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Reagan Mourned in Former 'Evil Empire'
The Moscow Times ^ | Monday, June 7, 2004. | Vladimir Isachenkov and Jim Heintz

Posted on 06/10/2004 9:29:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Monday, June 7, 2004. Page 1.

Reagan Mourned in Former 'Evil Empire'By Vladimir Isachenkov and Jim Heintz
The Associated Press


AP

Reagan and Gorbachev saying farewell after talks in Reykjavik, Iceland, in 1986.

He stunned the Soviet Union with his tough rhetoric, calling it an "evil empire" whose leaders gave themselves the "right to commit any crime." His famed "Star Wars" program drew the Soviets into a costly arms race they couldn't afford. His 1987 declaration to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev at the Berlin Wall -- "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" -- was the ultimate challenge of the Cold War.

Ronald Reagan's determination to destroy communism and the Soviet Union was a hallmark of his eight-year presidency, carried out through a harsh nuclear policy toward Moscow that softened only slightly when Gorbachev came to office.

Reagan, who died Saturday at the age of 93, is vividly remembered in Russia today as the force that precipitated the Soviet collapse.

"Reagan bolstered the U.S. military might to ruin the Soviet economy, and he achieved his goal," said Gennady Gerasimov, who served as top spokesman for the Soviet Foreign Ministry during the 1980s.

Reagan's agenda toward Moscow started shortly after the start of his first term -- and marked a major departure from the mild detente of the Jimmy Carter administration.

In 1981, Reagan backed his rhetoric with a trillion dollar defense buildup. U.S.-Soviet arms control talks collapsed, and the two nations targeted intermediate-range nuclear missiles at each other across the Iron Curtain in Europe.

The deployment of the U.S. missiles in Europe rattled the Kremlin's nerves, because of the shorter time they needed to reach targets in the Soviet Union compared to intercontinental missiles deployed in the United States.

In an even bigger shock to the Kremlin, Reagan in 1983 launched an effort to build a shield against intercontinental ballistic missiles involving space-based weapons.

The Strategic Defense Initiative, or SDI, dubbed "Star Wars," dumped the previous doctrine of Mutual Assured Destruction that assumed that neither side would start a nuclear war because it would not be able to avoid imminent destruction.

Even though Reagan's "Star Wars" never led to the deployment of an actual missile shield, it drew the Soviets into a costly effort to mount a response. Many analysts agree that the race drained Soviet coffers and triggered the economic difficulties that sped up the Soviet collapse in 1991.

"Reagan's SDI was a very successful blackmail," Gerasimov said in an interview. "The Soviet Union tried to keep up pace with the U.S. military buildup, but the Soviet economy couldn't endure such competition."

Gorbachev said Sunday he was distressed by Reagan's death.

"I take very hard the death of Ronald Reagan, a man whom by fate sat with me in perhaps the most difficult years at the end of the 20th century," Gorbachev told reporters at the Gorbachev Foundation, a non-governmental analytical institute that he has run since 1992.

Despite Reagan's often-forceful statements against the Soviet Union, Gorbachev said he also had a personal warmth that bolstered their relations. "In terms of human qualities, he and I had, you would say, communicativeness, and this helped us carry on normally," Gorbachev said.

"But when you talk about friendly relations in politics, it's not the friendship of schoolmates, of the Arbat," he said.

"I deem Ronald Reagan a great president, with whom the Soviet leadership was able to launch a very difficult but important dialogue," Gorbachev said earlier Sunday on Ekho Moskvy radio, Interfax reported.

Gorbachev was quoted as calling Reagan "a statesman who, despite all disagreements that existed between our countries at the time, displayed foresight and determination to meet our proposals halfway and change our relations for the better."

Gorbachev listed Reagan's accomplishments as helping to "stop the nuclear race, start scrapping nuclear weapons, and arrange normal relations between our countries."

"I do not know how other statesmen would have acted at that moment, because the situation was too difficult. Reagan, whom many considered extremely rightist, dared to make these steps, and this is his most important deed," he was quoted as saying.

Yelena Bonner, the widow of Soviet dissident Nobel Peace Prize winner Andrei Sakharov, praised Reagan for his tough course toward the Soviet Union.

"I consider Ronald Reagan one of the greatest U.S. presidents since the World War II because of his staunch resistance to communism and his efforts to defend human rights," Bonner said in a telephone interview from her home in Boston. "Reagan's policy was consistent and precise, and he had a great talent of choosing the right people for his administration." Former Soviet dissident Vladimir Bukovsky, 61, remembered Reagan fondly for his humor and his toughness. "His phrase, 'evil empire,' became a household word in Russia," said Bukovsky, who now lives in Cambridge, England. "Russians like a straightforward person, be he enemy or friend. They despise a wishy-washy person."

Retired General Vladimir Dvorkin said that trying to field a response to Reagan's Star Wars had "certainly contributed" to the Soviet economic demise but argued it didn't play the decisive role.

"The Soviet economy was extremely inefficient and nothing could save it," said Dvorkin, a senior Soviet arms control negotiator during the 1980s.

But Bonner said her husband -- who had played a key role in designing Soviet nuclear weapons -- believed that deploying U.S. missiles in Europe was necessary to bring the Soviet rulers back to the arms control talks. In December 1987, Reagan and Gorbachev signed a treaty that for the first time eliminated the entire class of intermediate-range missiles.

"Reagan and Gorbachev helped end the Cold War," Gerasimov said.

Associated Press writer Gerald Nadler in New York contributed to this report.



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coldwar; gorbachev; reagan; ronaldreagan; russia
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To: lonevoice
Thanks for the pic.

Two soulmates, one last touch.

41 posted on 06/10/2004 11:04:30 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Let`s not forget how the lefties were screaming bloody hell when all this was going on, especially the OJ of the Senate, killer Ted Kennedy, something he is doing all over again to this day. My apologies to Freepers from Mass. but I would say you have a tremendous problem with the idiots up there who keep re-electing that sick bastard. I mean he`s only been Senator for over 40 freggin years, and in 40 years the people of Mass still can`t find one guy more suitable than that nut!?? This time he`s even worse because now he directs his rantings to the world against his own country, if you can call the US his own country anymore. "The Iraq war is a farce" Just lovely Teddy, that should get us some help. A guy who kills a woman and gets away with it, is a full blown alcoholic and is nothing short of a traitor..Yeah, this guy should be in the Senate. Holy sh*t!


42 posted on 06/10/2004 11:06:19 PM PDT by stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims (I`m still waiting for the protests against terrorism.)
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To: Askel5
He out-Russianed the Russians.

Not too shabby.

43 posted on 06/10/2004 11:12:34 PM PDT by nunya bidness ( You and I have a rendezvous with destiny.)
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To: nunya bidness

C-SPAN is showing a neat session titled the Life of Reagan,.. peggy noonan is talking right now, Ed meese spoke earlier.


44 posted on 06/10/2004 11:19:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: sarasmom

I agree. Doing so will mean their election chance is toast.


45 posted on 06/10/2004 11:22:53 PM PDT by NZerFromHK
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To: chase19
That's the kind of guy who doesn't want people to mention that before Rome's fall... the men were spending way too much time drinking lead-tainted wine and peeking under each other's togas to run their empire.
46 posted on 06/10/2004 11:32:35 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

bump.


47 posted on 06/10/2004 11:57:32 PM PDT by ambrose (President Bush on Reagan: "His Work is Done and Now a Shining City Awaits Him")
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To: TheOtherOne
Nobel, Schmobel . . . they gave that thing to Arafat, it ain't worth shit now.

And Jimmuh Carter, the Great Failure. Democrats cradle and nurture failure, and detest success. Jimmuh Carter fudged around with Iran for 4 months. A day into his term as President, Reagan announced the hostages were free and coming home.

48 posted on 06/11/2004 1:43:53 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: JDoutrider

The massive outpouring of respect and love for this great man is much more rewarding than that POS Nobel Prize.


49 posted on 06/11/2004 2:10:18 AM PDT by Levante
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To: Torie

brilliant pebbles?


50 posted on 06/11/2004 3:05:58 AM PDT by hershey
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To: mylife; Torie; Cincinatus' Wife
It's Brilliant Pebbles: Another Version of Starwars, from the Oakland Tribune 9-10-02. By Ian Hoffman.
51 posted on 06/11/2004 3:29:33 AM PDT by risk
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"the mild detente of the Jimmy Carter administration"

And that's putting it mildly...........

52 posted on 06/11/2004 3:31:39 AM PDT by dokmad
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To: risk
That was tested on the lunar orbital mapping misssion Clementine (DoD/NASA 1994 mission)=

Clinton line-item vetoed Clementine II.

53 posted on 06/11/2004 3:49:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: risk

ted postol loves to dismiss things that he has never worked on. He also loves to point out weakness in design to the world. I wish that clown would either help or zip it.


54 posted on 06/11/2004 4:27:07 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Torie

The best one was the X-ray laser satellites that could knock down many rising ICBMsin one shot.


55 posted on 06/11/2004 5:55:48 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: Stagerite

They give it to leftists who say "peace" a lot.


56 posted on 06/11/2004 5:57:40 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: chase19
some kind of Diety

Is that the god of lite?calories?

57 posted on 06/11/2004 5:59:37 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bump for later


58 posted on 06/11/2004 6:02:09 AM PDT by Inyokern
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To: Torie

Much of the Roman Empire was builtby freemarket conquest. he Republic had no army. Rich citizens raised armies and financed their outfit then went on conquest expeditions in the manner of joint stock companies. The soldiers were paid by shares in the plunder which also paid for the whole enterprise if it succeeded. The conquerors then set up tributary states to provide an income for the entrepreneur and taxes for Rome and installed their proxies as rulers. Eventually these states were turned over to or taken over by Rome directly.


59 posted on 06/11/2004 6:06:51 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Nicaragua, El Salvador, Poland & the Eastern Block, Russians, former Russians states

These staes are considered by folks on the left as being illegitimate because they were wrenched from their proper place as parts of the Soviet Empire. Their attitudes therefore don't merit notice.

60 posted on 06/11/2004 6:09:27 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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