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Proof that at least one of two (evolution, ice age) key theories is false
official school material ^ | 04/05/21 | self

Posted on 05/21/2004 10:42:47 AM PDT by Truth666

These are three of the dogmas which we are endoctrinated nowadays in school : #1 - origins of the current forms life forms: by evolution from previous forms #2 - appearance of Homo Sapiens (from encarta): The oldest known fossils that possess skeletal features typical of modern humans date from between 130,000 and 90,000 years ago. #3 - last ice age (from encarta): the most recent ice age, the Pleistocene Epoch, lasted from about 1.6 million years to 10,000 years before present ... when temperatures were 5° to 7° C cooler than today.

#1 and #2 are part of current evolution theory; #3 is part of current ice age theory.

There can be no doubts that no other theory has so much impact on modern society as evolution theory. In view of the signs of climate change from the last years, ice age theory is impacting society more by the day.

From these dogmas we immediately can take the following conclusion : homo sapiens has already experienced an ice age.

Now hold on to your seat : relying solely on the assumptions of both theories, there's plenty of evidence that AT LEAST one of these theories is false ! In other words : these theories are incompatible.

Let's take one piece of evidence that any high school student can understand.

Lord Howe Island - living proof


This is not just another coral reef. This is Lord Howe Island, by far the southern-most coral reef in the world. Its existance is only possible due to particular climate conditions that affect an area of the world where no other land rises even remotely near sea level. In fact there's nothing but deep ocean until Port Macquarie, on the NSW coast, 550 kms away.

This wonder of the world would be immediately destroyed, if the ocean temperature would drop just one degree Celsius. If the temperature would drop 5°C both endemic unmistakable palms (including the most popular indoor palm of the world, howea forsteriana) would also perish. So, just to take these two examples, both the coral and the howea would have had to have developed from scratch during the last 10,000 years. A claim that nobody would dare to make.

(Excerpt) Read more at encarta.msn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: catastrophism; crevolist; endoctrinated; evolution; iceage; prozacchewables; spitzbergen; theory
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poor liars, that are not even able to spread consistent lies.
1 posted on 05/21/2004 10:42:48 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: Truth666

You're missing the key point. Global warming can cause ice ages. And therefore ice ages can cause global warming. So it was probably warmer on this island during the last ice age. Come on. Get with the program.


2 posted on 05/21/2004 10:46:43 AM PDT by tbeatty (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat salad.)
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To: Truth666

Yep the creationists are poor liars.

One example micro-enviroment sans any analysis does not disprove anything.

Creationists know how hard it is to disprove something. They are just intellectually dishonest.


3 posted on 05/21/2004 10:48:15 AM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Truth666

Great argumentation...


4 posted on 05/21/2004 10:49:42 AM PDT by sibbel
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To: Truth666

Problem is the last ice age was about 130,000 years ago.

That is plenty of time to establish a coral reef and fauna.


5 posted on 05/21/2004 10:51:17 AM PDT by KeyWest
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To: Truth666
There can be no doubts that no other theory has so much impact on modern society as evolution theory.

Social theory is dead. It turned out to be useless anyway since it didn't work on Moslims.

6 posted on 05/21/2004 10:51:50 AM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Truth666
If the temperature would drop 5°C both endemic unmistakable palms (including the most popular indoor palm of the world, howea forsteriana) would also perish. So, just to take these two examples, both the coral and the howea would have had to have developed from scratch during the last 10,000 years.

False premise.

7 posted on 05/21/2004 10:54:08 AM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: Truth666

there is nothing mentioning polar shifts? We had glaciers here in the US until not too many hundreds years ago...

Our magnetic poles have constantly moved throughout history and at times even reversed. This could cause massive climate changes. unaccounted for in this article.

What about the phenomena that we are currently experiencing that will cool us down rapidly? The planet earth is in the midst of a 'celestial dust storm' our solar system is currently passing through a dense (in space terms) cloud of dust that is filtering a portion of our sun's heat and light. We can only hope for our internal "global warming CO-2" to help us maintain temperatures.

food for thought///


8 posted on 05/21/2004 10:54:50 AM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: Truth666
The oldest known fossils that possess skeletal features typical of modern humans date from between 130,000 and 90,000 years ago

You are off by a factor of about 10 on this one.

9 posted on 05/21/2004 10:54:54 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: RightWhale

Don't you think we should give the Moose-Limbs another 13 centuries to evolve from their present barbaric state? Considering that their closest relative in the animal/insect world is the cockroach, I wouldn't be too optimistic.


10 posted on 05/21/2004 10:59:14 AM PDT by KAUAIBOUND (Hawaii - a Socialist paradise for left-wing cockroaches)
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To: PatrickHenry

For the crew...


11 posted on 05/21/2004 10:59:29 AM PDT by whattajoke
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To: ElkGroveDan

He is only off by a factor of 10 if you are looking strictly at jaw and tooth size. He said skeletal resemblance.


12 posted on 05/21/2004 11:01:01 AM PDT by Righty1
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13 posted on 05/21/2004 11:02:43 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist!)
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To: Truth666

This is a joke, right? No one can be as dumb as the writer and still qualify as living - rock - maybe.

Sure makes some really informed arguments against evolution.


14 posted on 05/21/2004 11:03:22 AM PDT by familyofman
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This could cause massive climate changes

Any idea what a mechanism linking earth's magnetism and climate might be?

15 posted on 05/21/2004 11:03:32 AM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Truth666
So, just to take these two examples, both the coral and the howea would have had to have developed from scratch during the last 10,000 years. A claim that nobody would dare to make.

But nobody would dare to make the claim that either coral or palms developed "from scratch" on this island, ever. Coral and palms came to this island from elsewhere, at some point in time. Why not in the last 10,000 years?

16 posted on 05/21/2004 11:09:58 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: Physicist
Coral and palms came to this island from elsewhere, at some point in time.

Oh sure. What did they do, just float over on an ocean?;^)

17 posted on 05/21/2004 11:13:24 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: Physicist

Ok, so where did that giant, flattened cottonball in the picture come from?


18 posted on 05/21/2004 11:18:36 AM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: CobaltBlue
Coral and palms came to this island from elsewhere, at some point in time.

Oh sure. What did they do, just float over on an ocean?;^)
It's not like coconuts float or anything. I bet a swallow could carry one though...
19 posted on 05/21/2004 11:23:20 AM PDT by Saturnalia (My name is Matt Foley and I live in a VAN down by the RIVER.)
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To: Dinsdale

You have to admit that he did try to pull the wool over everyone's eyes!


20 posted on 05/21/2004 11:25:33 AM PDT by NoClones
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