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STOP MICHAEL MOORE FROM PROFITTING IN HIS ATTACKS ON AMERICA & OUR MILITARY
Moveamericaforward.org ^

Posted on 06/17/2004 9:57:35 AM PDT by truthandlife

“Bash America” filmmaker Michael Moore is about to unleash an attack on the U.S. Military, the heroic men and women of the Armed Forces and our Commander-In-Chief via his film “Fahrenheit 9/11.”

Inexplicably, more than 1,000 theaters have indicated they will proudly broadcast what The Guardian calls an “anti-war/anti-Bush” film – beginning June 25th. And the number keeps growing each day. The goal of the film is abundantly clear: to undermine the war on terrorism.

Moore has said the following about the film:

“Half the movie is about Iraq – we were able to get film crews embedded with American troops without them knowing it was Michael Moore. They are totally f***ed.”

After it was pre-screened, one Blame American First viewer cried, “It made me wanna burn my passport.”

Apparently there are dollar signs in their eyes too.

Michael Moore and his anti-American film distributors are hoping to cash in to the tune of millions of dollars and also change U.S. politics. One British paper noted that “Moore hopes that it will bring down the U.S. government.”

So why are mainstream movie theaters involved in promoting a political advertisement that defames our military, insults our troops and attempts to undermine the public’s support for the War on Terror?

Why are movie theaters showing political propaganda that should be governed by Federal Elections Commission regulations on campaign finance?

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*** HOW TO FIGHT BACK *** *** AGAINST MICHAEL MOORE ***

Move America Forward – the national organization working to support our troops and the war on terrorism – has compiled contact information for the leading movie executives in the business.

If you don’t want to see them promoting anti-American propaganda then tell these executives so directly.

Time is short – we must act now to have our voices heard in time to make a difference.

Help us get messages from millions of Americans sent to these film industry executives. Tell others who would be equally outraged by this anti-American movie to visit http://www.MoveAmericaForward.org and join our efforts.

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MORE COMMENTS BY AND ABOUT MICHAEL MOORE AND HIS FILM “FAHRENHEIT 9/11”

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“The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not ‘insurgents’ or ‘terrorists’ or ‘The Enemy.’ They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow – and they will win.”

-- Michael Moore in his message posted on his website, April 14, 2004

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Fahrenheit 9/11 was described as “incredibly superficial and misleading treatment at times.”

-- Lou Lumenick, New York Post

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“It’s representative of the fact that Michael Moore doesn’t always give the whole story and he’s a master of the misleading.”

-- Congressman Mark Kennedy (Minnesota)

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From the British newspaper, The Guardian:

“Moore was unequivocal about his desire to do everything in his power to help oust President George Bush in this November’s elections.

‘We thought, We cannot leave this to the Democrats this time to f**k it up and lose.’

[Responding to reports that some in the Disney Corporation found the movie unacceptably political and would not therefore distribute the film, Moore said]:

“I won’t let that happen and neither will Harvey Weinstein. People will see this film by hook or crook. I will get this out if it means breaking the law or committing an act of civil disobedience.”

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Moore has already defamed the passengers who were on board the airplanes hijacked on September 11th:

“The kind of people who fly in airplanes want someone else to clean up their mess; that’s why they let hijackers take the plane.

“The passengers on September 11 were scaredy-cats, because they were mostly white.”

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“With Moore's customary blend of humor and horror, "Fahrenheit 9/11" accuses the Bush camp of stealing the 2000 election, overlooking terrorism warnings before September 11 and fanning fears of more attacks to secure Americans' support for the Iraq war.”

-- From the cable television network, CNN

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During the presidential primaries, Michael Moore referred to George W. Bush as, among other things, a "deserter.”

Even ABC's Peter Jennings – hardly a fan of President Bush – condemned Moore’s characterization of Bush as a ‘deserter.’ "That’s a reckless charge not supported by the facts.”


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It’s time to take action to stop Michael Moore’s “Bash America” film, “Fahrenheit 9/11.”

Michael Moore has attacked our troops, attacked our Commander in Chief and attacked the victims of 9/11 saying:  “The passengers on September 11 were scaredy-cats, because they were mostly white.”

Moore has sought to undermine our military saying that “The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not ‘insurgents’ or ‘terrorists’ or ‘The Enemy.’  They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow – and they will win.”

Now Michael Moore has a new movie coming out, “Fahrenheit 9/11” which according to one British newspaper, Moore “hopes that it will bring down the U.S. government.”

This movie is nothing more than a political campaign advertisement against the war on terrorism, our troops and President Bush.

So why on earth are ANY movie theaters showing this film?  “Fahrenheit 9/11” should be shown as a recruiting video for Al-Qaeda, not in our movie theaters.

Please join us in telling the movie theater companies below your opinion as it relates to their attempt to profit from the showing of “Fahrenheit 9/11.” 

Since we are the customers of the American movie theatres it is important for us to speak up loudly and tell the industry executives that we don’t want this misleading and grotesque movie being shown at our local cinema.

We need these executives to be overwhelmed with letters, phone calls and FAXes… in addition to emails.  Sending an email alone is not enough – since in some cases an aide can easily click “DELETE.”

We would like to thank those individuals at Lions Gate Entertainment and IFC Films who support our efforts.

Note:  Please contact us via-email at:  info@MoveAmericaForward.org to report a movie theater playing “Fahrenheit 9/11” which is not listed below.


National Chains & Local Theaters
Who Are Planning to Show “Fahrenheit 9/11”


Loews Cineplex Entertainment

*** ALREADY PROMOTING the upcoming release of “Fahrenheit 9/11”on their website ***

brian_blatchley@loewscpx.com
michael_norris@loewscpx.com
kerry_moots@loewscpx.com
John_mccauley@loewscpx.com
john_walker@loewscpx.com
maura_Campbell@loewscpx.com

Loews Cineplex Entertainment, Inc.
711 Fifth Avenue, 11th Floor
New York, NY 10022
Phone: 646-521-6000


Landmark Theaters

lorim@landmarktheatres.com
MattL@landmarktheatres.com
dianea@landmarktheatres.com
hughw@landmarktheatres.com
magnolia@landmarktheatres.com
comments@landmarktheatres.com


Cinema Arts Theaters

Send Email Via Website:
http://www.cinemaartstheatre.com/pages.php?pg=contactus

Phone: 703-978-6853


The Little Theatre

info@little-theatre.com
marketing@little-theatre.com


240 East Avenue Rochester, NY 14604
Phone: 585-232-3906
Fax: 585-423-9912


Drexel Theatres Group

info@drexel.net
webmaster@drexel.net

300 Marconi Blvd., Suite 203
Columbus, OH 43215
Phone: 614-231-1050


Camera Cinemas

Cameranet@aol.com

P.O. Box 720728
San Jose, CA 95172-0728
Phone: 408-998-3022
Fax: (408) 294-3300


Rialto Theatre, Corp.

info@rialtoarts.com

Rialto Theatre Corporation
172 Main Street, Ridgefield Park, NJ 07660
Phone: 201-994-0618


Rialto Cinemas Lakeside

info@rialtocinemas.com

551 Summerfield Road
Santa Rosa, CA 95405
Phone: 707-539-9771


The Savoy Theater

film@savoytheater.com

The Savoy Theater
26 Main Street
Montpelier, VT 05602


National Chains Who Have Yet To Decide
Whether They Will Show “Fahrenheit 9/11”


Regal Entertainment Group

dgurin@regalcinemas.com
mcampbell@regalcinemas.com
amiles@regalcinemas.com
gdunn@regalcinemas.com
pbrandow@regalcinemas.com
barry.brown@regalcinemas.com
rwinograd@regalcinemedia.com
robbya@regalcinemas.com
kevink@regalcinemas.com
ddelaria@regalcinemas.com

Regal Entertainment Group
9110 East Nichols Avenue, Suite 200
Centennial, CO 80112
Phone: 303-792-3600
Fax: 865-922-3188


AMC Theaters

gslayton@amctheatres.com
gthyer@amctheatres.com
vdaniels@amctheatres.com
mcook@amctheatres.com
Mmcdonald@amctheatres.com
Jmcdonald@amctheatres.com
Psingleton@amctheatres.com
Jbeynon@amctheatres.com
Kconnor@amctheatres.com

AMC Theaters
920 Main
Kansas City, MO 64105
Phone: 816-221-4000
Fax: 816-480-4617


Carmike Cinemas

fred@carmike.com
philip@carmike.com
film@carmike.com
do07@carmike.com
do12@carmike.com
do14@carmike.com

Carmike Cinemas
1301 First Avenue
Columbus, GA 31901
Phone: 706-576-3400


Century Theatres

Jacque_clark@centurytheatres.com
Chris_OKelley@CenturyTheatres.com
Nancy_Klasky@centurytheatres.com
David_shesgreen@centurytheatres.com
Victor_Castillo@centurytheatres.com

Century Theatres
150 Pelican Way
San Rafael, CA 94901
Phone: 415-448-8457
Fax: 415-448-8358


Mann Theatres

srodriguez@manntheatres.com
jhebert@manntheatres.com
info@manntheatres.com
comments@manntheatres.com
rjansson@manntheatres.com

Mann Theatres
16530 Ventura Boulevard, Suite 500
Encino, California 91436
Phone: 818-784-6266


National Amusements

jhanson@national-amusements.com
mdixon@national-amusements.com
operations@national-amusements.com

National Amusements
200 Elm Street
Dedham, MA 02026
Phone: 781-461-1600
Fax: 781-407-0052


Crown Theatres, L.P.

jwelman@crowntheatres.com
hcleveland@crowntheatres.com
cdugger@crowntheatres.com
zcole@crowntheatres.com

64 North Main Street
South Norwalk, CT 06854
Phone: 800-932-2054
Fax: 203-846-9828


Goodrich Quality Theatres

bmcmannis@gqti.com
mjohnson@gqti.com
Goodrich@gqti.com

Goodrich Quality Theaters
4417 Broadmoor SE
Grand Rapids, MI 49512
Phone: 616-698-7733
FAX: 616-698-7220


Kerasotes Theaters

dkerasotes@kerasotes.com
tjohnson@kerasotes.com
kjohnson@kerasotes.com

Kerasotes Theaters
224 N. Des Plaines
Suite 200
Chicago, IL 60661
PHONE: 312-775-3160
FAX: 312-258-9943


Marcus Theatres

joanvoelzke@marcuscorp.com
stevemarcus@marcuscorp.com
bruceolson@marcuscorp.com

The Marcus Corp
100 East Wisconsin Avenue, Suite 1900
Milwaukee, WI 53202
Phone: (414) 905-1000
Fax: (414) 272-0669


Wallace Theaters

ghill@wallacetheaters.com
marketing@wallacetheaters.com
service@wallacetheaters.com

Wallace Theaters
919 SW Taylor
Portland, OR 97205
Phone: 503-221-7090
Fax: 503-796-0229


Consolidated Theatres

astone@consolidatedth.com
customerservice@consolidatedth.com
ctortolano@pacifictheatres.com

Consolidated Theatres
5970 Fairview Road
Suite 600
Charlotte, NC 28210
PHONE: 704-554-1695
FAX: 704-554-1696


Clearview Cinemas

cdougher@clearcin.com
wsalisch@clearcin.com
dlewis1@clearcin.com

Clearview Cinemas
97 Main Street
Chatham, NJ 07928
PHONE: 908-918-2000
FAX: 973-377-4303


We'd like to thank the great work being done by the following websites which expose the misleading and un-American tactics of "Domestic Enemy" Michael Moore:

http://www.moorelies.com/
http://www.pabaah.com
http://www.moorewatch.com/
http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/
http://www.mooreexposed.com/
http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/


1 posted on 06/17/2004 9:57:36 AM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife
Man, you've put a lot of time into this haven't you...
How 'bout we just not go to the movie...
If the attendance is down the first week, the theaters where it is showing will pull the movie anyway...
2 posted on 06/17/2004 10:06:03 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: truthandlife

The Michael Moore PR machine thanks you.


3 posted on 06/17/2004 10:06:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: kellynla

No I did not put a lot of time and effort into this. Just copied some source code from another website.


4 posted on 06/17/2004 10:11:19 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: cripplecreek

He needs to be given the silent treatment, no response ., is required, hes the bore of the century. the more he rants on the better.


5 posted on 06/17/2004 10:20:50 AM PDT by lillybet
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To: truthandlife

Does anyone have a list of where and when the movie is premiering/playing? It would be an excellent freep opportunity.


6 posted on 06/17/2004 10:30:45 AM PDT by God luvs America (Support Our Troops....Don't vote for Kerry!)
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To: kellynla

It isn't going to be in many theaters at least.


7 posted on 06/17/2004 10:37:27 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: rwfromkansas

I haven't paid much attention but I believe I read somewhere that around 400 theaters nationwide...

And I would bet that it will be pulled after the first week...that's why Moore is out pushing it...

It's definitely not going to be another "Passion" that's for sure. LOL


8 posted on 06/17/2004 10:41:23 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: truthandlife
‘We thought, We cannot leave this to the Democrats this time to f**k it up and lose.’

So who are "we", and if you are not Democrats, then who the hell are you?

I find these quotes to be quite troubling.

9 posted on 06/17/2004 10:45:46 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: truthandlife
These protests guarantee even more money in Moore's pockets.

If conservatives would just say the film is dishonest and therefore not worthy of comment, it would have died a much quieter death.

Once again, we are our own worst enemy.
10 posted on 06/17/2004 10:46:21 AM PDT by sharktrager (George Clooney has rubber nipples.)
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To: God luvs America
Yo protest, the media reports and Moore gets yet another free commercial.
11 posted on 06/17/2004 10:47:25 AM PDT by sharktrager (George Clooney has rubber nipples.)
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To: God luvs America
I think I'll dig out my old sign and spruce it up ...

Al Qaeda
FAN CLUB
---->

Support U.S.Troops
HERE
|
V

... and go stand in front of my local theater.

The last time I used it against 350 local anti-war protesters, I stood alone and stole the front page photo and 25% of the story in our Anchorage paper, from THEIR Rally.

Cars and trucks were swerving as they caught sight of my sign across the street from the assembled DumbocRATS and clueless University Peaceniks. Frowns and angry faces in traffic turned into smiles and horn blasts and thumbs-up for me. When I got home a little old lady had left a VM thanking and God Blessing me. (THAT was my best reward)

I walked away from the experience knowing I had made a difference ... I really put the screws to the local Marxist/peace movement that day, with all their humongous handpainted earth posters, and BLOOD for Oil posters and costumed pigs, and devils w/ GW masks, etc etc and a PA filled with local leftist-luminaries.

It was especially sweet for me since I was aquainted with many of the organizers.

I didn't stand out there with an angry face, screaming [this time] ... instead I was laughing and waving and inviting the passers-by to head across the street and join Hanoi Jane Fonda at the sign-in table. That sure left the late arrivers with quizzical looks. More laughs for me!!

Most fun I've EVER had at a protest [though I do not recommend protesting alone, for obvious reasons]

I'm convinced that sarcasm, wit and humor will come out on top at a Protest Rally if you can just find the right combination ... makes the other side look foolish and laughable.

BTW I found the top part of my al Qaeda sign idea right here on FR, thanks again to an unknown FReeper.

12 posted on 06/17/2004 12:17:58 PM PDT by CIBvet (It's about preserving OUR Borders, OUR Language and OUR American Culture)
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To: sharktrager

I remember when most here said nobody should say anything negative about the Passion until they saw it and made up their own minds. Different this time I guess.


13 posted on 06/17/2004 1:36:58 PM PDT by sakic
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To: truthandlife

I'm sure Mr. Moore appreciates your opposition more than you might ever know. He is an incredible narcissist, and thrives on conflict. So much so that when he doesn't find it, he invents it.

As with all breeds of troll, of which Moore is a particularly repugnant breed, the more you fight him, the stronger he gets. For a time, he may revel in his ill-gotten vainglory, but his star will soon fade, because he is a one-trick pony.

The fact that less than half of the theaters that originally planned to show Moore's film are actually doing so has far more to do with economics than concern about controversy. Some of the big money-makers in film history packed in crowds while protesters picketed outside.

Those who are not easily amused are already growing weary of hearing Moore sing the same old tired song. Contrary to popular myth, most people are smart enough to see through Moore's puerile propaganda. The ones that can't never will.

But even Joe Average is catching on to what Moore is really all about, and if you listen, you can hear most of America yawning at the news of another Moore movie. Everyone not yawning, whether they are for or against Moore, is nothing more than a customer or an accomplice. That includes both sycophants and protesters alike.

Trust me, he loves it when people get mad and protest against him. It makes him feel important, gives him valuable free publicity and allows him to bill himself as a "controversial" "documentarian" who knows how to "strike a nerve".


For my part, I've decided not to waste any more time on him than necessary, and recommend you do the same. But if you wish to protest and oppose him, that's your right, it's a noble thought and if it's worthwhile to you, then by all means go for it with my blessing.

FRegards,

Imal

(And for the record, there's only one "t" in "profitting".)


14 posted on 06/17/2004 1:39:41 PM PDT by Imal (Bill Clinton was the man who brought the dignity of The Jerry Springer Show to the U.S. presidency.)
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To: sakic
In this case I see a clear reason to be critical because the basic theory, that Bush is closely tied to bin Laden, is seriously flawed. Bin Laden has some 600 "immediate family members" by our standards. It's hardly fair to sat ties to any of them are the same as being tied to Osama.

That said, just as happened with DU, conservatives are guaranteeing the success of their enemies because they insist on drawing attention to their message.
15 posted on 06/17/2004 2:15:34 PM PDT by sharktrager (George Clooney has rubber nipples.)
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To: truthandlife

The response from Loews to my complaint:

Dear XXXXXXXX:

I would like to thank you for taking the time to write us with your concerns about the film "Farenheit 911". Please be assured that we respect our guest's opinions. Loews
Cineplex Entertainment is not responsible for the content of the movies that we show, but rather the presentation of them.

It is our goal to provide a wide array of entertainment options to our many patrons, who come from all different walks of life and represent many different tastes in filmed
entertainment.

Thank you again for writing to Loews Cineplex Entertainment.

Regards,

Arthur Luiz
Guest Services Manager


16 posted on 06/17/2004 2:22:39 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: truthandlife; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; LaDivaLoca; Fawnn; Bethbg79; bentfeather; ...

"It’s time to take action to stop Michael Moore’s "Bash America” film, “Fahrenheit 9/11.” PING


Stop FOX News from promoting Fahrenheit 9/11

GAG ALERT!
FOX NEWS "fair and balanced" review
'Fahrenheit 9/11' Gets Standing Ovation
Tuesday, June 15, 2004
By Roger Friedman
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,122680,00.html



17 posted on 06/17/2004 2:51:48 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Free Republic, where you get the REAL stories that the media refuses to carry!)
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To: Imal

......."But if you wish to protest and oppose him, that's your right, it's a noble thought and if it's worthwhile to you, then by all means go for it with my blessing. "

The problem with this is that all it does is call attention to the movie and thereby people will want to see what all the fuss is about. The old adage of things that are forbidden are always more intriguing would probably fit here. I tend to agree with your first sentence about Moore appreciating and thriving on opposition.


18 posted on 06/17/2004 3:13:55 PM PDT by mupcat
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To: mupcat; Imal; All
"I tend to agree with your first sentence about Moore appreciating and thriving on opposition."

I bet he loves FOX NEWS plugging his movie with a great review.
FOX NEWS review in post 17
19 posted on 06/17/2004 3:37:28 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Free Republic, where you get the REAL stories that the media refuses to carry!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping. I sure am sick of hearing about this guy and this movie. I sure wouldn't waste my money on it!


20 posted on 06/17/2004 3:40:28 PM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to remain silent!!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Alouette; SJackson

BTTT


21 posted on 06/17/2004 3:44:30 PM PDT by Yehuda (http://PostNineEleven.blogspot.com/)
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To: All

To those who say ignore it ... let me ask you something.

Did the same tactic work when CBS was going to show that Reagan-bashing movie?

Did "ignore it and it will go away" work then?

Frankly, I think it's time conservatives stopped acting like such pansies and start to push back against these liars and distorters of truth. We have been TOO nice for TOO long! Michael Moore can make his money from the DVD sales of this piece of trash but I doubt that anyone will take what this loser has to say serious because HE IS SO NEGATIVE!

Thankfully, in my city, there is only ONE theater currently (and I know that could change) that's playing this filth and it's a theater I wouldn't waste money at anyway. It's one of those small ones where you'd expect left-wing nonsense to play.


22 posted on 06/17/2004 4:02:51 PM PDT by Sister_T (Democrats AND The Partisan Press are the REAL enemies to freedom in the world!)
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To: truthandlife; Mrs Zip; BOBWADE
So why are mainstream movie theaters involved in promoting a political advertisement that defames our military, insults our troops and attempts to undermine the public’s support for the War on Terror?

Why are movie theaters showing political propaganda that should be governed by Federal Elections Commission regulations on campaign finance?

For the money. America be damned is their cry.

23 posted on 06/17/2004 4:17:47 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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To: truthandlife

Just stop doing business with Hollywood altogether.


24 posted on 06/17/2004 4:49:48 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
MM is nothing more than a modern Leni Reifenstahl! His latest piece of trash is no better than her much ballyhooed film Triumph of the Will. Even Bill O' equated MM to Goebbels.
25 posted on 06/17/2004 5:29:51 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: truthandlife

26 posted on 06/17/2004 7:41:50 PM PDT by Boazo (Are you afraid of clowns?)
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To: truthandlife

There is an easier solution to all of this.


27 posted on 06/17/2004 7:42:24 PM PDT by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: truthandlife
Fahrenheit 9/11 gets help offer from Hezbollah

28 posted on 06/17/2004 7:59:00 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: truthandlife

29 posted on 06/17/2004 8:03:42 PM PDT by Boazo (Are you afraid of clowns?)
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To: CIBvet

US Movie Theaters in league with Hezbollah..!


30 posted on 06/17/2004 8:05:21 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: cripplecreek
Nah - I disagree... and I am a broken record on this, so forgive me if you've read my rant before.

Increased exposure to Michael Moore's intention to undermine the war on terrorism and the fact that this film has backing from the terrorist group Hezbollah does not serve Mr. Moore well.

And Americans who find the above two points I just posted offensive need to point that out to theater owners as they are the customers of the theaters. Moore has a right to free speech. The theaters have the right to freely decide what to show... but we have an important right as consumers to voice our opinions to those theaters.

Unlike the Passion of the Christ (where having more attention to a movie about the death and resurrection of Christ is intriguing to a largely Christian nation), being made more aware of a film which is a political commercial and which hurts the war on terrorism makes one who is not already on MoveOn.org's list (who were going to see the movie no matter what) LESS inclined to see it.

My own opinion, I respect the fact that you disagree and that you wish Mr. Moore's lies and propaganda do not receive an inordinate amount of $$$ at the box office. On that part we both agree :)

31 posted on 06/17/2004 8:54:42 PM PDT by Impeach98
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To: rwfromkansas
No, good point, it isn't going to be in many theaters.

Moore and his associates had boasted that more than 1,000 theaters were going to pick up the film.

However, after movie theaters discovered what the movie was all about (as more scrutiny was focused on the movie) they kept retreating from that number. First to "around 1,000" then as many as 700, then "at least 500."

However, as of today they've had a hard time reaching the 500 mark and are short of it.

I'm thinking maybe FAXing the Hezbollah stories to theaters who are indicating they are inclined to show the movie with a note asking 'how on earth do you consider this appropriate fare to show to the public when even Hezbollah sees it as propaganda that helps their cause?' would be effective.

32 posted on 06/17/2004 8:57:51 PM PDT by Impeach98
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping!


33 posted on 06/17/2004 8:58:08 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: kellynla

Yep - thanks for making that Passion point. I work for Howard (did on his Senate campaign to) and I think I need to raise this point tomorrow - that we have to respond to that spin with the press to indicate why a movie about Jesus Christ would attract national appreciation whereas a movie that seeks to undermine the war on terrorism and is being backed by terrorist groups wouldn't attract national appreciation.


34 posted on 06/17/2004 8:59:36 PM PDT by Impeach98
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To: sharktrager

I disagree with your premise (but already posted my reasons for disagreeing) in the posts above. I see you and I don't see eye-to-eye but ask that you at least consider the points made. Thanks!


35 posted on 06/17/2004 9:00:31 PM PDT by Impeach98
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To: Sister_T
Yeeehaaawww!! This has been my point. I know the RNC and WH have been silent because they don't want to get dragged into a battle where the press screws them.

But surely those outside of the RNC and WH can expose Moore for what he is. This is a guy who does not fare well when the light of exposure shines on him. He smeared the passengers of the 9/11 flights for being scaredy cats who allowed the planes to be hijacked. He cheers on the Iraqi resistance. His film is being backed by Hezbollah.

If we can't summon the energy to take a bullhorn and make these points heard loud and clear in the public square then we cannot win any debate.

When conservatives are on TV/radio with liberals in the media or Hollywood gushing about Moore and his great film or his "right" to make the film (yes he has the right, that does not make its content disgusting) we must not back down an inch from shaming and condemning them.

John Kerry's poll numbers plunged when he was exposed as a flip-flopping weanie with no vision. The American public could get that. Surely Michael Moore is apt to be exposed as 100 times more destructive a force for America than John Kerry.

36 posted on 06/17/2004 9:05:41 PM PDT by Impeach98
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To: truthandlife

If I watch any movies over the next couple of months, I will go to a theatre that is not playing MM's propoganda.


37 posted on 06/17/2004 9:14:24 PM PDT by Crispy
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To: Impeach98

Draw the point that Hezbollah is partnering to support the film..= Theaters in bed with Hezbollah plans...


38 posted on 06/17/2004 9:18:21 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Sister_T
The difference is that there was a chance CBS would cave. This film will get shown, and these protests will not stop that. The theaters and distributors signed on AFTER the controversy, and largely because of the controversy.

Protests do, however get people to go see it to see what the fuss is all about. Those people will believe what they see because it will be presented as fact.
39 posted on 06/17/2004 9:23:38 PM PDT by sharktrager (George Clooney has rubber nipples.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks, Tonk. I can't believe Fox news said this (from your link)

"F9/11" gets to audiences beyond screenings, it won't be dependent on celebrities for approbation. It turns out to be a really brilliant piece of work, and a film that members of all political parties should see without fail.

As much as some might try to marginalize this film as a screed against President George Bush, "F9/11" — as we saw last night — is a tribute to patriotism, to the American sense of duty"



Unreal reading that at Fox News. Sounds more like the rest of 'em!! I actually rely on that cable fox news for the real truth. Just can't believe it.

My personal opinion about Michael Moore and his drivel is neither here nor there. I wouldn't spend one cent to see his crap. Even though I do try to keep up on what's the other side is doing. Just to be informed what they're up to, lol. For instance, did watch his Bowling for Columbine POS, but only once it came to network.

I'm still at a loss about Fox News reporting this, unless!!! They are living up to the Fair and Balanced aspect, LOL. Now that I think about it a minute; that's gotta be it, eh?


40 posted on 06/17/2004 9:29:54 PM PDT by JLO
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To: sharktrager

"The difference is that there was a chance CBS would cave. This film will get shown, and these protests will not stop that. The theaters and distributors signed on AFTER the controversy, and largely because of the controversy."

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I think you're spot on.

However, I don't think most true Americans will believe it!!

No matter what else others think who say they they agree with him. Who are they anyway? Mostly Hollywood f'wads, and of course the Frenchies. Who cares?


41 posted on 06/17/2004 9:55:42 PM PDT by JLO
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!!!!!!


42 posted on 06/18/2004 3:09:25 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; mupcat; truthandlife

Just to clarify where I stand on this: I am by no means a fan of Michael Moore. He is a parasite feeding on the American psyche, and is as lovable as any parasite.

But as with parasites in nature, there is a place for people like Moore, and he fills it amply. He's there because he belongs there.

If people want to see Moore's work and support him, more power to them. It's one of the many blessings of being an American that we can make these choices for ourselves. Likewise, if people want to protest him, then great! Yet another blessing.

It's only fair to point out, however, that a person who protests Moore and draws attention to him is far more valuable to him than someone who simply goes to see his movie.

So if you really dislike what Moore does, ignore him. He will either eventually go away on his own or become desperate enough to do something for attention that will land him in jail. Either outcome is fine with me.

But as long as there is a market for his brand of puerile rubbish, someone will always be there to take his place. He stands out because he is unusually good at what he does, a dubious accolade for a rabid propagandist, but one he deserves.


43 posted on 06/18/2004 3:18:02 AM PDT by Imal (Bill Clinton was the man who brought the dignity of The Jerry Springer Show to the U.S. presidency.)
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To: Imal

Look, as an American, Michael Moore has the right to film, edit and produce this trash. We as Americans have the right to either protest it, see it or ignore it.

PT Barnum said and I am parapharsing, "there is a sucker born every minute"

People like Moore bank on that.


44 posted on 06/18/2004 4:12:34 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (How can you trust a man who will not risk his own Senate seat for a run at the presidency?)
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To: truthandlife

Bump for later thanks.


45 posted on 06/18/2004 4:24:03 AM PDT by Ragirl (Vote in '04 ! Those who sit on their hands end up with poop on them.)
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To: BushisTheMan
If Loews is responsible for the "presentation" of the movie, then there should be a big yellow warning label on the Marquee of each mention of his film that says:

"Warning! This film is fiction, not a documentary!"

46 posted on 06/18/2004 5:31:20 AM PDT by sauropod (Which would you prefer? "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" or "I did not have sex with that woman?)
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To: Sister_T

You are completely correct and I agree with you.


47 posted on 06/18/2004 5:32:37 AM PDT by sauropod (Which would you prefer? "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" or "I did not have sex with that woman?)
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To: sakic
I don't recall Mel Gibson making a movie prior to the Passion that purported to be a "documentary" and was shown to be a pack of lies.

It is different. Your strawman argument doesn't wash.

48 posted on 06/18/2004 5:34:06 AM PDT by sauropod (Which would you prefer? "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" or "I did not have sex with that woman?)
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To: sharktrager; Sister_T
Sister_T's point is valid. We, as conservatives, have a responsibility to oppose this crap.

It directly aids, abets, and supports the terrorists by undermining America's will to fight.

It can't simply be ignored.

49 posted on 06/18/2004 5:42:11 AM PDT by sauropod (Which would you prefer? "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" or "I did not have sex with that woman?)
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To: truthandlife

First-class job on this, truthandlife. Many, many thanks to you. Messages should indeed go to these sources. Otherwise we will be acquiesing in a crime of very large magnitude.

This piece of putridity is not entertainment in any sense.

It is a deliberate and diabolical degradation of our nation, of each of us, of our families, of the men and women who have gone before and - especially veterans.

It is an incitement to violence and terrorism against America, and to Americans traveling abroad. It is a hateful misrepresentation and slandering of men and women in our armed forces; and it distinctly places them, as well as all of us, in unceasing harms way.

I remember the years of WWII well; and there is no essential difference between the rabid, frothing, gesticulating Adolf Hitler - and Michael Moore.

Moore wears the outward appearance of a clown; but he is every bit as poisonous, psychotic, and swollen with hate as was the person who, along with those in Imperial Japan, led the way to an eventual 50 million war-deaths.

It is ironic that "Nazi" is so often on Moore's repugnant lips and those of his following. They are all without love - the lack of which was the core of Nazism, that which destroyed so much of the world a half-century ago.

Evil ever reappears. Each of us has been placed here and now to just not observe it as a voyeur - but to do something about it to the best of our ability. And that includes ever affirming the true and the good.


50 posted on 06/18/2004 5:51:16 AM PDT by mtntop3 ("Those who must know before they believe will never come to full knowledge.")
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