Genghis Khan: Father To Millions

Discovery News ^ | 6-22-2004 | Rossella Lorenzi

[VadeRetro]

Correlating molecular clocks with recorded history ping.

[CyberCowboy777]

It is not unlike the "n-word."

A word that can be used within context, only the "n-word" has a much more limited context of proper use. The "n-word" never had a scientific use.

The term Mongoloid was taught and learned by many of us as as with no knowledge of the derogatory alternative use. JenB is completely wrong in her statement that any who uses the word knows it is offensive. I did not.

[JenB]

Let me correct myself. Anyone who uses it to address a child with Down Syndrome, in front of his family, while refusing to actually look at that child, knows it is offensive. It's possible that it can be used inoffensively. When one uses it in a stupid joke, that person probably knows it is offensive.

People may use it innocently, but I think they'd be glad to learn that it can be construed as offensive so as not to use it again.

[CyberCowboy777]

A more complete dictionary is a useful asset when discussing the use and origins of words.

The point is that the word has a valid meaning not associated with derogatory use, and many are not in the "loop" when it comes to 'word you can't use anymore'.

[CyberCowboy777]

I agree, and I personally will try to use an alternative.

But this thread is not about Down Syndrome, it is about Genghis Khan, his Mongol army and their descendants.

[JenB]

No, but I was originally replying to post 8: All that inbreeding doubtless led to some Mongoloids.

How am I supposed to take this 'joke'? Down Syndrome is a genetic defect (not caused by inbreeding). To me, it sounds pretty darn crude.

[ValerieUSA]

This discussion has deteriorated into irrelevance, but the original article may be of interest to you.

[Corin Stormhands]

The term Mongoloid was taught and learned by many of us as as with no knowledge of the derogatory alternative use. JenB is completely wrong in her statement that any who uses the word knows it is offensive. I did not.

Well, now you know.

I'm sorry, but the original use on this thread was clearly pointing at both meanings of the word.

[Rebelbase]

Well now, this explains my bizarre cravings for mare's milk and the times I've been caught sleepwalking carrying my bow and wearing nothing but a horned hat while yelling SAMARAKAN!

[CyberCowboy777]

I guess I missed the nuance of the joke.

My point is that it is possible to use the word in a innocent way.

If the poster intended it as a joke, it was tasteless and ignorant.

[Corin Stormhands]

I think we're agreed.

[ValerieUSA]

[JenB]

Thank you for being willing to learn. I apologize if I implied that anyone who uses that term is necessarily a jerk. You've demonstrated that's certainly not the case.

[ValerieUSA]

You are way underdressed.

[Max Combined]

"There is a new book out on the biography of Genghis Khan. He did ban the use of torture."

Don't belive everything you read. He might have banned some torture, but I very much doubt that he banned all torture.

[Condor51]

Look I don't use the term mongoloid, but the point is that in the not too distant past it is the term that the Medical Profession used. And BTW, my old boss has a son with down syndrome, the kid is cute as a button and it's a shame - but that's life.

That being said, I am sick and tired of every special interest group (and those are growing exponentially daily) being offended by something. PC has run amok and it's running our country. Case in point is Iraq, were we can't properly respond with enough force in fear of offending the islmao-fascists who want us all DEAD.

[PatrickHenry]

May your seed be more numerous than Ghengis Khan's.

[VadeRetro]

May your seed be more numerous than Ghengis Khan's.

Not sure what joke I want to make.

• It is numerous; I just need to stop spilling it on the ground.
• I am already the father figure to many sheep. (WV reference.)
• How would I put all those kids through college?

[PatrickHenry]

There once was a conqueror named Ghengis,
Who had a hyper-active dingus,
With each city he captured,
Another maiden he enraptured,
As history and genetics both explaingus.

[VadeRetro]

Genghis Khan
Only had one.
But he got it done
That son of a gun.