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Posted on 05/19/2004 9:17:44 AM PDT by quidnunc
For once, let's hear it for the good guys. If every country in the world fought terrorism as aggressively as the USA and Great Britain, the truly bad guys would be beaten down, perhaps forever.
But hoping that the nations of the world will respond cohesively to the savagery and potential mass destruction of modern terror is a lost cause. We live in a world of denial and self-interest. You have as much chance of finding the Wizard of Oz as you do persuading some timid and misguided countries to join the fight against the Islama-fascists.
Even countries like Canada are no longer dependable allies. According to a Macleans poll, 38% of Canadians say their attitude toward the USA has worsened since 9/11. Almost half of our friends to the north see America as arrogant, bullying or dangerous.
To be sure, the Bush administration's non-compromising stance in Iraq and insistence that terror-enabling states be confronted (Axis of Evil) have put off many foreigners who embrace a far more passive approach toward terrorism. But the Canadian situation exemplifies what is truly going on in this world.
Over the past two decades, Canada has become committed to secularism and government entitlements. Subsidized medical care, decriminalization of marijuana, gay marriage, extensive welfare for newly arrived immigrants and an aggressively liberal Canadian Broadcasting Company have all become part of the culture. The eastern Canadian press is especially anti-American, and delights in hammering their more traditional American neighbors.
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My 30 years experience with Canadiens, though mostly those from Yukon, NWT, northern B.C., rural Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba, has been positive.They are very aware of the creeping socialism foisted upon them by liberal immigration policies inundating their country with euroweenies and ecofreaks. There is a federal election on the horizon and there is a good chance the conservatives can regain some control over the government, if not total control. Check LUFA and Free Dominion and you will see the contempt for the liberals and their policies.
We would act, but they might have to take a number if we were already involved elsewhere. But, I guess they are used to waiting.
Maybe we should send an armored brigade across the border and occupy Winnepeg. The ransom would be enough beer for all the troops. Don't think the Mounties will pull them over for drunk driving.
It seems to be taking them an awful long time on Tre Arrow's extradition too.
agreed... but then again they have to wait for a doctor, a real sport.. (sorry no offense to hockey)... come on is curling really a sport or an excuse to freeze your but off while drinking? Plus really anyone attacking them has limited access options anyway. except by air.
Yes, we'll act by sending some “inspectors” into Canada for 12 years, longer if needed, and give them the benefit of our criticism advise.
But, Canada won't need our help, their allies, France and Germany, will rush in to defend Canada.
"The Libs have been running that shytehole for so long that the "canadians" (haha, yuk) spell democracy "F-A-S-C-I-S-M"
When you think about it, though, who would actually fight and put troops at risk to win -- Canada? Seems like a pretty unlikely scenario and they know it.
I would think that Canada will turn them over once they've been officially charged. I don't know that they have been charged as yet. As for turning over a US citizen to a 3rd country, I think that is a separate issue from that of returning a national to his country of origin, and it just confuses the issue.
You may be right, an indictment may be sufficiant. I'm not a lawyer so I'm not sure. At any rate in spite of existing indictment once they've filed refuge claims; those claims must be heard, adjudicated and of course appealed, so it's not a simple matter of handing them over to a legal jurisdiction.
I think that is what the debate is about over this; once a refuge claim is made in Canada you're locked into a process that may take years depending on the case. As some Immigration Officials have already said, the two soldiers do not have a strong case so this is unlikely to drag on.
As for turning a US citizen over to a 3rd country; I mentioned that only because the US government did just that last year to a Canadian citizen of Iranian descent. They arrested him in New York and deported him, to Syria of all places, where he was tortured. It was later determined that he was arrested as a result of information provided by Canadian authorities.
The guy has been returned to Canada but there's still an argument going on about the truth of the information that sent him there and of course, why Syria?
So when I bring up the example of third country involvemnt I mean to highlight the danger that, in the absence of due process, innocent people could find themselves on a plane to Syria or "disappeared" entirely, just on the say so of some bureaucratic nudge in the CSIS, who has a James Bond complex.
Thanks for the response Tallguy
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She got a call from some gal in Canada and they talked a bit about her problems and symptoms. My sister said she'd send their information packets and then suggested she set up an appointment with her gastroendinolist.
Canada girl said she had been to see him and could only see him once a year because of their health system.
About three weeks ago, while southbound on US23 near Fenton, Michigan, I overtook a Ford Focus with Canadian plates. In the back window was a Kerry for President sign, the kind of sign normally seen in someone's front yard.
The entire city of Montreal (almost 2M people) has a grand total of one "official" MRI machine. The government turns a blind eye to illegal operators of MRIs because obviously they can't get by with only one machine.
Not sure that dog is going to hunt either.
the Somalia affair: the 1993 torture and murder of a Somali teenager by Canadian airborne soldiers, and the culture of racism and brutality in the ranks that it exposed.Of course this article goes on to blame the entire incident on the US but well that's what we expect from Eurotrash and wanna be Eurotrash.The Somalia revelations during 1994 and 1995 anguished the nation and traumatized the Canadian military. The perpetrators were court-martialed. But a military inquiry continues into the events surrounding the murder as well as the chain of command -- and what looks like a cover-up -- all the way to the Department of National Defense in Ottawa.
The Canadian airborne was disbanded in January after the murder of Shidane Arone, a teenage Somali thief, was followed by embarrassing videotaped footage of racism and brutal hazing in the regiment formerly known for its wartime heroics. One segment depicted Canada's U.N. peacekeepers in Somalia referring to local citizens as "nig-nogs" and joking about hunting Somalis as trophies.
Another tape showed a black airborne recruit crawling through a gantlet of blows and a shower of human waste with the words "I love KKK" scrawled on his back. That soldier later said he hadn't minded the treatment, in the context of the hazing ritual, and didn't consider his buddies racists.
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