sun has been inside a *Spiral Arm of Orion for some time..we are now poised just above the inner edge of that spiral arm.
Our Sun has penetatrated the remains of an old,disintergrating *Giant Molecular Cloud..ie..*Star Forming region.

The young Blue Stars of the *Gould belt are witness to the youth and activity of the region..which our Sun has passed thru for..some mark Millions of years for this transit.

Anyhoo...Having passed thru boundry zones...ie..Spiral Arm of Orion..and the afterbirth material of the new Stars of the Gould belt posits that we are in an active *Bombardment phase..and will see more comets..of long duration..unrecorded by man.
If something **Big..Like Clube/Napiers Super which broke up and became the Taurid meteor complex appears....we are in trouble.

Passing thru boundry zones generates tidal stress..which breaks orbitors out of lock.....they then migrate in toward our Sun over vast swaths of time.

162 posted on 04/19/2004 6:51:27 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: abner
So, if this comets tail has some fun with the earth, what will happen?

Difficult to say ..exactly.
I imagine the usual...the Earths climate will be effected.
The Earth will pass thru more Ion and Proton flow from the Sun...we will draw a certain amount to ourselves by interface.
The Sun may cycle up and throw off Plasma's.
So ya..where we are in relation to direction of Plasma burts.

We have had several comets in the last 10 yrs...and now our weather is changing.
This all effects the Earths magnetic field.
Scientists are still coping the data..it seems that region H'S..OR High Pressure syStems which lurk in ceratin locals of the earth..are moving..and causing havoc with the weather.
THe Highs are percieved to be linked to the earths mag field.

H's can cause drought sequencing..or massive rainfall and scalable speed storms over land and water.

Scientists using computer regression sims discovered an important H..High that sits off England...in past history this High moved over to ..and sat on North America.
The result was catastrophic drought..it ended the cultures of the Anasazi and central American cultural dynastys..which collapsed..went fuedal and scattered to the four winds.

This H that sits of England has moved dramatically toward Europe in past years..and just hammered it with severe weather.
[Yes I know.."Why can't it just stay near France" : )

163 posted on 04/19/2004 7:21:25 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Truth666
I'm not the brightest star in the sky, so could you explain the simulation. To me it looks like three comets headed towards the sun. Is that the case, and if so are they as big as the one described in this thread?
164 posted on 04/19/2004 7:28:01 PM PDT by TBall
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To: theFIRMbss
Laugh-a while you can, monkeyboy!
165 posted on 04/20/2004 4:50:13 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Light Speed
Anyone that thinks a comet with a dia of 10,000k is in our inner solar system is crazy. 10,000k is a planet not a comet. Maybe 10,000k head to tail, which is not impressive concidering how close to the sun or comet is.

Passing thru the tail of such a comet should cause a very nice light show. Most likely nothing very big in the comets tail.

166 posted on 04/20/2004 7:50:05 AM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: Light Speed
[Yes I know.."Why can't it just stay near France" : )

Actually, I was just going to say, "WE'RE DOOMED!!!"

167 posted on 04/20/2004 7:58:25 AM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: TBall
Who can tell ?
168 posted on 04/20/2004 8:27:48 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: jpsb
This article from Electric Universe forwards the new idents which science is learning/debating concerning comet behaviour.

Comet Borrelly rocks core scientific beliefs

Other articles on comets at Electric Universe for those interested.

Several comets which transited in in the past decade ..*Outgassed from the Electrical activity occuring in them.
Marsden noted that Comet Halley was throwing off outgassing volumes ..equivilent energy of the Space shuttle at lift off ..for days and months.

This changes the comets orbital track..requiring recalcualtion to margin its next return parameters.

Electric Universe has been a great learning/resource centre for me..
Forward info links...let others run with it.

Speaking of Comets tails...
Venus's Plasma sheath still stretches out to the Earths AU distance from the Sun.
Immanuel Velikovsky comments that Venus's Plasma sheath *Glowed in history..was clearly seen by the inhabitiants of the Earth..was a stupendous prodigy in the sky.
The Glowing Plasma sheath looked like *2 Horns from the viewers perspective.
Velikovsky noted the sudden imergence of Bull and Cow worship in many cultures...the Horns of Venus..the Horns of the Bull and Cow.

Wether this occured from Venus's AU distance static..or that Venus's had recently ..*Pulled in from Transit into orbital lock and resonance is anyones guess.

It makes for fascinating study : )

169 posted on 04/20/2004 8:59:36 AM PDT by Light Speed
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To: jpsb
It's too bad we only got one news report from Australia and Bill Bradfield regarding estimated size, there's been nana
(nothing) from any other news agencies. I don't know why?

On April 24th (Sat) we will be able to see Comet F4 (Bradfield) and Comet C/2002 T7 (Linear) in the Northern
night/pre-dawn skys (@6am,est?) due East, here's the sky map provided by spaceweather:


http://www.spaceweather.com/images2004/24apr04/skymap_north.gif


Both Comets will be side by side, F4 is moving away, BUT
T7 is the one to watch and learn about. This will be our
first opportunity to see them both, so get out those old/new telescopes and let's see them for ourselfs.

10,000 KM is kind of Big ! I wonder what T7 looks like compare to F4 ???


http://syzygyjob.net/phenomena/messages/55160.shtml

helpful tool.
170 posted on 04/20/2004 10:13:15 AM PDT by Orlando (www.mensnewsdaily.com, www.mensactivism.org (Support Fathers/Veteran Rights)
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To: Orlando
I need to get my 8 inch mirror recoated, but my 4 inch refractor will be looking.
171 posted on 04/20/2004 10:40:13 AM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: jpsb; All
Here's a little 101 on Comet C/2002 T7 (LINEAR), it's Blue in color .


http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040209.html


WOW !
172 posted on 04/20/2004 11:03:39 AM PDT by Orlando (www.mensnewsdaily.com, www.mensactivism.org (Support Fathers/Veteran Rights)
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To: jpsb; Orlando
Hale Bopp



173 posted on 04/20/2004 11:15:53 AM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Orlando; Light Speed
Thanks!
174 posted on 04/20/2004 1:16:24 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: Truth666
Keep this in mind
175 posted on 04/20/2004 2:31:31 PM PDT by Truth666
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To: Light Speed
Light_Speed , check-out the real path of C/2002 T7(LINEAR)
on May 17th.


http://impact.arc.nasa.gov

go to "Orbit Diagrams",Search: then type in Comet C/2002 T7 (Linear) , it provides a 3D visualization tool
hmmm ? any comments
176 posted on 04/20/2004 5:39:50 PM PDT by Orlando (www.mensnewsdaily.com, www.mensactivism.org (Support Fathers/Veteran Rights)
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To: Orlando
NASA NEO mission then it gets you into Orbit Diagram link
177 posted on 04/20/2004 5:42:02 PM PDT by Orlando (www.mensnewsdaily.com, www.mensactivism.org (Support Fathers/Veteran Rights)
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To: Orlando
the sun will kick that comet's butt.
178 posted on 04/20/2004 5:46:55 PM PDT by isom35
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To: Orlando

Info drag from C&MS;

The first published orbit came on 2002 October 29. B. G. Marsden (Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams) took 88 positions spanning the period of October 12 to 29, and calculated a parabolic orbit with a perihelion date of 2004 April 23.69. Ultimately, the comet proved to be moving in a hyperbolic orbit, with a perihelion date of April 23.08.

Predictions 2004

Hyperbolic orbit...cool!!

Thanks for the 3d viewer/data link....again..cool!

Comments:
like Marsdens concerns for all cometary crossings...whats the outgassing doing to the comets orbital tack..and whats the new figures and dates.

The extremely close perihelion distances (100 to 400 thousand miles from the sun's surface) have prompted the theory that Kreutz sungrazers originated with one large parent comet.

Interesting..Comet 2002V1 NEAT was 0.0999 AU...Comet 2002 T7 Linear is 0.8 AU window.

Have to bone up on how many other AU 0.8 to 0.9 comets have appeared in last decades..if there is a possible hint that they reflect the Sungrazer format....and are from a super breaking up.

179 posted on 04/20/2004 7:34:05 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Orlando
Run C/2001 q4(NEAT) on the ani.

Perihelion: 2004 May 15
Maximum magnitude about 1-2

180 posted on 04/20/2004 8:45:12 PM PDT by Light Speed
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