Kristol's warning that the neocons could break with the Right and go to Kerry is an admission of what many conservatives have long argued. To neocons, Israel comes first, second and third, conservative principles be damned.
In light of Kristol's open threat, can they still say this is just "antisemitism"?
posted on 04/26/2004 6:19:10 PM PDT
Kristol is in a category all his own.
It is called "weasel."
Bill Kristol is the right wing version of John Kerry, neither of them have a spine
posted on 04/26/2004 6:29:35 PM PDT
(On Paper, John Kerry is the Perfect Candidate, His Record Shows he's Been all Things to all People)
by fabricating alibis and inventing excuses to absolve themselves of culpability for what they labored to create, they have revealed themselves for what they are: hustlers and opportunists devoid of principle, driven by an ideology of power and a passionate attachment to a nation not their own.
Could easily apply to liberals. I have no liking for either Kristol or Buchanan.
posted on 04/26/2004 6:31:52 PM PDT
(Resign and testify you feckless, duplicitous, devious traitor. Yes, Jamie, I mean you!)
I usually agree with Kristol's analysis. I certainly agree that Powell needs to go, but am a huge fan of Rumsfeld.
I also agree that Syria & Iran need to be targeted next and I suspect if Bush wins the election that is exactly what we'll see in the next few years.
As far as Buchanan goes...he's in a world of his own & one I'd rather not inhabit.
If Buchanan's name is in the byline, you can rest assured that Israel will be mentioned. It never fails.
Anyway, Kristol is a loon. I am not sure who takes him seriously.
A.K.A. Sleepy Brown
posted on 04/26/2004 6:38:25 PM PDT
(Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these.)
with America and Israel on one side and Islam on the other.
Buchanan has stated the obvious. What he failed to elaborate on was that America and Israel are attempting to rid the world of terrorism, the only way possible, capturing and killing terrorists one at a time. Islam on the other hand nutures the terrorists who are more intent in killing the innocents than they are any combatants. A hissing match between Buchanan and Kristol serves no favorable purpose other than to illustrate that the Republican is a bigger tent than many would believe, although it is unclear what if any party presently would claim Buchanan. Personally, I feel they deserve each other, and it is somewhat comforting to see treachery turned on itself in the form of these two personages.
Sometimes I wish that Kristol was part of some neo-con kabal, because then at least he wouldn't be bashing Bush every time he's on Fox lately.
posted on 04/26/2004 6:48:48 PM PDT
(If 9/11 didn't change you, you're a bad human being)
"Agree or disagree with the defense secretary, Rumsfeld has been a lion in the neocon cause. To see the Weekly Standard snake on him like this brings to mind that wretched crowd in Yankee Stadium that took to booing Joe DiMaggio at the end of his career."
First, I'm still not entirely sure what a "neocon" is. I've read over Irving Kristol's article about the term and it's meaning, but to me his explanation is about as clear as Clinton's conscience. Second, if a neocon can be largely identified as someone who is fixated on Isreal to the point of being irrational about a lot of other things, then I'd have to disagree with the idea that Rumsfeld is a neocon hero. To me, Rumsfeld is a perfectly rational and Conservative guy.
I haven't been following the Weekly Standard, and I must admit that I know little about William Kristol. However, this depiction of the senior Kristol really surprises me. I saw him doing an interview in 1997 on CSPAN and there wasn't anything liberal about him.
posted on 04/26/2004 7:01:37 PM PDT
Special interest groups always cheer-lead where the power is.If Kerry wins,democrat forums will be full of pro-war/spread-democracy threads and conservative forums will go back to being anti-war,anti-government,Waco/Ruby Ridge-ists like they were 5 years ago.
While currently the left are seen as terrorist sympathizers,pre-9/11 the right was firmly viewed as being the (domestic)terrorism-apologists.An election will quickly swing things back to the way they were and sort the real conservatives from the bandwagon jumpers.
Could anyone have imagined 5 years ago that 'militia' would be a dirty word in conservative circles?
posted on 04/26/2004 7:55:14 PM PDT
The Weekly Standard editor added that the neoconservatives may just abandon the Right altogether and convert to neoliberalism.
This entire piece sounds like some SNL skit script!
posted on 04/30/2004 9:25:50 AM PDT
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