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Posted on 05/16/2004 5:50:18 AM PDT by PharmboyEdited on 05/26/2004 5:21:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
May 16, 2004 -- Dr. Atkins' disciples are eating major food companies alive. The low-carb diet trend is turning the stomachs of the makers of traditional staples like bread and pasta, who are blaming their shrinking profits on shrinking waistlines.
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Hey food companies: get with the program--low carb is where it's at.
At least for now.
LOL, that's a true statement.
Pasta Company? I thought it grew on trees. I read it on DU.
JOKING! I'm joking...really!
The low-carb diet fights obesity, which is good.
However, American businesses are hurt by low sales because people who are fat are eating other foods. The sales in those foods, like eggs and meat, have soared, but we forgot to report that.
Therefore, these high-carb company bankruptcies are Bush's fault.
And from the metabolic point of view, carbs are the enemy as they do a lot of bad stuff--like increasing insulin secretion.
The low-fat craze for the past 20 years proved one thing: when you lower fat intake (which we did quite dramatically as a nation during this time) and increase carbs, you get fat.
The solution really isn't rocket science for them.
The problem is, they will need to re-tool and businesses hate to do that if they don't have to.
It's not cheap--good quality proteins and fresh green veggies are expensive.
I read of incidents at feedlots like "Ryan's" restaurants refusing to keep serving the roast beef to customers who want more protein than starch. Their profits depend on customers eating the desserts and potatoes and noodles, instead of the fish and chicken and roasts.
It's nice that places like Ruby Tuesday have wonderful offerings for locarbers--but they are significantly more expensive than the menu plates with carbs.
Perhaps there'll be more people eating at home...?
Rule # 1 in business survival....don't blame the customer....just give 'em what they want. Carbs are going the way of the beaver hat, the buggy whip, and the 8-track tape.
And they ate quite a bit of fruit if it was available to them. The limiting of fruits is very counter intuitive to me. I refuse to believe that an orange, a banana and similarly glycemic indexed fruit, per day is bad for me.
I think 50% protein, 25% fat and 25% carbs is a healthy diet. Combine this w/exercise and your bound to be as healthy as your genetic fate allows.
High protein diets should have this disclaimer: 'Atkins and the boys, cures obseity and peristalsis all in one fell swoop.' And don't forget, they're trying to sell you something too.
Whining because you missed out on the eating phase, and you didn't react fast enough to catch a lion's share of the market, and you aren't happy about it.
Get over it.
Bottom line for me is that I'm not buying anymore lies about food.
I would agree with that. And I will look into the other stuff.
I've experimented with various home style diets, carbs and no carbs, while running grueling mountain courses. Carbs kick in, for me, and the fatigue wall falls. I know, one guy experiments don't get published. LOL.
I agree that Atkins will run its course. Those true believers will continue in their low-carb ways, and trend-lovers will try the next diet. I say - whatever works for you!
But, what I also know is that our kids are so confused they don't know what to eat. Why is my 9 year old's friend "On Atkins"? Maybe she is growing OUT before she grows UP? Are we creating a climate that will result in trial-and-error excitement for adults, but dangerous eating disorders for our teenagers? Let's face it, the low carb revolution is obnoxious and in our faces. I'm not overweight, but have often been asked if I "really want to eat all that bread." Low-carbs=evangalism.
There obviously should be a mandatory daily intake of carbs set for the American public. How else are we going to protect the jobs of the carb workers that are being squeezed out by Atkins?
Went out with some friends yesterday to TGI Fridays. We split a spinach artichoke dip with veggies instead of chips. It was yummy. It was also two dollars more then the one with the chips. Reason? The veggies have a short shelf life, take more preparation and cost more to buy in the first place.
Same with other low carb options, potatoes last forever, you can buy them in bulk and serve them over a month if you like. Fresh broccoli? Maybe a week. Lower volume, higher price, more waste equals higher menu prices.
Wonder what the next fad will be and what business will b.tch about it..
Nice straw man argument!
Who told you not to eat fruit on Atkins?
Eat all the carbs you want, except for one thing:
But when carbs start making you gain weight, you'll have to choose WHICH carbs to eat, unless you want to look like Michael Moore. If you want fruit, enjoy.
Your 'refusal to believe' is just a refusal to accept reality of your body chemistry.
increate = increase
Since starting on locarb, my food bills have increased but not incredibly so. However, there are many stages of marking-up in the restaurant business, and costs that register as nominal to the home cook will be exponential to those dining out.
My 50-25-25 ratio has kept me at the same weight for 27 years. BP 102 over 68, resting pulse rate, 58, weight 120, height 5'3", and I'm near 50 years old, and with a tendency to gain weight easily.
As I understand Atkins bananas, oranjes and any other fruit which place high on the glycemic index should be quite limited, and I don't believe that to be sound, unless of course, you're a diabetic.
So you stay with your system and I'll stay w/mine. A fit body processes carbs much differently than a non-fit body. Any diet worth it's salt would begin first with the concept of physical fitness, and I don't see Atkins doing that.
Hidden agenda? For dieting? Oh yeah, everybody else is as obsessed as you.
The solution is to switch to low carb solutions. Obesity is the number one killer of Americans and we've been told over and over and over by the media that we are a nation of fatties. Therefore, if these companies are having a problems IT'S THE MEDIA'S FAULT :o)
What I can't have is fruit juice, but I just discovered a lighter version of Ruby Red which is delicious. I can only have a small serving of that, however.
I go through at least two heads of broccoli, a head of cauli, a cabbage, large frozen package of peas, bunch of celery, a quart jar of home-canned half-run green beans, two heads of lettuce, large package of grape tomatoes a week. This for four people.
When I get the craving for a mealy potato, I make two into a soup with frozen asparagus.
This business about locarb being a bacon-and-eggs desert is a canard promulgated by overweight dieticians.
Well, not entirely. The Fanjul family (sugar), Archer Daniels Midland (grain), and J.R. Simplot (potatoes) are all major Republican contributors and they are all getting hurt by the low-carb trend.
It's a question of paying attention to how much activity you are going to participate in and planning accordingly.
On the whole, though, far too many people eat like cows. Fill the trough and they eat till it's gone.
The difference between the various low carb diets and other diets more apt to be described as "fads" is how universal the results are. People who could never lose weight in other ways lose weight rapidly on some low-carb variant. Kenechi Udeze, the USC DE now Viking, lost 80 lbs by switching to a low-carb diet.
It just seems to work as long as you do it. Whereas other diets didn't seem to work or you had to exercise your butt off, in which case it could have been the working out, rather than dieting.
Little over a year ago, I was eagerly awaiting the arrival of Krispy Kreme stores to my area. I was salivating over the prospect of picking up a half dozen on a lazy Sunday morning and eating them all in my car as I read the paper.
But last April 1, I went on a low-carb diet (no April foolin') and lost over 100 pounds. Krispy Kreme has been in the area for a year now and I haven't been inside of one yet. And I go to Dunkin' Donuts for their coffee only. No Twinkies in over a year. No Yodels. Not even a glass of orange juice. I thought it would be tough giving that stuff up but after about two months, it was no longer a problem. Now a cup of yogurt is my dessert (tastes like soft-serve ice cream to me) and a handful of nuts satisfies any cravings for snacks that I might have.
Me too. I go out an average of twice a month, brown bag it to work and cook from scratch. The amount of money I spend on food is a very small portion of my budget.
I have been lo-carbing for several years now and I found you can cut cost even further if you buy the veggies at a farmers market and they taste better too! Add in buying your meat in bulk and avoid processed foods, even the lo-carb ones and your food budget doesn't have to go up that much if any.
However, there are many stages of marking-up in the restaurant business, and costs that register as nominal to the home cook will be exponential to those dining out.
Preparation is the biggest part of your costs in restaurant food and lo-carb food often, requires more preparation and doesn't keep well.
But I am glad to see restaurants responding to the lo-carb demand. It makes dining out much less of a hassle for me.
Boycotts do work. However, it seems that food, copulating, drinking (drugs) and sleeping are the only factors sufficient to motivate Americans.
1. Eliminate carbs for a few weeks and watch the weight melt off your body.
2. Reintroduce carbs slowly, to determine how your body uniquely responds to them.
3. Adjust the level of carbs to achieve your desired RATE OF ON-GOING WEIGHT LOSS.
4. At your target weight, increate the level of carbs to maintain your desired body weight
I didn't buy the Atkins book, but did cut down on the carbs and lost 20 lbs in 2 months and maintained for another 2, eating moderate amounts of carbs(a baked potato once a week, an apple a day and such).
Recently went on what one could call a tortilla chip and salsa binge and gained 5 lbs.
It wasn't the salsa that caused the gain, but damn it was good. Happens about once a year.
You nailed it! It has worked really well for me and my wife. I actually put the brakes on the elimination of carbs as I just wanted to fit nicely in my clothes and not change waist size. LOL! Noe I can tuck that shirt in and everything looks nice and neat! I lost easily 20 pounds over a few months. I love this way of eating. I take it easy on the carbs during the week but then 'pig out' on the week ends with no problem. And FAT is good, especially in the good cuts of meat.
High carb wouldn't be good for me under any circumstances because I would become a diabetic (runs in my family). Years ago, the governmnet foisted the pyramid food plan on us. It is interesting to note that dietitions and other experts of that day believed the pyramid to be dangerous to health and so it is. Even children get type II diabetes today. Also, many Americans have sedentary (office) jobs: no need to pile on carbs which become fat. Eating a high carb low fat diet caused me to be constantly hungry and gain 35 lbs in four years. I have now lost 25lbs of this weight low carbing. I have no sympathy for these food companies. It has been known for quite a while that corn syrup is very bad for you, but they continue to use it. By the way studies have now shown that low carb is healthier than high carb. You may not want to hear this, but pasta is not good for you. You were lied to.
I never was really overweight, but I noticed that in my twenties I went from 115 to 125 over a 3 year period. I was eating the same, but I became less active because my life slowed down.
Anyway, I always had good eating habits, but as an Italian carbs represented a pretty good part of my diet, although Americans have a real problem w/portion control, eh? I remember going over to my Anglo friends houses for dinner, and being stunned by how much they ate. Portions in my house/family were always normal size.
For me it was less about what I ate than how fit I was. And that has been my philosopy ever since. I can't consume more than 2 or 3 oz. of protein at a time (it slows me down physically and mentally), and I usually balance that w/a starchy veg or bread and a fibrous veg.
I eat bananas, apples, grapes every day. I like strawberries, but they're never naturally good, I always have to doctor them up w/cream or something, so I don't eat them unless they're in season. I eat a ton of blueberries with my cereal every morning, I love them, and if ever there was a super food it's them.
You didn't read the book. Exercise is covered quite extensively.
I totally agree. Here is a picture of me from summer of 2002 when I weighed close to 300 pounds, had high blood pressure, was tired (and hungry) all the time and was a borderline diabetic. And this was during a time when I tried eating "right" (lots of corn, rice, bread, fruit, potatos, etc.) according to the "balanced diet" of the food pyramid.
And here I am after just six months of the low-carb diet when I slimmed down to 214 (I currently weigh 196). I'll just let the pictures speak for themselves. This "high-carb" food pyramid is killing many of us.
We eat there at least once a week...it's actually less expensive than getting that variety at home.
I don't believe that Atkins places first importance on fitness. Point me to the sections in his book where you can confirm my error, and I'll be glad to concede your point. Atkins covers physical fitness and the primary importance of it in a cursory way, IMO.
Agree with you there. Although my grocery bill spiked when I went low-carb (natural foods are much more expensive than processed foods), eating less at restaurants has more than offset the higher cost of groceries. I now prefer to eat at home because I control the ingredients. Restaurants tend to add a lot of "extra" ingredients to their dishes that really pile up the calories and fat. For example, the steak dinner I make at home might have 750 calories but in a restaurant, it could add up to 2,000 calories easy.
I recently took my family to the Outback and the bill came to $120 (with tip) for the four of us. That's nearly five days worth of groceries in one shot!
Sorry - I'm not buying it.
I'm not disparaging any particular diet or any person who is on a diet, I am one of those fortunate people who has never had to diet and most likely never will.
The vast majority of the products listed here are highly processed which (supposedly) makes them nore expensive. More people are choosing less processed foods for a variety of reasons, including cost, not just the latest diet trend.
I personally have added to the profit losses of these companies because I long ago stopped buying as much prepared food, not to say I don't at all, but most of the stuff is outrageously expensive and tastes nothing like home made.
So, IMHO these companies have brought this upon themselves with over priced over processed products and are just looking for a scapegoat.......the current trend of low carb dieters are it. They need to blame something other than their own selves in order to appease the stockholders.
Let us be clear on what you are saying, by fitness you mean exercise as part of a balanced life style correct?
Try Chapter Six in Atkins for Life. He talks about the importance of aerobic and anaerobic exercise.
Like I said, you have obviously not read the books.
Good job SAM! Hey, lets grill some steaks today with some nice FAT still on them, some green veggies, etc! Way to go! And for some CARBS, a nice glass of RED WINE!
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