Films like 'Fahrenheit 9/11' are turning movie theaters into political stumping grounds

Houston Chronicle ^ | June 26, 2004 | ERIC HARRISON

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Don't forget to vote an IMDB rating for this film.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361596/

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If the American people are so weak-minded as to be swayed by Lumpy's propaganda piece and toss out the President, then they deserve what they get.

If the German people are so weak-minded as to be swayed by the Nazi propaganda machine and embrace fascism, then they deserve what they get.

If the Arab people are so weak-minded as to be swayed by the propaganda on Al Jazeera and support terrorists, then they deserve what they get.

If the Russian people, and those in Hollywoood, are so weak-minded as to be swayed by Uncle Joe Stalin's propaganda and be a bunch of red dupes, then they deserve what they get...

Time Magazine asked:

They have never posed this question of the left. Even the Unabomber was considered a "mad Genuis".

[weegee]

The novel just celebrated its 50th anniversary. It is a classic. It has been hijacked by Michael Moore.

He says that Americans are a bunch of wimps and p***ies and that if black passengers had been on those planes on September 11th, that they would never have hit the WTC.

Michael says he is being unfairly shouted down in America. He should consider this an opposition to his attempts at hijacking the national will. A smack down of sorts.

[Helms]

Moore As Infantile Leftist and Neo-anarchist

He epitomised what one of his critics called "infantile leftism", an egotistical school of politics which is concerned principally with making gestures; attempting to shock (think Michael Moore) and constantly criticising, but never proffering a coherent alternative. J G Merquior labelled Foucault a quintessential neo-anarchist.

Whereas traditional anarchists were inspired by Pierre-Joseph Proudhon's mutualism and Kropotkin's co-operatives, and took pride in their embrace of science and humane Enlightenment values, Foucault owes more to the egotistical, destructive spirit of Mikhail Bakunin, whose anarchism luxuriated in its negativity and irrationality.

Its beliefs consist entirely of what it opposes. This legacy can be seen in today's "anti- capitalist" demonstrators, who are clear about what they seek to destroy, but rather vague as to what they want to create.

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[nopardons]

Glodwater....the Daisy/Nuke commercial. And that's just for starters.

Nixon...I think that you either didn't/don't know or have forgotten what the extreme HATRED against Nixon,from the time of his race against Helen Gahangan Brown,was like.The visceral HATERED and lies and mud slinging against Nixon was HUGE!

The lies and mud,thrown at Jefferson ( he fathered a child with his slave[NOT so at all,but still believed now,even after DNA proved otherwise!} and other things,that no one remembers anymore)were horrid,so was what was done to Andrew Jackson and his wife ( she was called a whore,an adulteress,he was called a whore monger,an adulterer and worse!),Grover Cleveland,and many,many others,were as bad.

Jefferson and Adams were political opponents,who were at each other's throats,so badly,that they didn't speak for decades.Marshall published a five volume set,slamming Jefferson,which drove Tom nuts! And it was Jefferson who said,"Party animosities here have raised a wall...between those who differ in political sentiments". Sound familiar? he also said that one man's truth is another man's slander.

And Jefferson,for all of the myths about him,was NOT a Simon pure man,without lots of warts and failings.None of the FFs were.

Heck, the Dems are using the exactly same lies they used to throw at Reagan,against President Bush,now. Both men were/are supposedly stupid,puppets,liars,morons, traitors,fools who are going to get us all killed,keeping down the poor,hate women,and anything else you have heard said about this president,was used against Reagan.Unlike Mrs. Reagan, Mrs. Bush has escaped the lies and mud slinging.

And then there's FDR,who really,really,REALLY was hated, for good and not so good reasons and slammed by a LOT of people.

From the inception of this nation,politics has been very dirty!And yes,books were written,which besmirched presidents.I suggest that you and anyone else who doesn't know this history,read " AFFAIRS OF HONOR ",by Joanne B. Freeman.

[Hildy]

Filmmaker John Sayles' new Silver City offers an unflattering portrait of a Republican gubernatorial candidate who resembles Bush. It's scheduled for September release.

What the hell is this one? So we're just going to let Hollywood dictate the next election?

[Hildy]

Just read the IMDB description of this John Sayles movie and it just sounds horrible for Bush. Lots of big stars. Apparently Chris Cooper plays the "idiotic" Bush character.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

While Bush is bringing NATO into his war against terrorism, they're comfortable with the make-believe of film.

[Tilly]

Appreciate your grasp of political history in the US. Alexander Hamilton has massive smear campaign against Aaron Burr, too, depending on what source one reads.

However, I do remember the Nixon era, and it was bad. I'd compare Nixon-hating to the Clinton debacle. However, in my opinion, the Bush bashing goes to an entirely new level.

I stand by my statement. I do not think the lies have been this bad in my lifetime.

But, thanks for your reply.

[Tilly]

Well, heck! Guess I just have to keep tabs on the company I keep, huh?

[backhoe]

broadsword mentioned:

Seriously, though, there has never been such an insane and hateful concerted onslaught against the president. I pray he makes it, but I fear for this next election. There are so many malinformed idiots out there.

...and that's what I see, too.

My first campaign was for Barry Goldwater, and my small southern town was 80% New Deal Democrat- but other than that nasty "Daisy" commercial, it never approached the mindless rancor and venom I see directed toward President Bush. And it's not just him who is singled out to be reviled: almost anyone on the right, religious people, and patriots ware equally despised, hated, and ridiculed.

Here's a true, local story to illustrate that- our local talk radio has two token Leftists who call all the time and frankly, make pests of themselves.

During the 8 years of darkness that was the Clinton administration, they were on speed, and speed-dial. Anytime anyone criticized anything Clitonian, they were always the next callers up, and hogged the lines until commercial breaks.

Ever since 2000, they've done something of the reverse- hogging the lines, but with every new Democrat talking point, and all the conspiracy/big oil garbage you find on BartCop and DU.

In a way, it's funny that they are reduced to bark-at-the-moon near-lunacy... but these guys are really serious about "Anybody But Boosh!"

And given the guillibility, and inattention of the average voter, it worries me.

I still think it's Boosh's fault.

[nopardons]

Burr was a despicable,boorish man,who flip flopped,lied,back stabbed,and was,in general,thoroughly disliked,if not reviled,by everyone who knew him.Like Clinton,he kept petty and major grievances locked in his heart and never let them go.

Think that the 2000 was something new and different,where the people/party who lost kept the flame of vituperation alight for years? Then think again! The election of 1800 was so divisive,that Jefferson and Burr and Adams and Bayard and others kept at the recriminations for decades and it was not only VERY nasty,but dirty and deadly.

Nixon's pillorying goes way back,as I said earlier and was far dirtier than you remember.No,there wasn't a Michael Moore,there wasn't a film,but it really was as bad,if not worse than the Bushbashings of today.There really WAS a LEFT WING CONSPIRACY AGAINST NIXON,BUT THERE WAS NOT A VRWC AGAINST CLINTON! The two just do NOT equate.

Dirty? The attacks on President Bush are warmed over Reagan stuff;except that Laura hasn't been attacked and Nancy was reviled,smeared,lied at about,and took hits for years and years.

The constant smears against Mrs. Jackson, killed her.

The constant smears against President Lincoln and the mentally fragile Mrs. Lincoln,sent her over the edge.

Politics has ALWAYS been filthy,with brief periods of some civility.

Just as every era since Christ was crucified had people believing it was the "end times",every generation seems to think that when there guy gets targeted,politically,is THE worst.It's only when one investigates prior eras,does one realize that it's pretty much business as usual.