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Abiotic Theory of Oil Formation
The Environmental Literacy Council ^

Posted on 06/09/2004 9:15:38 PM PDT by narses

There is an alternative theory about the formation of oil and gas deposits that could change estimates of potential future oil reserves. According to this theory, oil is not a fossil fuel at all, but was formed deep in the Earth's crust from inorganic materials. The theory was first proposed in the 1950s by Russian and Ukranian scientists. Based on the theory, successful exploratory drilling has been undertaken in the Caspian Sea region, Western Siberia, and the Dneiper-Donets Basin.

The prevailing explanation for the formation of oil and gas deposits is that they are the remains of plant and animal life that died millions of years ago and were compressed by heat and pressure over millions of years. Russian and Ukranian geologists argue that formation of oil deposits requires the high pressures only found in the deep mantle and that the hydrocarbon contents in sediments do not exhibit sufficient organic material to supply the enormous amounts of petroleum found in supergiant oil fields.

The abyssal, abiotic theory of oil formation has received more attention in the West recently because of the work of retired Cornell astronomy professor Thomas Gold, who is known for development of several theories that were initially dismissed, but eventually proven true, including the existence of neutron stars. He has also been wrong, however; he was a proponent of the "steady state" theory of the universe, which has since been discarded for the "Big Bang" theory. Gold's theory of oil formation, which he expounded recently in a book entitled The Deep Hot Biosphere, is that hydrogen and carbon, under high temperatures and pressures found in the mantle during the formation of the Earth, form hydrocarbon molecules which have gradually leaked up to the surface through cracks in rocks. The organic materials which are found in petroleum deposits are easily explained by the metabolism of bacteria which have been found in extreme environments similar to Earth's mantle. These hyperthermophiles, or bacteria which thrive in extreme environments, have been found in hydrothermal vents, at the bottom of volcanoes, and in places where scientists formerly believed life was not possible. Gold argues that the mantle contains vast numbers of these bacteria.

The abiogenic origin of petroleum deposits would explain some phenomena that are not currently understood, such as why petroleum deposits almost always contain biologically inert helium. Based on his theory, Gold persuaded the Swedish State Power Board to drill for oil in a rock that had been fractured by an ancient meteorite. It was a good test of his theory because the rock was not sedimentary and would not contain remains of plant or marine life. The drilling was successful, although not enough oil was found to make the field commercially viable. The abiotic theory, if true, could affect estimates of how much oil remains in the Earth's crust.

The abiogenic origin theory of oil formation is rejected by most geologists, who argue that the composition of hydrocarbons found in commercial oil fields have a low content of 13C isotopes, similar to that found in marine and terrestrial plants; whereas hydrocarbons from abiotic origins such as methane have a higher content of 13C isotopes. In an April 2002 letter published in the science journal Nature, Barbara Sherwood Lollar and her colleagues from the Stable Isotope Lab at the University of Toronto reported their analysis of the Kidd Creek mine in Ontario. An unusual ratio of 13C isotopes and the presence of helium provided evidence of hydrocarbons with abiotic origins, but they argued that commercial gas reservoirs do not contain large amounts of hydrocarbons with a similar signature. Gold and other geologists who argue that there are significant amounts of oil from abiotic origins maintain that as oil seeps up through the layers of Earth closer to the surface, it mixes with oil from biological origins, and takes on its characteristics.

The American Association of Petroleum Geologists has scheduled a conference in July 2004 to review the evidence supporting the theories about the formation of oil. For more about the abiotic theory of oil formation, visit these websites:

The Drilling and Development of the Oil and Gas Fields in the Dneiper-Donets Basin This paper, written by V.A. Krayushkin, T.I. Tchebanenko, V.P. Klochko, Ye.S. Dvoryanin, and J.F. Kenney, is presented by the Ukrainian Institute of Geological Sciences, the Russian Academy of Sciences, and the Gas Resources Corporation and describes the exploration drilling that has taken place in the Dnieper-Donets Basin in Ukraine. Earlier papers on this subject are also available through this website.

Wired Magazine: "Fuel's Paradise" In this July 2000 Wired magazine interview, contributing editor Oliver Morton talks with Thomas Gold about the theory of abiotic oil formation and his career.

Thomas Gold: "The Origin of Methane (and Oil) in the Crust of the Earth" This 1993 paper was published by USGS as a part of a collection called The Future of Energy Gases. Cornell University host's Dr.Gold's website, which presents this paper and others describing the abiotic theory of oil formation.

"Considerations about Recent Predictions of Impending Shortages of Petroleum Evaluated from the Perspective of Modern Petroleum" This article by J.F. Kenney of the Joint Institute of the Physics of the Earth was orginally published in the June 1996 edition of Energy World, a publication of the British Institute of Petroleum. Presented through the California State University Northridge website, this article argues that reports concerning the impending oil shortage are inaccurate.

Explorer: Abiogenic Gas Debate This article by correspondent David Brown was published in the November 2002 edition of Explorer, a publication of the American Association of Petroleum Geologists. Though the article is dated in references to upcoming events, the author presents a well rounded explanation of the debate surrounding gas origin theories.


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1 posted on 06/09/2004 9:15:38 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses

This theory is rather old. Most geologists reject it as its predictions aren't often borne out. It doesn't explain the sulfur and nitrogen in oil nor why oil isn't found in the oldest rocks.


2 posted on 06/09/2004 9:20:06 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Willie Green; freebilly; cardinal4; old school; StACase; sibbel; Servant of the 9; BushCountry; ...

Oil forever ping!


3 posted on 06/09/2004 9:20:45 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Yep, it gets much more play here than it does in the scientific community; there really isn't much of a "debate."


4 posted on 06/09/2004 9:28:52 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: narses
The Drilling & Development of the Oil & Gas Fields in the Dnieper-Donets Basin

The modern Russian-Ukrainian theory of deep, abiotic petroleum origins is by no means simply an academic proposition. After its first enunciation by N. A. Kudryavtsev in 1951, the modern theory was extensively debated and exhaustively tested. Significantly, the modern theory not only withstood all tests put to it, but also it settled many previously unresolved problems in petroleum science, such as that of the intrinsic component of optical activity observed in natural petroleum, and also it has demonstrated new patterns in petroleum, previously unrecognized, such as the paleonological and trace-element characteristics of reservoirs at different depths. Most importantly, the modern Russian-Ukrainian theory of deep, abiotic petroleum origins has played a central role in the transformation of Russia (then the U.S.S.R.) from being a “petroleum poor” entity in 1951 to the largest petroleum producing and exporting nation on Earth.
(http://www.gasresources.net/DDBflds2.htm)
DKK
5 posted on 06/09/2004 9:31:28 PM PDT by LifeTrek
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Dear Doctor,

You obviously do not know what you are talking about, nor do you comprehend what you read.

What do you think they are talking about in the above article, if not the "oldest rocks"? The well in question was drilled in precambrian granite. Rocks don't get much older than that.


6 posted on 06/09/2004 9:33:29 PM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

The American Association of Petroleum Geologists has scheduled a conference in July 2004 to review the evidence supporting the theories about the formation of oil.
DKK


7 posted on 06/09/2004 9:36:11 PM PDT by LifeTrek
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To: narses
Well, I've often wondered about this "fossil" oil theory my self. I mean, there would have had to have been and awful lot of dinosaurs to decay into the amount of oil that we know exists, not even counting what we have used in the past 100 years.

Of course, I often wonder where all my extra coat hangers come from too...I think socks are the embryonic form of a coat hanger, 'cause everytime I lose a sock in the dryer, I find more coat hangers around. Hummmmmm
8 posted on 06/09/2004 9:36:42 PM PDT by FrankR
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To: FrankR
Well, I've often wondered about this "fossil" oil theory my self. I mean, there would have had to have been and awful lot of dinosaurs to decay into the amount of oil that we know exists, not even counting what we have used in the past 100 years.

There are no dinosaurs, or land animals of any kind, in oil. It's sort of interesting how a myth so completely wrong is so widespread.

It's made out of microscopic dead marine algae. The biomass of marine algae is beyond belief. Actually, if all the oil that ever formed still existed, gas would be a penny a gallon; the overwhelming majority of it has been destroyed or escaped to the surface; the key thing is getting it trapped underground.

9 posted on 06/09/2004 9:42:48 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: FrankR

I wonder why the dryer always gets blamed. How do we know it's not the washer or the hamper?


10 posted on 06/09/2004 9:46:59 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Freepmail me if you'd like to read one of my Christian historical romance novels!)
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To: narses
The problem with discussions like this is, that in order to keep it in lay terms, there is always a mixture of different products as though they were one.

Lay people think of oil as that stuff in the Pennzoil can they buy at Jiffy Lube, when, in reality, that kind of oil does not exist below certain depths across the world, and that depth depends on the geothermal gradient which exists there.
At least, there has always been a definitive line proven by exploration.

Below those depths we find natural gas and condensate, which is a different product than oil.

11 posted on 06/09/2004 9:55:33 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: narses
If oil is made up of dead dinosaurs, how the heck did the poor defunct dinosaurs commute to work? And how did they fuel their Coleman stoves?

If this post upsets or irritates you, it's probably because you're jealous of my tagline!

12 posted on 06/09/2004 10:20:31 PM PDT by Dark Glasses and Corncob Pipe (14, 15, 16...whatever!)
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To: narses

I've been told by geologists that it exists, but getting to it would be difficult to do and cause problems later (like overpopulation, pollution, market power balance changes, etc.).


13 posted on 06/09/2004 10:56:08 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1098993/posts
Oil At New Highs - Opinions wanted on synthetic oil
MSNBC ^ | 3-16-04 | Jason Rines
This seems like this could be our ace in the hole...
Anything into oil
Stephen den Beste on this process
Anything Into Oil
http://www.discover.com/issues/may-03/features/featoil/
http://www.changingworldtech.com/home.html

Potential oil supply refill?

The world has more oil not less

The Origin of Methane (and Oil) in the Crust of the Earth
Thomas Gold
U.S.G.S. Professional Paper 1570, The Future of Energy Gases, 1993

PETROLEUM RESERVES EVALUATED WITH MODERN PETROLEUM SCIENCE

Another Washington Post article here

Oil Fields' Free Refill - More oil than we thought (maybe)

14 posted on 06/09/2004 11:51:13 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: FrankR

There was a science fiction short story many years ago with the premise that all those extra hangers, socks, etc. that accumulate are a form of mimicry by alien life forms, like a walking stick insect. Wish I could remember the author, Laumer, Leiber, Kornbluth, Sturgeon, hmmmmm...story had a somewhat sinister twist too, watch out for those spare socks!


15 posted on 06/10/2004 12:25:38 AM PDT by skepsel
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To: narses

It has huge policy implications.

If oil is finite, it makes sense to save our oil and get the middle east to pump their's.

However, if oil is replenishable or flows underneath the earth's surface, then we should pump like crazy.


16 posted on 06/10/2004 1:53:26 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Strategerist; All
You should know that there is a significant group of people here who, sadly, totally believe that T.Gold's theories on abiotic oil formation are the gospel truth. There have been several threads where some of the proponents of that THEORY have outrightly become acerbic to anyone who even says T.Gold might be wrong.

In fact T.Gold is considered a crackpot by many in the industry. The only thing that gives him some credibility is that he can say he was 'right' in the neutron star debate (although he does keep quiet about the things he has been wrong about).

Anyways, according to most estimates current world needs for oil will rise from 80 to 140 million barrels by 2035. It will be obvious by then if T.Gold's 'theories' will pan out as true or not.

I'd bet they are false.

Why? Well, there is something called the 'water cut.' That is when water pumped into oil wells to help in the extraction of oil, and when the oil is removed a certain portion of it is water. Most wells in M.E have been getting a higher water cut level as they pump more H2O to aid in oil extraction. How come oil is not 'seeping' up from the mantle and filling them up?

I am familiar with several oil wells in Texas and Oklahoma. How come those wells are not being 'filled up from below?'

I personally think that T.Gold studied one neutron star too many! And most in the petro-chemical industry concur.

17 posted on 06/10/2004 2:48:29 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear missiles: The ultimate Phallic symbol.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
I wonder why the dryer always gets blamed. How do we know it's not the washer or the hamper?

We are clearly guilty of appliance profiling.

18 posted on 06/10/2004 2:59:18 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (Life is a quagmire. Get used to it.)
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To: FrankR

((((PING))))


19 posted on 06/10/2004 3:08:25 AM PDT by southland
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To: Doctor Stochastic

What stupidity. We can create oil from organic garbage, lets see these bright boys create oil from rocks.


20 posted on 06/10/2004 4:00:08 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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