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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Nine
Yahoo News ^ | 5-30-04 | DONNA ABU-NASR AP

Posted on 05/30/2004 12:05:02 AM PDT by JustPiper

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To: knak

The religion of piece [a piece of this person and a piece of that person] strikes again.

So why do I post this stuff? Because somebody needs to know the truth. HIGH SCHOOL teachers in TX were FIRED for showing the Berg murder to vounteers. These are the same kids who turn 18 their senior year and vote!! The parents and school boards are up in arms. Our country is awash in PC revitionist history, and is now making Muslim holidays.

We are doomed unless we as empowered patriots take our country back from the morons to whom we have mistakenly given responsibility.

101 posted on 05/30/2004 1:34:41 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: Indie
"In addition, all it is going to take is another spike in oil, or another attack to send at least 3 major airlines immediately into bankruptcy."

Bush is absolutely correct IMHO in refusing to cave in to the RAT request to tap into the emergency reserve just for some dubious price relief. He should however, use any further spikes in price or an attack (GOD FORBID!) to force the Congress into emergency drilling off the coasts of Florida, California and all over ANWAR. Those places should be drilled like (ahem) a $10 hooker, if you'll pardon my french. The oil companies would probably capitalize on the finds by selling the resultant products overseas for more profit rather than see their soaring profits drop here in the U.S. In that case, I'd suggest that they be threatened with "nationalization" on the basis of national security. I'm all for capitalism, but Big Oil is just out of control. Of course, I'd like to see the Fed dissolved, too.

102 posted on 05/30/2004 1:35:29 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic. (R.I.P. harpseal))
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To: Indie

Keep a very close eye on South America.


103 posted on 05/30/2004 1:39:03 PM PDT by milkncookies (BEWARE OF PREGNANT WOMEN DISGUISED AS POLICE WHO SMELL LIKE DYNAMITE!)
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To: ExSoldier

I basically heard a similar report as below this morning on Fox by some Muslim professor I believe. So, my question is: what does this have to do with the terrorists asking the hostages what faith they adhere to? (Not that the terrorists have to use any logic...)

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From Debka

DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources: Al Qaeda’s goals in Khobar attack at heart of E. Saudi oil center were to sabotage secret Bush-Saudi deal on oil prices and frighten foreigners out of kingdom. Saudis would then fail to make good on promise to boost production to curb prices.

Interior minister Prince Nayef’s ambivalence on religious extremists lays Saudi security services open to al Qaeda’s penetration and its access to well-fortified sites like Khobar’s oil company offices and residential compounds. In purported statement, al Qaeda Saudi leader Moqrin declared "Jews and Crusaders" targeted for death.


104 posted on 05/30/2004 1:42:09 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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105 posted on 05/30/2004 1:43:14 PM PDT by milkncookies (BEWARE OF PREGNANT WOMEN DISGUISED AS POLICE WHO SMELL LIKE DYNAMITE!)
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To: Indie

You are absolutely right.


106 posted on 05/30/2004 1:43:45 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: StillProud2BeFree

>>All I have is a date, and that was alluded to, although in a very cryptic fashion, in several previous issues of Voice of Jihad. I have no clue (other than some educated guesses based on other information in the issues of Voice of Jihad and Al Battar, as well as various posts on the Arabic forums) as to what or where. I really do not want to frighten people unnecessarily<<

You know --when you posted this information, you knew that everyone would want to know. I find it a little unfair and self-serving to post it originally, and than refuse to complete the information. Is not ALL of the information on this thread frightening???


107 posted on 05/30/2004 1:44:35 PM PDT by sissyjane (You're either with us or against us.)
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To: sissyjane

I apologize - I'll ask the lead moderator to remove the posting


108 posted on 05/30/2004 1:45:31 PM PDT by StillProud2BeFree
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To: StillProud2BeFree

I guess that means "no".


109 posted on 05/30/2004 1:48:07 PM PDT by milkncookies (BEWARE OF PREGNANT WOMEN DISGUISED AS POLICE WHO SMELL LIKE DYNAMITE!)
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To: milkncookies; All

Google "Voice of Jihad."


110 posted on 05/30/2004 1:50:36 PM PDT by Lucy Lake
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To: ExSoldier
We know why those agencies have the authority to take over everything...for the government's OWN use, not to protect against anarchy. WE as citizens will die as a result.

The government's only reponsibility is to perpetuate itself, not to protect us. Even on a local level this is true. The police have no duty to protect. Precisely why they can not be sued.

Of course we all know this. THIS is the reason for the Second Amendment. These orders are dictatorial and outside the control of the Constitution. The founders feared this could happen. Let us hope for America's sake, that our people have the stomach for the battle that will take place, and indeed has already begun [Waco and Runy Ridge..never forget].

The jihadis are out to destroy our country, i.e. Americans [Christians and Jews as well] and our way of life. The government fears its own citizens more than the jihadis, because it realizes it will only be threatened when it attempts to take control, and that its subjects will resist.

111 posted on 05/30/2004 1:51:13 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: StillProud2BeFree

I certainly hope you don't come on this thread after an attack somewhere and say "see I told you", because I for one will not believe you.

This entire thread is about reporting threats, and you say that you know of one with some specificity, however you refuse to share the information.

Baloney!!!


112 posted on 05/30/2004 1:52:09 PM PDT by sissyjane (You're either with us or against us.)
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To: sissyjane

Not to worry SissyJane, I won't be posting anything on this thread again after the attacks I've received in Freepmail.


113 posted on 05/30/2004 1:53:54 PM PDT by StillProud2BeFree
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To: StillProud2BeFree

An apology won't do it. You've just made me very, very angry.

If you had no intention of sharing important information why did you bring it up? Who are you, anyway?

We don't need little game players on this thread.


114 posted on 05/30/2004 1:57:03 PM PDT by Lucy Lake
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To: Velveeta

You too Velveeta.


115 posted on 05/30/2004 1:58:41 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: StillProud2BeFree

Well there are some of us here who won't forget your name, and will be alert for your Lying on other threads as well!!


116 posted on 05/30/2004 2:05:32 PM PDT by sissyjane (You're either with us or against us.)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

GREAT post RR.


117 posted on 05/30/2004 2:09:30 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: JustPiper

Please read post 107. This person says he has specific threat information; tell us he has it, refuses to share it---and when called on it by numerous posters , he asks to have the original post #100 removed. I'm pretty irritated, but then I guess you can tell.


118 posted on 05/30/2004 2:12:08 PM PDT by sissyjane (You're either with us or against us.)
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To: StillProud2BeFree

Is it 6/8, 1000 days after 9/11 or
it is 6/10 91.1 days after 3/11 or how about 6/11?


119 posted on 05/30/2004 2:13:32 PM PDT by Selene
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To: JustPiper

Hey JP,
When you have time please add me to the pingeroo list. I don't want to get lost. To much time/effort invested here.
My husband says the threat matrix has become another appendage :-)


120 posted on 05/30/2004 2:13:37 PM PDT by Oorang ( If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?)
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To: Oorang

http://www.nbc5i.com/travelgetaways/3357113/detail.html

Female AA flight attendant responsible for bomb note in jet lavatory. F-16's excorted this flight to BNA when AF1 was on airport.


121 posted on 05/30/2004 2:18:53 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: Selene

I'm guessing June 8th, "The Orange is on the Sun." A phrase I had in my head for a couple of years now but could never figure out what it meant. I posted reference to it back in December or January hoping someone would know what it meant. I now suspect it meant when Venus transits the Sun. Venus looks orange and will be on the Sun June 8th, which is also G-8 and 1,000 days. I'm betting on June 8th.


122 posted on 05/30/2004 2:29:58 PM PDT by mindspy
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To: Indie
Atlantic City has become the fourth school district in New Jersey to recognize Muslim holidays

Isn't that special???? We can no longer recognize Christian holidays. Can no longer say "we're on Christmas break" or "we're on Easter break".

But the Muslim holidays ARE NOW to be recognized!!! Imagine the kids saying "hey Mom, we're off of school tomorrow for Eid-a-wanna-kill-Christian-day" or whatever the heck they call it.

I'm going to say something I never thought I'd say: Islam is a religion of mass destruction. Islam = RMD. Right here in the good ole U.S. of A.

123 posted on 05/30/2004 2:33:59 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: MamaDearest
If I sound paranoid

I don't think you sound paranoid.

124 posted on 05/30/2004 2:35:47 PM PDT by Oorang ( If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?)
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To: StillProud2BeFree; sissyjane; milkncookies; All

Please. We're all on edge. Let's not bash on each other.

Stillproud2BeFree works so hard day and night for ALL of us. Her translations of Arabic to English are no doubt the best around and I'm sure even the feds look to her for her knowledge and analysis.

If SP2BF needed to retract something that she said, there is a reason. Please trust her, I do.


125 posted on 05/30/2004 2:42:01 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: StillProud2BeFree

Me, too! Me, too!


126 posted on 05/30/2004 2:43:14 PM PDT by JellyJam
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To: Velveeta

And what is to become of the local leaders who allowed such a thing to happen? That is the sad part. Everyone has to be "tolerant." Nobody wants to be seen as a "bigot."
And what is worse, is most of these types are christians [sic] who think they are being "Christian." The same types of christians [sic] who support abortion and the same types who fall into the hedonistic new wave unitarian mumbo jumbo which no more resembles Christianity than Buddhism.

If this is what these misquided morons think Christianity is about, and if this is the kind of "Christianity" they think our Founders based this country on, they are sadly blind. Have they never opened their Bibles? Have they never opened a history book!?? Have they never studied the fall of great civilizations, great warriors like Patton, and the great leaders of our past?

Unfortunately I think these folks get their moral compasses and their "history" from Dan Blather, Newsweek and the local headlines.


127 posted on 05/30/2004 2:43:15 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Hope your cook-in turns out great and memorable. It's so nice to have family get-togethers in this time of turmoil. Takes your mind off more serious matters. :)


128 posted on 05/30/2004 2:44:19 PM PDT by MamaDearest (Our time on earth is limited - make the best of it!)
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To: Velveeta
Atlantic City schools to recognize Islamic holidays

I'd be curious to know if they've curtailed Christian holidays (calling them "winter break" or "holiday break). Seems like only Muslims are making in-roads in our country's schools, businesses and airports these days.

129 posted on 05/30/2004 2:48:08 PM PDT by MamaDearest (Our time on earth is limited - make the best of it!)
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To: Indie

Least we not forget who led the sheeples to this slippery slope and herded them down it. Who made war on patriotism and patriots? Who was that began this war on America? Who tried for a coup when President Bush won the election? All roads lead back to Clinton. We are now in the final phase of our fight against evil. I say the jihadis and the left are Clinton's useful idiots to facilitate their grab for power.


130 posted on 05/30/2004 2:51:02 PM PDT by mindspy
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To: Velveeta
I am catching up, once again, so I missed the original post. Consequently I am at a loss as to what this is all about.

If SP2BF needed to retract something that she said, there is a reason. Please trust her, I do.

I agree.

131 posted on 05/30/2004 2:59:58 PM PDT by Oorang ( If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

A hearty hug and tip of the hat to your Father, RR.


132 posted on 05/30/2004 3:01:41 PM PDT by Oorang ( If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?)
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This link was sent to me via email. Tin foil required, possibly in large quantities. It's regarding "snowball" (remember that?) and all the naval exercises coming up, etc. Does anyone know anything about this George A. Ure fellow? It's his website.

http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm

133 posted on 05/30/2004 3:05:59 PM PDT by Oorang ( If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?)
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To: mindspy

One more thing to add to June 8th. Remember OBL told the leaders they would be warned a few minutes ahead of time and would be able to watch the destruction from the underground hiding place. One one think there are underground bunkers equipped with the latest and greatest technology at the G-8 summit on that island. Going out of the box even further, for all we know the leaders could go underground, through a tunnel get on a sub and head out into the depths of the ocean watching everything from that sub.


134 posted on 05/30/2004 3:06:23 PM PDT by mindspy
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To: Velveeta

>>Please. We're all on edge. Let's not bash on each other.

Stillproud2BeFree works so hard day and night for ALL of us. Her translations of Arabic to English are no doubt the best around and I'm sure even the feds look to her for her knowledge and analysis.

If SP2BF needed to retract something that she said, there is a reason. Please trust her, I do. <<

I'm not doubting anyone's worth to this TM. What I'm questioning is the fact that she said she had a specific DATE for a terrorist attack, but didn't want to post it so that people wouldn't be frightened---Now , this is the forum where we POST and discuss threats!
If she knew she wasn't going to post the date, than she shouldn't have brought it up.

I'm very happy that she is valuble to the TM, but this behavior is unbelievable!!


135 posted on 05/30/2004 3:11:02 PM PDT by sissyjane (You're either with us or against us.)
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To: sissyjane

Maybe she has been told she cannot post the date, perhaps by the Feds. She has probably posted legally what she can to provide warning and clues should one wish to pursue them.


136 posted on 05/30/2004 3:14:42 PM PDT by mindspy
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To: Selene
Federal elections in Canada on 5/28/04:

Canadian Federal Elections 5/28/04

137 posted on 05/30/2004 3:16:03 PM PDT by MamaDearest (Our time on earth is limited - make the best of it!)
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To: StillProud2BeFree

SP2BF, please reconsider. I understand the gravity of having a possible target date and not releasing the information until and unless the feds are made aware of it. You've been an excellent FReeper and I don't want to see you go!


138 posted on 05/30/2004 3:18:33 PM PDT by MamaDearest (Our time on earth is limited - make the best of it!)
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To: Velveeta; All
Velveeta,

Thank you for your post it says it well and I agree.

Still Proud 2 be Free, has worked very hard, day and night, if there was a reason for pulling the message, then it should have been pulled, and since SP2bF has proven herself,
since this thread started, there is no reason for the personal attacks.

What has happened to my wonderful group of friends, is it the stress? the times? or is this how we loose the group and we will loose our country.

Turning on our selves and consuming us.

It has reached the point that even I get upset, and I am not into fighting with others.

STRESS now there is the key.

Hugs to all
granny
139 posted on 05/30/2004 3:18:39 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)
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To: Velveeta; StillProud2BeFree

I agee.


140 posted on 05/30/2004 3:20:05 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

You have words of wisdom Granny. As you said a few days ago "we are eating our own". (I think that's what you said :-))


141 posted on 05/30/2004 3:22:20 PM PDT by Oorang ( If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?)
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To: Old Sarge; LindaSOG; Calpernia; Jill St Claire; JohnathanRGalt; yonif; Destro; StillProud2BeFree; ..

ON THE NET...

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http://www.cybcity.com/alsarya1/
http://alsarya333.cjb.net/
http://216.120.233.249/
http://www.fnoor.com/

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http://www.cybcity.com/sar12345/pg2.htm
http://www.humankw.com/human/showpage.asp?id=249&pg=17
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http://www.saddam.web1000.com/
http://www.freewebs.com/abudujanah/guestbook.htm
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22abudujanah%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0
http://abudujanah2.tripod.com/main.htm
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Abu+Dujanah%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Abu+Dujana%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0


142 posted on 05/30/2004 3:25:46 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Excellent post, granny. These are stressful times, and I, for one, do not want to see all that we have accomplished on this thread go by the wayside due to our in-fighting. I myself reacted "like a bull in a china shop" yesterday to perceived indignities hurled at this group as a whole.

I hope that SP2BF will continue to post here; I find her translations to be an invaluable tool in our WOT. If anyone doubts how much pressure the FBI can put on those who would point out their ineptitude, read "First Strike: TWA Flight 800 and the Attack on America." It will open your eyes to the personal cost one can suffer when they try to "get the word out".


143 posted on 05/30/2004 3:28:42 PM PDT by liberallyconservative
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To: Oorang
Thank you Oorang! Lately sometimes I wonder. We had thunder the other night and my husband and I did a quick glance at each other as if, is this it and do we need to hurry to our little "shelter?" Today I am feeling so pained that our "freedoms" here are permitting the Muslims school holidays, foot washing at Sky Harbor Airport. They are taking small steps leading to an eventual large takeover. If it isn't stopped, will the citizens rebel and will there be a new type of civil war - North AND South / East and West against the Muslims takeover?

The Danger of a Muslim Takeover of America

144 posted on 05/30/2004 3:33:44 PM PDT by MamaDearest (Our time on earth is limited - make the best of it!)
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To: MamaDearest

Bad bad boo boo - should have been 6/28/04. Sorry I couldn't find the correct numerical keys.


145 posted on 05/30/2004 3:36:17 PM PDT by MamaDearest (Our time on earth is limited - make the best of it!)
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To: Oorang
Thanks for the link Oorang. Never heard of this guy but he thinks like we do! :) It may be paranoia, but no harm in having the bases covered! :)
146 posted on 05/30/2004 3:37:09 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: MamaDearest

And thank you MD for that wonderful link. You owe me a new keyboard.

How blind can our government be!!? Never mind, don't answer that..we already know.


147 posted on 05/30/2004 3:48:14 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: sissyjane

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS....the date is june 23 and the place is Michigan, Detroit

NOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO START AN INTERNET ROUMOR AND PUT FEAR IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY.

LAY OFF THESE TWO PEOPLE THEY HAVE PUT COUNTLESS HOURS, DAYS, WEEKS, MONTHS AND APOLOGIZE.

THEY CANNOT SAY FOR SURE NOBODY CAN. AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE RESPONIABLE FOR MADNESS. AND I WILL NOT BE EITHER.


148 posted on 05/30/2004 3:50:17 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: Indie

I agree in having the bases covered Indie. I believe that knowledge is power. I would rather sift through it all and decide for myself what I deem of value. Besides, I'm growing fond of tin foil. Maybe I'll take up tin foil origami.


149 posted on 05/30/2004 3:51:08 PM PDT by Oorang ( If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?)
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To: Oorang
If I was trying to keep something secret, I would depend on "the tin foil factor" [ostracizing those who attempt to expose me] to help me keep it secret. In other words, just because we are paranoid, does not mean people aren't really after us. There is no such thing as tin foil.
150 posted on 05/30/2004 3:58:24 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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