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Border Patrol Muzzles Agents Over Sweeps Story
Roger Hedgecock Show, AM600 San Diego, California ^ | July 9, 2004 | John Jorsett

Posted on 07/09/2004 4:37:43 PM PDT by John Jorsett

I've just been listening to Shaun Moran, an agent with the Border Patrol talk to Roger Hedgecock on his San Diego show (AM600, streaming audio available at the link). Moran says the Border Patrol has informed him and all agents that, contrary to policy up to now, there will be no more paid media appearances. Moran has been the official spokesman for the union representing Border Agents, and has made many paid appearances to inform the public in that capacity, most recently in regard to the illegal alien sweeps that the Border Patrol has recently made. Moran says he's sure this new policy is retaliation for the heat and embarrassment that's been generated as a result of these sweeps and the consequent banning of same by the DHS after the illegal alien advocacy groups started screaming about it. Moran says the public is entitled to the truth and that his union is going to make sure that they get it, despite this new policy. Moran says that, if necessary, his union will pay for his appearances (or Moran will do as he did today and make them while on vacation, before work, etc.) just to make sure the word gets out. If you'd like to register your objection to the banning of the sweeps and/or the attempts to stifle the dissemination of information regarding same, there's contact information for Asa Hutchingson's (Under Secretary for Border & Transportation Security) office at NBPC1613.org. Click on the "U.S. citizens: please help us protect you and your family - click here - "


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; baca; borderpatrol; boxer; dhs; feinstein; immigrantlist; immigration
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1 posted on 07/09/2004 4:37:44 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett

To late, Asa Hutchinson already spoke. They beat him like a drum when he ducked and wouldn't answer the questions.


2 posted on 07/09/2004 4:58:58 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: John Jorsett

Thank you very much for posting this thread.


3 posted on 07/09/2004 4:59:07 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Will the last American leaving Southern California please take the flag?)
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To: gubamyster

Please do your ping thing.


4 posted on 07/09/2004 4:59:40 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Will the last American leaving Southern California please take the flag?)
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To: John Jorsett; Victoria Delsoul; Marine Inspector; FITZ; Ajnin; Pelham; Travis McGee; sarcasm; ...
Moran says the Border Patrol has informed him and all agents that, contrary to policy up to now, there will be no more paid media appearances. Moran has been the official spokesman for the union representing Border Agents, and has made many paid appearances to inform the public in that capacity, most recently in regard to the illegal alien sweeps that the Border Patrol has recently made. Moran says he's sure this new policy is retaliation for the heat and embarrassment that's been generated as a result of these sweeps and the consequent banning of same by the DHS after the illegal alien advocacy groups started screaming about it.

The Asa Hutchison cave-in to the Illegal Alien lobby continues, and the attempt to cover it up is ongoing.

Hutchison is running scared because no one is buying his dissembling on his prevention of the Temecula Border Patrol agents from apprehending Illegal Aliens. In his unpersuasive appearance on the John and Ken Show (KFI AM 640) yesterday, Hutchison appeared shell-shocked under the public onslaught his anti-enforcement policies have engendered. His office e-mail and phone lines are jammed by outraged citizens.

Buckle up, folks, this will get worse before it gets better.


5 posted on 07/09/2004 5:06:26 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth; AnnaZ; feinswinesuksass

Unbelievable...


6 posted on 07/09/2004 5:12:02 PM PDT by HangFire (In some cultures what I do would be considered normal.)
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To: Sabertooth

bttt


7 posted on 07/09/2004 5:16:09 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..

ping


8 posted on 07/09/2004 5:18:28 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: John Jorsett

BUMP


9 posted on 07/09/2004 5:19:15 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Let them eat amnesty)
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To: Sabertooth

And where do "anti-enforcement policies" originate? Not with Asa Hutchison.


10 posted on 07/09/2004 5:30:15 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Leftists don't acknowledge that Reagan won the cold war because they rooted for the other side.)
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To: HangFire

Bump


11 posted on 07/09/2004 5:44:04 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: gubamyster

Nothing like trashing the right to free speech. Especially if that speech is telling the truth on the politicians. Got to hush that up right away.


12 posted on 07/09/2004 5:45:00 PM PDT by swampfox98 (We are at war! We have been at war since 9/11. How smart do you have to be to understand this?)
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To: luvbach1
And where do "anti-enforcement policies" originate?



13 posted on 07/09/2004 5:47:27 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver

That about sums up the whole enchilada.....


14 posted on 07/09/2004 5:52:22 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: DumpsterDiver

That's the place.


15 posted on 07/09/2004 5:57:42 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: gubamyster; John Jorsett; truthkeeper; Sabertooth

I was listening to the John and Ken Show briefly this afternoon, and John mentioned that Hutchinson gagged all officials and agents from speaking to the media. Sorry sucker, it's too late. The cat is out of the bag.

Do you think Mr. Hutchinson will honor me with a reply to my email???? /sarcasm


16 posted on 07/09/2004 6:21:04 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: DumpsterDiver

Yep. I'm wondering just how pointless it would be to email the White House over this issue...


17 posted on 07/09/2004 6:23:42 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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Asa Hutchison is only carrying out the policies of the Bush administration. Until enough voting members of the public get their fill of this problem and demonstrate their displeasure via the ballot box we will see no change in the current policy of "hands-off" when it comes to illegal immigration. Start turning some of these politicians out of office and then only will they get the message that we're fed up.


18 posted on 07/09/2004 6:30:51 PM PDT by Ron H. (Close down our Southern border!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

You'd have a better chance of receiving a message from a far away galaxy.


19 posted on 07/09/2004 6:33:04 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Ron H.
Start turning some of these politicians out of office and then only will they get the message that we're fed up.

Or we can just roll over and attend rallys for them.

20 posted on 07/09/2004 6:34:04 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I'm wondering just how pointless it would be to email the White House over this issue...

Keep on e-mailing, faxing and calling. Disguise your voice, tell different stories, use your imagination! Even if all it does is annoy them, at least somebody there will know we're ticked off.

I guess Asa never expected the reception he got. Too bad, ain't it! ;^)

21 posted on 07/09/2004 6:36:36 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver

Actually, it is Joe Baca(D-Ca) who got the ball rolling, but you already knew that, but refused to acknowledge.


22 posted on 07/09/2004 6:37:34 PM PDT by Dane
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To: DumpsterDiver
I guess Asa never expected the reception he got. Too bad, ain't it!

No he didn't, that's why all of a sudden it's tight lips and a media black out.

23 posted on 07/09/2004 6:40:07 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Ron H.
Start turning some of these politicians out of office and then only will they get the message that we're fed up

What you mean some on FR would actually have to campaign against Boxer and Baca in the electoral arena and not complain 24/7 about Bush.

JMO, I think you ask for a bit much.

24 posted on 07/09/2004 6:40:22 PM PDT by Dane
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To: DumpsterDiver; Dane
Disguise your voice, tell different stories, use your imagination!

Ah. In other words, you know that you're in a minority of malcontents, so you're forced to resort to fraudulent means to make your numbers seem larger than they are.

25 posted on 07/09/2004 6:41:48 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: Ron H.
Asa Hutchison is only carrying out the policies of the Bush administration.

That's clear.

26 posted on 07/09/2004 6:42:33 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Dane; Poohbah

If it's "free speech" why does he have to be paid to do it?


27 posted on 07/09/2004 6:43:21 PM PDT by Howlin (I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country. ~~John Edwards, CNN, 2/24/02)
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To: John Jorsett
Moran says the Border Patrol has informed him and all agents that, contrary to policy up to now, there will be no more paid media appearances.

Silence!

28 posted on 07/09/2004 6:43:40 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Howlin

Because they want to be paid for trashing their boss.


29 posted on 07/09/2004 6:45:42 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: Howlin
If it's "free speech" why does he have to be paid to do it?

And how come no criticism by the union president of Joe Baca(D-CA) who intitated the stops of the sweeps.

30 posted on 07/09/2004 6:46:02 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Sabertooth
Buckle up, folks, this will get worse before it gets better.

Yep, the next few months are gonna be loud and shrill.

31 posted on 07/09/2004 6:49:20 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Yep, the next few months are gonna be loud and shrill

With none of your union shrieks directed at the person who intitiated the stop of the sweeps, Joe Baca(D-Ca).

32 posted on 07/09/2004 6:52:32 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane

You may be correct that Baca got the ball rolling. And why is Asa playing ball with Baca?


33 posted on 07/09/2004 6:53:02 PM PDT by novacation
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To: novacation
You may be correct that Baca got the ball rolling. And why is Asa playing ball with Baca?

Get back to me when the union prez has a bad word for Baca.

34 posted on 07/09/2004 6:54:23 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane

It was a simple question.No answer?


35 posted on 07/09/2004 6:57:53 PM PDT by novacation
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To: TheSpottedOwl

We should just make them a state and get it over with.


36 posted on 07/09/2004 7:00:16 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: novacation

The answer is that the buck stops with Baca, he intitated the stop of the sweeps. They'll be throwing snowballs in hell before this union says a bad word about Baca(D-CA).


37 posted on 07/09/2004 7:00:39 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Sabertooth
The Asa Hutchison cave-in to the Illegal Alien lobby continues, and the attempt to cover it up is ongoing.

Hutchison is running scared because no one is buying his dissembling on his prevention of the Temecula Border Patrol agents from apprehending Illegal Aliens

Only the political naive and those with an agenda while waving their pom poms and attending political rallies may swallow that noise. To the rest of us, it's very clear.

We estimated during LA drive time, during the past couple of days, more then 2 million people were probably tuned in to KFI. This doesn't include those that can hear the station 3 states away...

38 posted on 07/09/2004 7:02:24 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Hey Joe, have a bad word to say about Baca(D-CA).

"Crickets".

39 posted on 07/09/2004 7:06:09 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane

It's not my union. Remember? The Border Patrol does it for a living; I do it for fun -- and payback for the damages to my property and community.


40 posted on 07/09/2004 7:07:49 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
We estimated during LA drive time, during the past couple of days, more then 2 million people were probably tuned in to KFI. This doesn't include those that can hear the station 3 states away..

Uh Joe who is this we? Second I doubt that 2 million people(10%) of the LA metropolitan area are tuned in to KFI, third, KFI's signal does not go 3 states beyond until after dark, when John and Ken are off the air.

41 posted on 07/09/2004 7:09:06 PM PDT by Dane
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To: JackelopeBreeder

lol


42 posted on 07/09/2004 7:11:08 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
It's not my union. Remember?

You are correct it is everybodys union, since it is part of the Federal govt. and not a peep is being heard from this union about Joe Baca(D-CA).

43 posted on 07/09/2004 7:13:22 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
You are correct it is everybodys union, since it is part of the Federal govt. and not a peep is being heard from this union about Joe Baca(D-CA).

Good answer, but by the same logic old Asa is part of the Federal government, supposedly working for all of us, and now some of his employers are a mite upset that he's showing all the spine of a jellyfish and not doing his job.

44 posted on 07/09/2004 7:18:27 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Good answer, but by the same logic old Asa is part of the Federal government, supposedly working for all of us, and now some of his employers are a mite upset that he's showing all the spine of a jellyfish and not doing his job

And those oh so good union employess are not saying a peep about the person who initiated all this, Joe Baca(D-CA).

45 posted on 07/09/2004 7:20:52 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
You were deliberately insulting a poor guy desperately looking for a job last Christmas. You also derided my efforts to help him. Lately you've waged dogmatic assaults on anyone wishing to see much needed reforms in our border policies (Feinstein...Boxer...why don't you attack...IMO...post stupid picture of DJs...kneejerk...accuse...never answer questions).

I found your official flag

You're from Pennsylvania and your Senators are Rick Santorum and Arlen Spector. While both are Republican their stance on illegals reflect yours: Nothing to be proud of. Do you have anything constructive to contribute or are you collecting checks from the Mexican government?

46 posted on 07/09/2004 7:24:11 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Want to make a difference? http://www.numbersusa.com)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
You were deliberately insulting a poor guy desperately looking for a job last Christmas. You also derided my efforts to help him

What the hell are you talking about? I do not deride anybody who wants to work.

Since you got that non-sequiter out of the way, all I am doing is pointing out that Joe Baca(D-CA) is the one who got the ball rolling in stopping the sweeps and not a word of criticism about him from the border patrol union.

47 posted on 07/09/2004 7:31:27 PM PDT by Dane
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To: NewRomeTacitus
While both are Republican their stance on illegals reflect yours

I can hear him now, "Go team!"

48 posted on 07/09/2004 7:34:57 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I can hear him now, "Go team!

And I can hear you now "Go Baca, Boxer, Feinstein!"

49 posted on 07/09/2004 7:37:02 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
Actually, it is Joe Baca(D-Ca) who got the ball rolling, but you already knew that, but refused to acknowledge.

Ah, yes, Joe "The Racist" Baca. In his mind, race takes priority over nationality.

50 posted on 07/09/2004 7:39:21 PM PDT by usadave
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