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***(Thurs 7-8) ASK JAYNA DAVIS QUESTIONS ABOUT HER BOOK -- "THE THIRD TERRORIST"***
dfu | 7-8-04 | dfu

Posted on 07/08/2004 7:10:31 AM PDT by doug from upland

Edited on 07/08/2004 2:03:56 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

JAYNA DAVIS DOT COM

Jayna Davis, author of THE THIRD TERRORIST, is scheduled today for the Larry Elder show, guest hosted by Doug McIntyre. The time is 3pm Pacific. Then at 6pm Pacific, she will be on this thread to answer questions.

Jayna's work in exposing the Iraqi connection in the OKC bombing has been endorsed by James Woolsey, Dave Schippers, and Frank Gaffney. No, folks, McVeigh and Nichols did not act alone.

If you haven't read the book, please look over the info on the website, particularly the interview done on the Glen Beck show. You can listen to the Larry Elder show online by going to the KABC WEBSITE.

Let's try to make it easy for Jayna. Because I anticipate a busy thread with lots of comments, please use red font to ask questions.

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QUESTION: Jayna, why did Tim McVeigh not rat out his Iraqi pals?


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: coverup; fredthompson; iraqiconnection; jaynadavis; mcveigh; okcbombing; thethirdterrorist
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To: swampfx

Is the request in the petition related to Stephen Jones' attempt to obtain a copy of the final three-page report you mentioned in reply #317?


No, the information was requested in a classified brief that was filed ex-parte and under seal with the Denver court. However, the information has been made public on the court record and the names of the bomb experts have been disclosed. I detail this info in my book.

Good question.


401 posted on 07/11/2004 9:42:59 AM PDT by truthaboveall (Hello Freepers, it's wonderful to be your guest)
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To: swampfx

Is the request in the petition related to Stephen Jones' attempt to obtain a copy of the final three-page report you mentioned in reply #317?


No, the information was requested in a classified brief that was filed ex-parte and under seal with the Denver court. However, the information has been made public on the court record and the names of the bomb experts have been disclosed. I detail this info in my book.

Good question.


402 posted on 07/11/2004 9:43:06 AM PDT by truthaboveall (Hello Freepers, it's wonderful to be your guest)
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To: truthaboveall; doug from upland

Oh my gosh.

I am just now realizing that I *totally* missed all this on Thursday. We are in the process of packing up our things and moving out of state. Whatever the heck I was doing Thursday night, now, I can't even recall. Suffice it to say, I am sick over having missed this. I first heard you being interviewed years ago...definitely before the last big election. I did a lot of searching in the www to learn more about your evidence and witnesses, and since then, have held you and your work in highest esteem. My secret wish and prayer was for you and BKO to collaborate and team up, but sadly the world lost her on September 11th.

Anyway, in between boxes today, I will get caught up on this thread. I am kicking myself for having had this slip my mind. My sincere apologies.


403 posted on 07/11/2004 9:56:47 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ("Those poor, misguided Democrats." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: swampfx

Is the request in the petition related to Stephen Jones' attempt to obtain a copy of the final three-page report you mentioned in reply #317?


No, the information was requested in a classified brief that was filed ex-parte and under seal with the Denver court. However, the information has been made public on the court record and the names of the bomb experts have been disclosed. I detail this info in my book.

Good question.


404 posted on 07/11/2004 9:58:54 AM PDT by truthaboveall (Hello Freepers, it's wonderful to be your guest)
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To: truthaboveall
QUESTION: does a district attorney in OKC have the power to re-open this and call your witnesses? Can we find a way to ask questions of a grand juror?
405 posted on 07/11/2004 10:04:58 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: truthaboveall

Note to Jayna: when you hit the POST button, it doesn't always post your comment immediately. If you hit POST more than once, you will have multiple responses of the same thing. Like this. :)


406 posted on 07/11/2004 10:06:25 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: truthaboveall

Note to Jayna: when you hit the POST button, it doesn't always post your comment immediately. If you hit POST more than once, you will have multiple responses of the same thing. Like this. :)


407 posted on 07/11/2004 10:06:39 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: truthaboveall
It is my theory that the frustration on the part of the left with the mainstream media's inability to sway public opinion the way it used to is the reason Michael Moore's movie HAD TO BE MADE. The mainstream media can only purvey their lies, and EVENTS can refute them. A documentary is uniquely suited to the left's needs at this juncture, not only because the mainstream media has been exposed, but because the medium is itself a much more powerful tool of persuasion, as Hitler surely knew.

I see your book as an equally potent antidote to these lies, if put in documentary form, have you been contacted by anyone interested in doing a documentary? Would you consider doing one? I am not a producer, but I'm sure many on this forum and within other organizations would be willing to pony up to make it possible.

I read your book, and I'm recommending it to all my friends. The problem is, the cohort which really needs to hear(see) the truth, statistically at least, DOESN'T READ.

408 posted on 07/11/2004 10:12:49 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: wayoverontheright

I would consider doing a documentary if the funding and backing were available from conservative film makers. My training in broadcast journalist and close relationship with many of the witnesses would enable me to put this together in a cohesive one-hour format. However, I have turned down several production companies in the past which were seeking to make a documentary revolving around all the "conspiracy theories" involving the Oklahoma bombing.

I would need total editorial control to insure accuracy.

Let me know what you can develop. I am grateful and game.


409 posted on 07/11/2004 10:33:49 AM PDT by truthaboveall (Hello Freepers, it's wonderful to be your guest)
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To: doug from upland

I'm so embarrassed. I suppose the double and triple postings are equivalent to having the hiccups online. I'm a neophyte at the Freeper format. please forgive my slip up.


410 posted on 07/11/2004 10:35:21 AM PDT by truthaboveall (Hello Freepers, it's wonderful to be your guest)
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To: truthaboveall

When I first came here early in 1997, I did the same thing. I think I remember someone calling it, when others had done it, "pulling a Doug from Upland."


411 posted on 07/11/2004 10:43:42 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland

QUESTION: does a district attorney in OKC have the power to re-open this and call your witnesses? Can we find a way to ask questions of a grand juror?

Yes. The bombing is a criminal act of mass murder that took place in Oklahoma Count. The DA is Wes Lane. Governor Keating appointed Lane to the post when the outgoing democratic DA, the legendary Bob Macy, retired early. Lane was elected in the general election on the Republican ticket in 2002. He announced that Oklahoma would try Terry Nichols on state murder charges on September 5, 2001-6 days prior to the New Pearl Harbor.

Lane recently stated after jury's heartbreaking deadlock on the death penalty, that it would have been a "feather in his political cap if he had found JD2."

Here's some history on Mr. Lane. I contacted his office in September 2001 when I learned that the man whom witnesses pegged a JD2 went on to work at Boston Logan Airport. His staff called back in a superficial attempt to feign interest. From there, nothing happened. Check out Chapter 21 of my book - the affidavit of Stacy McBride in which she describes her boyfriend's confession to involvement in 4-19 and 911. This sworn statement was given to the FBI's JTTF in October 2001. Nothing was done. No one queried the witness about the evidence implicated the alleged JD2 Iraq cohort in two of the greatest terrorist events spanning two centuries.

Next point: A high ranking official in the Oklahoma Republican party spoke to Wes Lane about my evidence and possibly conducting a proper investigation. According to the official, Lane covered his face with his hands and stated "I have to believe my people when they tell me there is no John Doe 2." A few months later, Lane's wife, Dr. Lori Hansen (prominent Oklahoma plastic surgeon) was charged with writing phony prescriptions to feed her addiction to painkillers to mask the agony of a previous back injury. Dr. Hansen's lawyer was former Assistant Attorney Patrick Ryan who served as one of the chief prosecutors in McVeigh's federal trial.

I do not know the grand jurors, but as I stated before the witnesses affidavits were hand delivered to the Oklahoma County DA on October 5, 1998. The FBI sent an agent before the panel a few weeks later. According to the sealed transcripts about which I was informed firsthand, the FBI agent simply did not address the majority of my witnesses testimonies and claimed he had no idea what happened to the evidence I attempted to turn over to the FBI in 1997 (my efforts were rebuffed.)

That said. I pressed the DA's office to acknowledge in writing the the grand jury received the witnesses' affidavits. Weeks later, in late October, I received a sarcastic reply that stated that a "packet of information" was given to the panel. But not one witness was called. This inaction left me dumbfounded given the fact that the grand jury wrote four letters through the DA to my attorney requesting to speak to my witnesses.

I can honestly say that I have no confidence that the grand jury received the affidavits. Why? Because I know that Nichols' state attorneys had to demand the DA turn over those documents when they received the sealed grand jury testimony. Also, the grand jury called 117 witnesses over an 18-month time span, why not speak to a few more before concluding their lengthy probe in to possible other conspirators.

I hope this helps.


412 posted on 07/11/2004 10:51:22 AM PDT by truthaboveall (Hello Freepers, it's wonderful to be your guest)
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To: swampfx

Thanks so much for the vote of confidence. I truly apprecite your declaration to read the book. Thanks much!

You also stated something that chills me to the bone. I live with the high probability these men will do it again. I have new unconfirmed info that several in the Iraqi/Al Qaeda cell as still active. I hope the Freepers can pressure Aschcroft and the DOJ to make arrests. Afterall, if the man identified by witnesses at The Third Terrorist had foreknowledge of 9-11, what do he and his Middle Eastern confederates know about the next Al-Qaeda attack that Ashcraft warns could involved "lily whites" such as non-Arabs and non-Muslims. I was the first journalist to document such a terrorist alliance between seemingly polar opposite groups nine years ago. Only we didn't act then and now we are helpless to isolate and prevent the next attack. We have no informants inside these ever-evolving sleeper networks on U.S. soil.


413 posted on 07/11/2004 11:02:24 AM PDT by truthaboveall (Hello Freepers, it's wonderful to be your guest)
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To: truthaboveall
To further bolster her testimomy, I recently confirmed (just this past month), that a second top Al Qaeda general, Ayman Al-Zawahiri, visited OKC in the spring of 1995 to visit two Islamists who were trained on U.S. soil in the fine art of constructing truck bombs from off-the-shelve materials.

http://www.jaynadavis.com/copley-review.html

Essential Reading Growing Evidence of Long-Term Iraqi, Iranian and Other Islamist Cooperation in Attacks on US Targets

"Significantly, Davis’ work — with its unimpeachable legal documentation of witness reports and other research — highlights, supports and makes more clear the importance of a range of other known factors, including — as Bodansky outlined in his bin Laden book — the 1995 visit to the US, and to Oklahoma City, of the number two man in the bin Laden al-Qaida network, Dr Ayman al-Zawahiri."

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http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/terror/01051502.htm
Ali Mohamed: The Defendant Who Did Not Go to Trial
Pled guilty to conspiracy in African embassy bombing case

Ali A. Mohamed was charged in the almost simultaneous bombings of the U.S. embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam on August 7, 1998, and with conspiring to kill Americans...

(Ali) Mohamed told the judge that in the early 1980s he became involved with the Egyptian Islamic Jihad organization and in the 1990s was introduced to al Qaeda through the Egyptian organization. In the early 1990s Ayman Al Zawihiri made two visits to the United States to raise funds for Islamic Jihad, Mohamed said, and he helped Zawihiri do that. Zawihiri was also indicted in the bombing but remains at large, as does bin Laden.

Was Ali A. Mohamed with Ayman Al-Zawahiri when he visited OKC in the spring of 1995 ?

414 posted on 07/11/2004 11:43:46 AM PDT by swampfx
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To: truthaboveall
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1137957/posts
Jayna Davis Dissects Berg-Moussaoui Links

According to Davis, a notorious individual with known terrorist ties attempted to post bail for Moussaoui's roomate. The unnamed benefactor was, said Davis, "vice president for overseas operations and recruiting for Al Fatah and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood."

Was Mujahid Abdulquaadir Menepta the man that attempted to post bail for Moussaoui's roomate?
If you don't feel comfortable giving a name for the man that bailed out the roomate,has your investigation eliminated Menepta, Moussaoui's OKC associate?

415 posted on 07/11/2004 11:54:05 AM PDT by swampfx
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To: truthaboveall
I truly apprecite your declaration to read the book.

I am on Chapter 3.Chapter One was very powerful.Sometimes the pursuit of facts blurs out the human tragedy of that awful day.Your writing reminds the reader of the consequences experienced by the individual victims and the survivors.

416 posted on 07/11/2004 12:01:26 PM PDT by swampfx
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To: swampfx

I wish I knew. When was Mohammed arrested? If he was in custody before the spring of 1995, the answer would be no.


417 posted on 07/11/2004 12:03:52 PM PDT by truthaboveall (Hello Freepers, it's wonderful to be your guest)
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To: swampfx

Was Mujahid Abdulquaadir Menepta the man that attempted to post bail for Moussaoui's roomate?
If you don't feel comfortable giving a name for the man that bailed out the roomate,has your investigation eliminated Menepta, Moussaoui's OKC associate?

I would love to know the man's name--if I did, I would have published it. I found this information on the Congressional 9-11 investigative report on page 322. Congress redacted the name I suppose to protect the guilty. The DOJ in Washington DC declined to confirm where the "overseas recruiter" was residing in the summer of 2003 when the Congressional report was issued. We should get the name if we can. This guy was the target of an Oklahoma City FBI full field investigation. He lived or lives in my hometown.




418 posted on 07/11/2004 12:08:54 PM PDT by truthaboveall (Hello Freepers, it's wonderful to be your guest)
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To: swampfx

I wept through the writing of Chapter 1. I have a hard time re-reading it.


419 posted on 07/11/2004 12:09:47 PM PDT by truthaboveall (Hello Freepers, it's wonderful to be your guest)
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To: truthaboveall
We should get the name if we can. This guy was the target of an Oklahoma City FBI full field investigation. He lived or lives in my hometown.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=19&num=2665
A costly failure
By GREG GORDON
McClatchy Newspapers
Jul 25, 2003, 04:58

The report also disclosed that a man serving as a recruiting vice-president for the Palestinian organization, al-Fatah, was a friend of a man arrested with Moussaoui, Hussein al-Attas. El-Attas was Moussaoui's Oklahoma roommate. The friend traveled to the Twin Cities after the arrests and sought to post bond for el-Attas. The man posting bond was not identified in the report, but had previously been identified as Abdulqaadir Menepta; he was later jailed on a gun charge.

Without identifying him, the report said the man posting bond also was a "close associate" of an unidentified Imam at a U.S. Islamic Center attended by two of the hijackers. The location of the center was also redacted.

© Copyright 2004 by Capitol Hill Blue

420 posted on 07/11/2004 12:51:14 PM PDT by swampfx
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