Skip to comments.Proof that at least one of two (evolution, ice age) key theories is false
Posted on 05/21/2004 10:42:47 AM PDT by Truth666
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The reefs could easily have died, but their skeletal remains would persist, and then be re-established later from coral larvae drifting in from the north.
If the temperature would drop 5°C both endemic unmistakable palms
5 degress celsius is a pretty big drop for a small island in the middle of a moderating ocean at about 32 degrees south.
Nice attempt at a strawman, however.
I have solid empirical evidence that most evolutionists and creationists have the intellect to conclude that such "broad brush" statements are intellectually dishonest. Others don't have the intellect, or at least don't use it.
Many come to these threads because there are those who actually discuss these issues. I know I am frustrated by having to filter posts from those who would rather defend their ego than learn. Let's all do a better job of restraint (or absence) and bump up the odds of a good discussion.
I disagree that the the ice age ended 10,000 years ago. During the last 1.6 million years there have been many periods (interglacial) where the ice retreated. Many were warmer than the current interglacial.
Yeah, right in the middle of a warm current. And it's so unique - I mean, we don't have any other examples of an area at higher latitudes being warmed by an ocean current. Other than Europe. Oh, yeah, and we can't forget Bermuda - and gee, Bermuda has coral reefs also.
So much for the uniqueness part of your statement.
Any idea what a mechanism linking earth's magnetism and climate might be?
I am not a climatologist (or whaever its called) but for a very simple illustration of the relationship of magnetism and climate....
You have seen those little devices that can stir liquids without any mechanical content? Set a beaker down and it amazingly begins to rotate into the familiar vortex form?
That is rotating magnetism at work. on a very very minuscle scale. Take the magnetic energies of our liquid metallic core (causing ocean currents and affecting air currents) - if the core fields shift, then all it affects shifts with it. The Humbolt current (of Kon Tiki fame) runs down the coast of South America all the way through the South Pacific and it's patter affects our west coast in the form of El Nino and La Nina (never could make a tilde)
Imagine the Humbolt current shifting north...North of it would become warmer - south, cooler. Like I said - simplified example. Peru could become a tropical paradise instead of the desert it is now if the current shifted south. Add to that all the other major ocean currents that are more responsible for climate than anything. The western pacific currdnts change and India would become fruitful instead of a combination of barren deserts and flooded plains. Shift that current the other direction and we would have our mid east desert a ways further to the east and Baghdad a Med paradise ?
All because the magnetic fields shifted one way or another.
I have NEVER seen a study of the effects of the polar reversal though - probably near to catastrophic for the urban populations.
The poles reverse polarity about every 25,000 years. I believe the earth's magnetic field blocks some of the sun's rays. If this is true, there would probably be a point halfway through the polarity shift that would have reduced protection. Just speculation, no flames please.
Well, there goes your coral theory.
Good explanation. I should have waited a few minutes. ;-)
Just not the author of this article.
To make the claim that one or the other theory is false is intellectually dishonest. The first step in arguing against a false permise is to identify the false premise.
I've seen far to many unsupported gradious claims from the bible thumpers to give them the pass you do, but I will revise my statement in light of your criticism.
Many creationists (at least a large plurality, including the author of this article) are intellectually dishonest
I rest my case. Thanks for the additional help.
Really? A website on Lord Howe Island begs to differ:
These include four species of palm, the best known being Howea forsteriana, which forms dense lowland forests in some areas.So now both your palm and your coral theories are toast. Oh, well, back to the drawing board. Maybe you can play the Mississippi River gambit next time.
I like the other possibility, that earth's atmosphere generates earth's mag field, although it might be that the mag field is induced by ocean currents. The question is whether liquid phase water is better at inducing mag fields than is gas phase water.
This suggestion is necessary but not sufficient evidence that I am a crackpot scientist.
Ah, but what kind of swallow?...
poor liars, that are not even able to spread consistent lies.
Go to school. Read a book other than the Bible. Get a life.
According to RightWhale's postulate of global magnetism, this may be close to the description of the actual mechanism of change.
The last Ice Age ended abruptly, more or less since it is still ending, about 12,000 years ago.
Hmmm - Mt. Gower is 900 m high. Here's a picture:
Looks like the top 400 meters are almost vertical. Yet this is the "rain forest" you are talking about?
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