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Did Hillary reveal who leaked report in her questioning of Rumsfeld today?
Senate Armed Services Committee ^ | 5/7/04 | Senate Armed Services committee

Posted on 05/07/2004 8:41:35 PM PDT by abner

In today's testimony before the Armed Services Committee Hillary Clinton may have revealed the source of the leak of the report. Please have a look at the relevant snippets of the transcript from today.

I guess my theory is this: If she isn't behind the leak, she knows exactly who is.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hillary; hillaryknew; iraqipow; leaker; rumsfeld; sasc; sieve; turass
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To: abner
FYI Hillary questioning began around posting 2064 in the LIVE THREAD

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1131364/posts?page=2064#2064
101 posted on 05/07/2004 9:36:13 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: nopardons
Bush must wish now that he had cleaned house when he came into office. I wondered why he kept any of Clinton's people around!
102 posted on 05/07/2004 9:36:44 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Angelwood
And don't think for a minute that CBS wasn't part and parcel of the entire coterie.

Timing seems very suspect.

1. Gets our attention off of the Gorelick/Reno/Clinton issues on the 9/11 Commission.

2. Puts all the DEM Bush, Rumsfield, Ashcroft haters in seventh heaven.

3. Gives thunder thighs National Exposure to the American public.

Wonder if Hillary or any of her friends at the Pentagon ever had contact with the perps in the Military. Need to follow the money trail of those who are involved in this fiasco.
103 posted on 05/07/2004 9:37:33 PM PDT by not2worry
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To: Mo1
Well if you want some fun, put "leaked memo Democrats" into a google search. You get some 11,000 hits!

And this one from FNC website, Nov 5, 2003:

"Among other things, the memo recommends that Democrats "prepare to launch an investigation when it becomes clear we have exhausted the opportunity to usefully collaborate with the [Senate] majority. We can pull the trigger on an independent investigation of the administration's use of intelligence at any time — but we can only do so once ... the best time would probably be next year."

The last paragraph of the memo reads, "Intelligence issues are clearly secondary to the public's concern regarding the insurgency in Iraq."

104 posted on 05/07/2004 9:37:45 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: hole_n_one
Clinton was referring to the report. From her take, the report was everywhere for anyone who wanted to read.

105 posted on 05/07/2004 9:37:49 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: A Citizen Reporter; abner
The title of this thread reads......

Did Hillary reveal who leaked report in her questioning of Rumsfeld today?

I thought that it was the "pictures" that were leaked?

106 posted on 05/07/2004 9:39:40 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one
Is the issue here Clinton's knowledge of the pictures, the Taguba report or both?

Both I believe because this RAW report was the first time it had the pictures with it

Somehow CBS received it before the Pentagon

and the first time Rummy and the Generals read that report was on Monday

107 posted on 05/07/2004 9:39:50 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: abner
It jumps out at everyone! I can't believe how clumsy she was with this.
108 posted on 05/07/2004 9:40:11 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: dead
You say the report was well known. I don't know how you know that. All I know is when it made the public, when somebody took a secret document out of prosecutorial channels and released it to the press, I do not believe it was yet anywhere in the Pentagon.

Read between the lines, I read, "Hmm, now you gave me a pretty clear idea on who might have leaked the report. I will then make him/her sing like the Bronx Opera House. After that, the DOJ will open a criminal investigation into how you received and held stolen federal property and possibly intervened in a criminal matter. We'll be nice guys and not invoke Patriot, which this stupidity--if we've totally got our panties in knot over it--can be used to beat you with like a red-headed stepchild. You may want to consult your attorneys, Elenaor Roosevelt or whichever manifestation of Gaia you supposedly worshipped for guidance and help because the rules of the Senate may not protect you."

109 posted on 05/07/2004 9:40:27 PM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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To: pinz-n-needlez
My guess...on how this all became public in the first place...is that the investigtors had to move files (text and images) around by email. Its very likely that some Army moron or some contractor sitting at the LAN help desk...was browsing through incoming traffic to an organization and saw some bulky files. They open them up...read through...and realize the whole story. Its of tremendous value. They call a friend to discuss how to "advertise" these. They find a couple of major news organizations....CNN, CBS, foreign services, etc. You simply show one photo and the news folks are ready to wave $20k for the whole group of photos. You sell these very quickly. You walk away. It'll be impossible for Rummy to track down the leak here if the LAN administrator was doing it. And the bottom line is that they should have moved the traffic via classified means and it would have been more protected.
110 posted on 05/07/2004 9:40:43 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: noodler; campfollower
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JOHN KERRY = Enemy of Vietnam Vets

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?=1320


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111 posted on 05/07/2004 9:41:12 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: hole_n_one
The report was leaked, and so were the photos. Clinton was talking about the report specifically though today.

The photos can't be far behind though.
112 posted on 05/07/2004 9:41:35 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
The last paragraph of the memo reads, "Intelligence issues are clearly secondary to the public's concern regarding the insurgency in Iraq."

I remember being ticked off when I read that when it first came out

113 posted on 05/07/2004 9:41:45 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: abner
Tin Foil Alert!!!!!

I just thought of something.....

Remember back to last November, around Thanksgiving. Who, besides President Bush made a trip to Iraq (after she left Afghanistan)? These allegations started around October and November, got reported by the Brass in January and March. Could a certain person's trip have been more than just a 'listening' tour?

114 posted on 05/07/2004 9:42:22 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: Mo1
In today's WSJ?
115 posted on 05/07/2004 9:43:07 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: lavrenti
how are we going to find out who leaked it? this only goes anywhere if an actual person is attached to it. to just say "it was leaked" is not going to be a story.
116 posted on 05/07/2004 9:43:24 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Mo1
Myers was very clear (except in the one instance I cited) in drawing a clear distinction between the report that was released and the pictures.
117 posted on 05/07/2004 9:43:30 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: TomGuy
Oh boy Tom. . . . Even I wouldn't go that far. :-) LOL!

I wouldn't put it past her though.
118 posted on 05/07/2004 9:43:47 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: pinz-n-needlez
In other words, Hillary intimidated and threatened another Senator to get that seat.

And did it, no doubt, to beef up her resume in her run for the Presidency.

Well, it's the only way the old battle-axe could get at least some military "credentials." Hey, it's not like she went to Vietnam and scammed some medals for superficial scrapes and scratches...

119 posted on 05/07/2004 9:44:16 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: nopardons
In today's WSJ?

No .. that was back in Nov '03

120 posted on 05/07/2004 9:44:59 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Mo1
Rumsfeld said several times that the leaking of the pictures (whoever leaked them) was illegal. So, apparently, they were considered classified.
121 posted on 05/07/2004 9:45:11 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
As Hillary! would say: "Like, y'know...uh, I ... y'know... got myself exposed a little in this matter, like, y'know."

She's never the sharpest tool in the box. Today proved it.
122 posted on 05/07/2004 9:45:28 PM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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To: oceanview
how are we going to find out who leaked it? this only goes anywhere if an actual person is attached to it. to just say "it was leaked" is not going to be a story.

I don't know. I do know that she should be asked about her statements though. It's the seriousness of the charge that matters here. ;-)

123 posted on 05/07/2004 9:45:54 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: hole_n_one
I thought they were both leaked, but separately. Seymour Hersch got a copy of the Taguba Report, which is about an ongoing criminal investigation.

CBS got the pictures, before the Generals and Rummy ever saw them.

Sounds like whoever passed these two items on chose carefully in deciding to whom to give them, and how to break them so they do the most damage.

The Taguba report didn't even include the photos, they were deemed so sensitive, according the Hersch article, so they had to be gotten from deeper in the investigation.

Oh man, Hillary stepped in this one but good! (/maniacal laughter)

Pinz
124 posted on 05/07/2004 9:46:19 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Wil H
and by dang we'll all pay for it. They'll work this war into a tragedy and run on it.Like most every incident.
125 posted on 05/07/2004 9:46:48 PM PDT by noodler
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To: hole_n_one
Myers was very clear (except in the one instance I cited) in drawing a clear distinction between the report that was released and the pictures

I taped the hearing, so I'll have to watch it again .. I'm started to get confused

126 posted on 05/07/2004 9:47:27 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Bought a super-8 and reenacted favorite moments and had to beg Reagan's Navy Sec. to upgrade one.

I loved how Rumsfeld scared her. She probably hasn't been that intimidated by a man since her mean Daddy tossed softballs at her in Grant Park all those years ago.
127 posted on 05/07/2004 9:47:55 PM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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To: pinz-n-needlez
I just don't see the mainstream media going anywhere with this angle. Talk radio will, but no one else will touch it.
128 posted on 05/07/2004 9:48:11 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: abner
There are far too many Clinton leftovers!

President Bush had best get rid of them ALL...in his next term.

129 posted on 05/07/2004 9:48:24 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: abner
Even I wouldn't go that far.

Yeh, and you wouldn't go for a stroll with her in Fort Marcy Park either, would you.

lol.
130 posted on 05/07/2004 9:48:37 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: lavrenti
But she's the Smartest Woman in the World™! And wasn't she wearing her glasses today? (I admit that when her turn to screech came up, I hit Mute and listened to my brand new Prince CD. OK, feel free to mock me!)
131 posted on 05/07/2004 9:48:38 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: lavrenti
Hilliary will not have the slightest memory of seeing that report by tomorrow. "I just can't remember--it is just a foggy area that I don't recall"
tbird1
132 posted on 05/07/2004 9:48:59 PM PDT by tbird1
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To: TomGuy
So, apparently, they were considered classified,

As was the report .. maybe that is where I'm getting confused at

133 posted on 05/07/2004 9:49:00 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: hole_n_one
You make a good point, and I'm not sure I can answer. Clinton referred to the Tuguba report, and to be honest today was the first time that I'd heard of it. She said it was a well known report. (a link on this thread earlier had Seymour Hersch as the one who broke the story on Tuguba, on 4/30, but I have no idea if that is right or not.) Rummy challenged her on the "well known report".

Having watched many hours of the hearings today, my take is: the story is in the pictures and how they got distributed. I hope we will eventually know.

134 posted on 05/07/2004 9:49:03 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: nopardons
There are far too many Clinton leftovers!

Yes. Way too many.

135 posted on 05/07/2004 9:49:12 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
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Please see Posts No. 69, 73 and 92
about HILLARY on this Thread...

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136 posted on 05/07/2004 9:49:55 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: TomGuy
Yeh, and you wouldn't go for a stroll with her in Fort Marcy Park either, would you

Heh, heh... No, I wouldn't.

137 posted on 05/07/2004 9:50:02 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
lol

Remember, she tried? But the Marines said her eyes were too bad, or was it that she was a girl? Maybe it was just that they didn't have any boots to fit her ankles.

I need to call it a night or I'm going to start making irresponsible comments. =:-0

Pinz
138 posted on 05/07/2004 9:50:10 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: lavrenti
She probably hasn't been that intimidated by a man since her mean Daddy tossed softballs at her in Grant Park all those years ago.

Well, considering that she intimidates most men, that was something else. ;)

Hey, my dad used to toss softballs at me! Was that wrong?!

139 posted on 05/07/2004 9:50:55 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: TheLion
I don't know why he kept them on,other than the fact that he had far less time to prepare to take over,due to the algore/election mess.

We need to send him brooms,after his next Inauguration.

140 posted on 05/07/2004 9:51:03 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Mo1
The report AND the photos were classified because it IS an ongoing investigation.
141 posted on 05/07/2004 9:51:40 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: pinz-n-needlez
Remember, she tried? But the Marines said her eyes were too bad, or was it that she was a girl? Maybe it was just that they didn't have any boots to fit her ankles.

Assuming that really happened...

I need to call it a night or I'm going to start making irresponsible comments. =:-0

Noooo! That's when the fun *really* starts! ;) Oh well, good night!

142 posted on 05/07/2004 9:51:47 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: oceanview
I just don't see the mainstream media going anywhere with this angle. Talk radio will, but no one else will touch it.

That should be enough. Let Rush, Boortz, and Hannity run with it. Then see what happens.


A.K.A. Sleepy Brown

143 posted on 05/07/2004 9:51:57 PM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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To: Mo1
I just reread the entire Dayton/Myers exchange and as best as I can tell, when Dayton refers to the report, he's referring to the 60 MIN. II story, Myers is referring to both the 60 MIN. II story and some other report.....

I've got a headache.

144 posted on 05/07/2004 9:52:48 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
why would one of the prisoners have "Rapist" written on his leg in Englsih? Shouldn't it have been written in Arabic if humiliation was the motive? Like in Vietnam when the monks immolated themselves with the signs in front of them.
Those pictures were for an American audience, not an Arab audience.
145 posted on 05/07/2004 9:53:17 PM PDT by olde north church (Give me the cheerleading pyramid over a plastic shredder everytime.)
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To: Gracey
bump
146 posted on 05/07/2004 9:53:32 PM PDT by Gracey (NOT Fonda Kerry and his 9.10 Democrat Party mentality)
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To: Mo1
Oh,thanks. I wondered how I had missed reading that today. LOL
147 posted on 05/07/2004 9:53:52 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: The Mayor
That's right HILLARY is the issue here -- not the people who brought disgrace to their uniforms and stuck the President in this mess. We have to focus on treasonous HILLARY...not the people who made people get into a sex pyramid or who were responsible for the even worse materials that Sec Rumsfeld warned everyone might come out. He did quite well, actually. But the issue isn't him, or what was done to the prisoners, who in the chain of command knew this was going on. It's HILLARY who should be the focus. If Hillary and Bill Clinton died a lot of folks would have a very empty political agenda. (And I bet in the end HILLARY somehow got word out to the people at the prison to do this so it would discredit the administration.).
148 posted on 05/07/2004 9:54:20 PM PDT by jraven
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To: abner
Soooo .. how would she get her hands on it. Who within the admin would help her by snaching a "secret" document.

By Rumsfeld's statement, I would conclude that he already has a pretty good idea how Hillary got the document. Hopefully, Hillary is too arrogant to catch on.
149 posted on 05/07/2004 9:55:25 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: hole_n_one
I've got a headache

I can relate to that *L*

150 posted on 05/07/2004 9:55:45 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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