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Ted Kennedy: Reagan won the Cold War
Fox News ^ | 6/5/04 | Fox News

Posted on 06/05/2004 7:49:23 PM PDT by norcalvet

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass: "On foreign policy he will be honored as the president who won the Cold War, and his 'Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall' will be linked forever with President Kennedy's 'Ich bin ein Berliner.' President Reagan and Nancy were always very gracious to the Kennedy family and they are both very much in our thoughts and prayers in this difficult time."

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chappaquaddick; coldwar; honored; kennedy; reagan; ronaldreagan; statement; tedkennedy
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To: norcalvet

Uncharacteristically thoughtful and civil, coming from Kennedy.....


51 posted on 06/05/2004 8:41:41 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: norcalvet
Are you sure it's that Ted Kennedy?
52 posted on 06/05/2004 8:42:58 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: Piranha

He must have been kidnapped and replaced with a space pod person. Hehehe


53 posted on 06/05/2004 8:46:32 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: mabelkitty
Reagan's official biographer, Lou Cannon, did a masterful job of impartially, accurately and vividly transcribing the thoughts of Reagan during his years as Governor, president and ex-president, interpreting them in the fairest possible manner and then giving us his own perspective on Reagan's policies.

I read his profile of Reagan during his years as governor of California-the body of reportage occurring when Cannon was assigned to the capital beat by the San Jose Mercury-News-and was immediately enthralled.

Anyone who is looking for a fine biography of our former president should rush to their local bookstore or public library and pick up that book.

54 posted on 06/05/2004 8:49:28 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid (Remember St. Gerard. The prayers of expectant mothers are always heard.)
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To: norcalvet

May be the first time I've ever seen Ted Kennedy behave well. I'll feel free to trash him later for his many awful remarks - but for now, let's just admit Ted behaved with grace this time. Hoe others will follow this example.


55 posted on 06/05/2004 8:55:13 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

I agree. He actually gave him credit for some of his accomplishments, unlike Kerry and most of the other Democrats who praise him only for his genial nature.


56 posted on 06/05/2004 8:59:08 PM PDT by SupplySider
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To: norcalvet

I just wonder.....HOW MANY cocktails had Teddy consumed before making that statement? I'm shocked at the generosity from Kennedy towards Reagan at this sad time.


57 posted on 06/05/2004 8:59:47 PM PDT by Ragirl (Vote in '04 ! Those who sit on their hands end up with poop on them.)
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To: norcalvet

58 posted on 06/05/2004 9:02:58 PM PDT by al baby (Hope I don't get into trouble for this)
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To: norcalvet

I can't stand the man, but kudos to him for his comments. For once he can see the light and rise above petty politics. Amazing!


59 posted on 06/05/2004 9:04:11 PM PDT by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: txflake
I must protest seeing Kennedy and Reagan in the same thread as I protest seeing Clinton and Reagan in the same thread.

Well, fasten your seat belt because Clinton told MSNBC he would be at the funeral to pay his respects. Honestly, I don't begrudge him that. As an ex-president he should attend.

I wonder which foreign leaders will attend? I am very curious to know if Gorbachev will attend.

If anyone ever deserved a state funeral it is definitely Ronald Reagan.

60 posted on 06/05/2004 9:09:48 PM PDT by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: norcalvet

Jabber the Hut has a moment has a rare moment of moral clarity. A few brain cells must have survived his attempts to drown them in alcohol. I'm stunned.


61 posted on 06/05/2004 9:10:52 PM PDT by PsyOp (Post one for the Gipper... may he rest in peace.)
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To: norcalvet

The old murderer probably has finally said something that's true!


62 posted on 06/05/2004 9:13:54 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Polybius

The Swimmer is going to wake up in the morning with such a hangover and say, "I said what?!"


63 posted on 06/05/2004 9:17:58 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Azzurri

Glover's graceless remark is totally unjustifiable by any measure of ettiquette, be it political, demographical or professional.

What kind of a mother taught Glover manners appropriate for this time of grieving and extremity for the Reagan family? Obviously, either none or a sorry excuse excuse for one or else Glover is a disgrace to his mother's efforts.


64 posted on 06/05/2004 9:20:46 PM PDT by Radtechtravel (Proud member of vast right wing conspiracy since '92)
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To: BulletBobCo

This is the kind of crap I want to avoid. Yesterday they hated the man. Today they still hate him but, they have to lie so they will not look bad.


65 posted on 06/05/2004 9:20:55 PM PDT by Brimack34 (The media hates America. Hate them back)
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To: norcalvet

The Democrats don't dare attack this man now. It would be political suicide. The KNOW he is beloved.


66 posted on 06/05/2004 9:24:03 PM PDT by veronica (Sen. Robert Bryd has seen more hoods than Iraqi prisoners ever wore....)
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To: Ragirl

Don't miss the real intention of Teddy purpose: to lift the Kennedy name to the same plane of Reagan's by including JFK in the same light as Ronald Reagan.


67 posted on 06/05/2004 9:25:32 PM PDT by Radtechtravel (Proud member of vast right wing conspiracy since '92)
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To: norcalvet

Too bad Ronny Reagan the lifeguard wasn't standing near that Chappaquidick bridge that awful night. He surely could have saved poor Mary Jo from this Satyric sociopath.


68 posted on 06/05/2004 9:26:54 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: All

The Democraps (especially those in political office) know they can't attack President Reagan. Doing so would be political suicide. They'll leave that to their cronies like Danny Glover, the other idiots in Hollyweird, and the main stream media.


69 posted on 06/05/2004 9:27:48 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: norcalvet
wow

for maybe the first time in 30+ years Jabba the Hut actually speak truth if only for a few minutes!!!

70 posted on 06/05/2004 9:30:59 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: norcalvet

Kennedy's comments show that there is honor in him yet, while Glover's comments show that there is no honor left in him at all.


71 posted on 06/05/2004 9:32:20 PM PDT by Imal (With deepest respect and in loving memory of President Ronald Wilson Reagan, 1911-2004.)
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To: montag813

I just had a thought. My wife always tells me that things happen for a reason. What if Chappaquidick never happened? Would Kennedy have gone to win his party nomination and become president for two terms? President Reagan would have been too old to run. What a fix we'ed be in now.

This tinfoil is scratchy.


72 posted on 06/05/2004 9:40:44 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: m87339
I can't see those things in these extreme Leftists who have hurt so many of "their people" and all of America.

I can't either. How can people who've made a living off negativity, doom and gloom and smearing their political opponents have the same expectations as a man like Reagan who believed in the good of America, who spread hope and optimism as his legacy?

That's why I'm not worried about the November election. If Americans are foolish enough not to re-elect George Bush, he will still be a good and decent man who did what was right for this country. God bless him!

73 posted on 06/05/2004 9:46:44 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: norcalvet

The demoncraps may be evil, but they are not completely stupid. They know, even if they can't understand why, that Ronald Reagan was one of our nation's most beloved heroes and that most Americans are deeply saddened on this day.

Any disrespect they utter will come back to haunt them.

But if you believe for a minute that any of their condolences are genuine, than I suggest you think again. Behind closed doors they are popping chamgagne corks and laughing like loons.


74 posted on 06/05/2004 10:01:35 PM PDT by Ronin (We are in a war. The enemy is Islam. It's time we stopped pretending otherwise.)
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To: Cacique

Ping!


75 posted on 06/05/2004 10:17:22 PM PDT by Clemenza (Strolling along country roads with my baby...)
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To: norcalvet
Excuse me...? Is this for real? Does Teddy still have burning within him an ember of humanity? These are indeed the "End Times"...and there's a snowball settin' on the Devil's desk tonight.
76 posted on 06/05/2004 10:33:41 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: Dr Snide
"No rational plan", indeed! Of course the plan is not rational - to a globalist, that is.

To the greatest president ever, Ronald Reagan, rebuilding the eviscerated military he inherited from Jummy Carter was a priority.

To those who wish to give our nation away to the UN, however, having a strong military is as distastefull as having a nation with strong morals.

The greatest president ever, Ronald Reagan, possesed great moral strength, incredible self-determination, and an endearing public personna.

77 posted on 06/05/2004 11:32:05 PM PDT by boycottliberalhollywood.com (www.boycottliberalhollywood.com - www.twoamericas.us)
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To: Imal
While I watch Fox News, I see tribute after tribute being paid to Ronald Reagan. His friends, his political opponents, everybody. His leagacy will live on as long as America lives on.

When the likes of Danny Glover finally pass on to eternity, what sort of legacy will they leave behind? Who will stand up to honor them? What will they say? "Uh, he was really cool in those Lethal Weapon movies"? What of any lasting importance, what of any true substance, have Danny Glover, Liberal Hollywood, or liberalism at large, left society as a legacy? Nothing!

Ronald Reagan has done more in eight years as President than any other president has, and indeed, very few people in history. God bless the Reagan family, as Ronald Reagan has blessed us!

78 posted on 06/05/2004 11:45:33 PM PDT by boycottliberalhollywood.com (www.boycottliberalhollywood.com - www.twoamericas.us)
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To: norcalvet

79 posted on 06/05/2004 11:49:35 PM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: Azzurri
What a bitter jerk Glover turned out to be. Probably because he's not as successful as his Lethal Weapon co-star Mel Gibson.

Heh heh.

Rinse, repeat.

80 posted on 06/05/2004 11:50:13 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: adam_az

Out-f'ing-standing!


81 posted on 06/05/2004 11:51:05 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (06/07/04 - 1000 days since 09/11/01)
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To: Dave278

Bartleby.com is an online source for quotes. They list 6 from President Clinton. They list 161 from President Ronald Reagan.


82 posted on 06/05/2004 11:57:46 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (06/07/04 - 1000 days since 09/11/01)
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To: goldstategop
Reagan would still be great if no one said a word about him. Its that's obvious.


83 posted on 06/05/2004 11:58:05 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: norcalvet

I wonder how many others today, like me, sat down with their young children and told them who this great man was. If his passing away can be an impetus to a passing of the conservative torch to a new generation then he has once again helped to defeat those who abhor freedom.


84 posted on 06/06/2004 12:03:05 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (06/07/04 - 1000 days since 09/11/01)
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To: norcalvet

Teddy's right about Reagan winning the cold war but Teddy must be hitting the Sterno now.


85 posted on 06/06/2004 2:22:15 AM PDT by Wiggins
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To: norcalvet

It is also a sign of greatness to be able to give praise to your "enemy".


86 posted on 06/06/2004 3:15:08 AM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: norcalvet
his 'Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall' will be linked forever with President Kennedy's 'Ich bin ein Berliner.'

Who are you? And what did you do with the real Ted Kennedy?

87 posted on 06/06/2004 5:27:53 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: norcalvet

"Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass: "On foreign policy he will be honored as the president who won the Cold War,..."

The operative words here are "he will be honored as"; Kennedy did not say that Pres. Reagan, in fact, won the Cold War.


88 posted on 06/06/2004 6:07:38 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye ((Kerry is a flake))
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To: norcalvet; gilliam; doug from upland

How easy it is to forget that when Reagan was elected Teddy Kennedy sent former Senator John Tunney of California to the Kremlin to tell the leaders (and the KGB) not to worry. The Democrats would take care of Reagan. That Reagan won the Cold War is no thanks to Teddy Kennedy who opposed him every step of the way.


89 posted on 06/06/2004 7:10:15 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: norcalvet

The broken clock tolls noon.

Dan


90 posted on 06/06/2004 7:11:24 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: adam_az
The 1984 Kerry position paper is powerful stuff. I hadn't seen it before.

I felt it deserved a thread of its own, so I took the liberty of "stealing" it and posting it here.

91 posted on 06/06/2004 7:29:51 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina
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To: norcalvet

Wow. A moment of truth from the Swimmer.


92 posted on 06/06/2004 7:36:46 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: norcalvet
his 'Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall' will be linked forever with President Kennedy's 'Ich bin ein Berliner.'

Doesn't that mean, "I am a jelly doughnut" ??

93 posted on 06/06/2004 7:36:56 AM PDT by alley cat
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To: norcalvet
I can see I'm very much in the minority here... but the statement irked me. Ted just HAD to work in his brother and his big speech in Berlin. You know what, Ted? Maybe, just this once, this isn't about you or your family!!! Maybe just for today, we can focus on something other than the staggering contributions of the Kennedy Dynasty to America?

In one of my local papers this morning, I read this irritating snippet about how sure, Reagan won the Cold War, but all the other Presidents had first stricken it devastating blows... and in the list, cited Kennedy landing a man on the moon as defeating the Soviets' "humanistic hubris" or something like that. I know the moon landing was historically significant in terms of technological development competition, but I don't think it was a staggering blow to the Cold War (and the liberals who claim it is should consider its price tag while they carp about the Reagan defense budgets, shouldn't they?). It seemed as if even now, some commentators and liberals can't even cite President Reagan's accomplishments without working in a "but..." of some kind, and Ted Kennedy's statement struck me that way.... "but my brother said it first" kind of approach.

94 posted on 06/06/2004 7:54:33 AM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: Samwise

John Kerry: Wrong then. Wrong now.

I like that one!
95 posted on 06/06/2004 7:58:56 AM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: txflake

It's useful to emphasize contrast.


96 posted on 06/06/2004 8:04:55 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Yitgadal v'yitgadash Shmei Raba)
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To: GraceCoolidge
"I can see I'm very much in the minority here... but the statement irked me. Ted just HAD to work in his brother and his big speech in Berlin. You know what, Ted? Maybe, just this once, this isn't about you or your family!!! Maybe just for today, we can focus on something other than the staggering contributions of the Kennedy Dynasty to America?"

My sentiments exactly.

97 posted on 06/06/2004 8:46:49 AM PDT by the Deejay
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To: adam_az

This is a great find and probably should have its own thread.


98 posted on 06/06/2004 8:49:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( America is in war for its survival can't have a 9/10 al Querry elected!)
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To: The_Macallan
Was watching C-Span last night and couldn't believe some of the vicious, obnoxious callers and C-Span let most of them finish their attacks on Reagan and the Reagan years. I wondered why these obnoxious people were even watching!any of the coverage. I had to change the channel, just could not stand anymore vicious liberal callers.
99 posted on 06/06/2004 8:54:54 AM PDT by the Deejay
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To: norcalvet
I don't believe it. Hell must be frozen solid. I'm almost speechless. :-)
100 posted on 06/06/2004 8:57:25 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore, I am perfect.)
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