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Did Hillary reveal who leaked report in her questioning of Rumsfeld today?
Senate Armed Services Committee ^ | 5/7/04 | Senate Armed Services committee

Posted on 05/07/2004 8:41:35 PM PDT by abner

In today's testimony before the Armed Services Committee Hillary Clinton may have revealed the source of the leak of the report. Please have a look at the relevant snippets of the transcript from today.

I guess my theory is this: If she isn't behind the leak, she knows exactly who is.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hillary; hillaryknew; iraqipow; leaker; rumsfeld; sasc; sieve; turass
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CLINTON: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

-Snip-

The atrocities that have been depicted in photographs were very graphically, verbally, described in the Taguba report. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to read those descriptions and have one's stomach just turn in disgust.

The focus on the pictures being released is, with all due respect, missing the point. The report was well known, and apparently discussed on numerous occasions. And obviously, the release of the pictures to the entire world was devastating.

But the underlying conduct, and the failure of the command, both at the site and further up the chain, to act with the appropriate quick response, is really at the heart of what the most serious problems we face here today are.

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Rummy answers:

RUMSFELD: Well, Senator, first let me say, with respect to the question that Senator Reed raised, I can't conceive of anyone looking at the pictures and suggesting that anyone could have recommended, condoned, permitted, encouraged, subtly, directly, in any way, that those things take place.

Second, the decision that was made by the president of the United States that you referred to was announced. And in the announcement it was said that the Al Qaida in Guantanamo that are captured in the world, mostly in Afghanistan, would be treated consistent with the Geneva Convention. That is a fact.

You say the report was well known. I don't know how you know that. All I know is when it made the public, when somebody took a secret document out of prosecutorial channels and released it to the press, I do not believe it was yet anywhere in the Pentagon. Certainly, I had not been given it or seen it.

I quite agree with you. When you read the report, you do get an impression, as you suggested, that there is something much worse than what was in the press release, for example, in January or the discussion in March by the Central Command.

RUMSFELD: But that was not something that had been moved past the Central Command, to my knowledge. It may have been somewhere in the Department of Defense, but certainly I had not received a copy. It was still in those channels.

WARNER: Thank you very much, Senator.

1 posted on 05/07/2004 8:41:36 PM PDT by abner
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To: maryz; goodnesswins; TomGuy; cyncooper; cake_crumb; A Citizen Reporter; Carolinamom; Howlin
Ping!
2 posted on 05/07/2004 8:42:50 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: abner
"You say the report was well known. I don't know how you know that. All I know is when it made the public, when somebody took a secret document out of prosecutorial channels and released it to the press, I do not believe it was yet anywhere in the Pentagon."

Well...

3 posted on 05/07/2004 8:43:00 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Reactionary
By jove, it jumps out at you too!

4 posted on 05/07/2004 8:44:00 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: abner
nice job, Teri.
5 posted on 05/07/2004 8:44:36 PM PDT by LurkerNoMore!
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To: diotima; Mo1; Interesting Times; Bob J; Nick Danger; Temple Owl; Owl_Eagle; Doctor Raoul; ...
Ping!
6 posted on 05/07/2004 8:45:30 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: ntnychik; devolve; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo
Ping!
7 posted on 05/07/2004 8:46:14 PM PDT by potlatch ( Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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To: Reactionary
Leftover Clintonoids still in the Pentagon. All the slime from the last administration needs to be shitcanned immediately.
8 posted on 05/07/2004 8:46:31 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: AFPhys; prairiebreeze; Miss Marple
AFP - you mentioned you would like to see a separate thread about this matter and another freeper has made one.

Mark for discussion tomorrow.
9 posted on 05/07/2004 8:46:51 PM PDT by Peach
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To: LurkerNoMore!
Thank you dear... I never listen to Hillary but tonight when I was listening to the repeat on C-Span, it was obvious. To be fair, the live thread caught it right away also.
10 posted on 05/07/2004 8:47:02 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: abner
I have to tell you, that when I was listening to the hearing and she said this phrase:

"The focus on the pictures being released is, with all due respect, missing the point."

That's what made me stand up and take notice. She is complicit in the picture release.

11 posted on 05/07/2004 8:47:08 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: A Citizen Reporter; holdonnow
She has her hands totally trapped in the cookie jar.
12 posted on 05/07/2004 8:48:29 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: abner
Aha! You found it at the same time I was posting excerpts on the live thread.

Well, that IS an interesting exchange.
13 posted on 05/07/2004 8:48:46 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: abner
guess my theory is this: If she isn't behind the leak, she knows exactly who is.

If we can find out who that Staffer was that was in this prison and we might find out if she is

14 posted on 05/07/2004 8:49:04 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: abner
This is the story that broke the report first:

TORTURE AT ABU GHRAIB

15 posted on 05/07/2004 8:49:14 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: abner
Thanks for the post, abner. Hillary's moles and leftovers in the Pentagon and elsewhere are hard at work to leak information to her and other democrats in order to undermine the presidency, our troops and, in effect, aid the terrorists who are at war with America. Some DARE call it TREASON!
16 posted on 05/07/2004 8:49:20 PM PDT by Angelwood (FReepers are Everywhere! We Support Our Troops! (Hillary's Vast Rt Wg Conspiracy))
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To: dd5339
Thread to follow.
..not suprising that something this sleazy would have the Clintoon's greasy fingerprints on it.
17 posted on 05/07/2004 8:49:23 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 (Hooah??? HOOOAAHHHH!!!!!)
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To: LurkerNoMore!
Hillary!™, Petard,

Petard, Hillary!™


18 posted on 05/07/2004 8:49:45 PM PDT by null and void (Hoist away! ... kaBOOM!)
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To: abner; TomGuy
She has her hands totally trapped in the cookie jar.

She did look a little pale after the hearing

19 posted on 05/07/2004 8:50:00 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: cyncooper; Tribune7
Rummy's reaction to it was blatant. My guess is that someone is investigating now.
20 posted on 05/07/2004 8:50:16 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: Angelwood
And to think that this is the FIRST time I have ever taken to listen to her ramblings. . . .
21 posted on 05/07/2004 8:51:47 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: abner
Yeah.....

Ahhhhhhhhhhh!
22 posted on 05/07/2004 8:52:05 PM PDT by null and void (Hoist away! ... kaBOOM!)
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To: abner
bump
23 posted on 05/07/2004 8:52:25 PM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance seem to have the least for my views.)
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To: abner
I'm sure this has been covered here previously,but,what is this p.o.s. of a freshman senator doing on this,of all,committees?
24 posted on 05/07/2004 8:53:19 PM PDT by John W
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To: null and void
heheh
25 posted on 05/07/2004 8:54:19 PM PDT by LurkerNoMore!
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To: Morgan's Raider; Howlin
Leftover Clintonoids still in the Pentagon. All the slime from the last administration needs to be shitcanned immediately.

There are some here who have been saying that since January, 2001.

Regards,

TS

26 posted on 05/07/2004 8:54:57 PM PDT by The Shrew (A dollar a day won't cure your addiction to FR but it will make you feel better. Join me!)
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To: abner
Let's hope someone (not her mole) is investigating how she got hold of the report before Rumsfeld. I'd like to know what Hillary knew about the report, when Hillary knew it and how long the democrats have been working on their orchestrated attacks on the administration with regard to the prison photos and investigation.
27 posted on 05/07/2004 8:55:15 PM PDT by Angelwood (FReepers are Everywhere! We Support Our Troops! (Hillary's Vast Rt Wg Conspiracy))
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To: The Shrew
There are some here who have been saying that since January, 2001.

Apparently, we haven't been loud enough.

28 posted on 05/07/2004 8:55:36 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: abner
What did Senator Clinton know, when did she know it, and HOW did she know it?
29 posted on 05/07/2004 8:56:25 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber!)
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To: Angelwood
I'd like to know what Hillary knew about the report, when Hillary knew it and how long the democrats have been working on their orchestrated attacks on the administration with regard to the prison photos and investigation.

Maybe we could ask Jamie Gorelick.

30 posted on 05/07/2004 8:56:32 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: abner
She is such a moron. Really gave herself away with that exchange with Rumsfeld.

Hillary! seriously slipped today and now may become the focus of interest by the Administration. They've played nice with her, despite her deviltry of the past four years, but possibly creating a serious geopolitical crisis for her own reasons and putting soldiers at needless risk is far beyond the pale--two steps past redemption.

Let's see what the Justice Department comes up with regarding her campaign finances.
31 posted on 05/07/2004 8:57:14 PM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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To: Angelwood
I'd like to know what Hillary knew about the report, when Hillary knew it and how long the democrats have been working on their orchestrated attacks on the administration with regard to the prison photos and investigation

Remember memogate .. the memo that Shawn Hannity recieved??

32 posted on 05/07/2004 8:57:47 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: abner
Over at DU they're arguing about why Gore lost!!!!!! Now they're blaming it on Leiberman!!!! Almost four years and they're still debating it. Unbelievable.
33 posted on 05/07/2004 8:58:13 PM PDT by Hildy (...Love like you've never been hurt and live like it's heaven on Earth. - Mark Twain)
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Ping!
34 posted on 05/07/2004 8:58:38 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: Morgan's Raider
As I heard Rumsfeld explain it, this issue was still in the criminal investigation stage, that is not yet delivered to the Pentagon.

It was secret, for the protection of the defendants, just like our Constitution provides.

Hillary and/or her leakers were in violation of the law and the Constitution by passing it along to ANYONE not directly connected to the criminal investigation.

That said, Clinton's left booby traps all over the Executive branch.

Pinz
35 posted on 05/07/2004 8:59:40 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: lavrenti
but possibly creating a serious geopolitical crisis for her own reasons and putting soldiers at needless risk is far beyond the pale--two steps past redemption.

If proven, I would call it treason.

36 posted on 05/07/2004 8:59:47 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: Mo1
She did look a little pale after the hearing

Rumsfeld immediatelypicked up on her reference and was very blunt in his response. Indeed, the entire statement he made is wrapped around the simple principle of "Oh really, how the &^%$ did you know before me?"

I expect an internal investigation has started, and that dumbass in the crusty pants suit just made the focus a whole lot easier. They're going to rip into every Clinton-connected employee like nobody's business now.

It also sounds as if that dingbat didn't get her ducks in a row on this one--she has been inelegant and revealing in the past, but not this freaked out after a misstep such as this.

37 posted on 05/07/2004 9:04:16 PM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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To: Mo1
Remember memogate .. the memo that Shawn Hannity recieved??

I don't remember the specifics. Please refresh my memory.

38 posted on 05/07/2004 9:04:22 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: abner
Thankyou for the post abner.

I wasn't able to hear any of this all day, just excerpts on local news.

This is very interesting, and I love Rummys response.
The dems will do anything to undermine Prez Bush, the Military and this Country.
The battle between Good and Evil, no question in my mind.
kennedy and hitlery should go for a swim.
39 posted on 05/07/2004 9:04:30 PM PDT by The Mayor (A true friend helps you keep going when you feel like giving up.)
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To: abner
Bump!
40 posted on 05/07/2004 9:04:35 PM PDT by MadMoo
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To: Mrs Zip; BOBWADE
ping
41 posted on 05/07/2004 9:05:26 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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To: Mo1
I remember Memogate. Senator Rockefeller, on the Senate Select Intelligence Committee, wrote a memo detailing a plan to selectively declassify and use against President Bush anything potentially embarrassing that they could.

He was called to task by a few others, among them Senator Roberts, head of the committee, and Senator Zell Miller, who said, "If this is not treason, it is a close cousin."

Senator Rockefeller was called on to resign over it. He refused to, and he refused to apologize.

This is war, on the home front. Our best weapon is the truth. Everyone must remember, and everyone MUST know.


42 posted on 05/07/2004 9:06:24 PM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: abner
Maybe we could ask Jamie Gorelick.

Or rather Manuel(?) Miranda. We all know how the Dems hate hypocrisy.

43 posted on 05/07/2004 9:06:38 PM PDT by nevergiveup (We CAN do it!)
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To: The Mayor; Registered; Ms. AntiFeminazi; sauropod; MinuteGal; Libertina
Happy to do anything to get the word out about mrs. clinton.
44 posted on 05/07/2004 9:06:44 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: lavrenti
Thanks for the synopsis,I missed most of what happened this afternoon.

Hang the Hag from her cankles.
45 posted on 05/07/2004 9:07:10 PM PDT by Redcoat LI (What Is Man That Thou Art Mindful of Him)
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To: abner
If it was not in the Pentagon, it was with the DOJ, right?
46 posted on 05/07/2004 9:07:54 PM PDT by ikka
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To: A Citizen Reporter
"The focus on the pictures being released is, with all due respect, missing the point."

Heard it on Rush today. I thought, 'Yes, Hillary, you serpent, let's keep the focus on the subject of the pictures, not what went wrong with internal security to subvert the handling of this matter in a gracious and discreet way. Not what the press is doing with their coordinated, massive attack. Not what the results will be with respect to the safety and confidence of our troops.

No, let's keep the focus on the abuse SO NOBODY MISSES THE RIGHT POINT.

We certainly don't want any 'competing' points to come up.

47 posted on 05/07/2004 9:08:15 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Forget ANWR -- Drill Israel!)
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To: lavrenti
I expect an internal investigation has started, and that dumbass in the crusty pants suit just made the focus a whole lot easier. They're going to rip into every Clinton-connected employee like nobody's business now.

I sure hope so ..

I also want to who the Aid to the Active Member of Congress was that Curt Weldon mentioned today

48 posted on 05/07/2004 9:08:29 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: abner
Not treason, but interfering with a criminal investigation, possible other charges like theft of government property.

Whoever gets busted gets hard time. Hillary! cannot claim senatorial protection if it is discovered she was somehow involved. Felony, baby. Felony.
49 posted on 05/07/2004 9:08:38 PM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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To: abner
I was going to try and go thru the live thread but when I saw 1300+ posts I paused..

I haven't been on line since the am and missed everything.
Probably a good thing, I would have been screaming atthe tv.

Thanks..
50 posted on 05/07/2004 9:09:43 PM PDT by The Mayor (A true friend helps you keep going when you feel like giving up.)
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