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Are we still evolving?
Prospect (UK) ^ | July, 2004 | Gabrielle Walker

Posted on 07/10/2004 7:06:11 AM PDT by jalisco555

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Interesting.
1 posted on 07/10/2004 7:06:12 AM PDT by jalisco555
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To: jalisco555

Of course we're still evolving. Every species evolves until that time it becomes extinct.


2 posted on 07/10/2004 7:09:24 AM PDT by theDentist ("John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute.")
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bump


4 posted on 07/10/2004 7:26:54 AM PDT by ellery (Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: jalisco555

This is a stupid article written about an interesting topic.
There is NO question that 'humans' continue to evolve.
Intelligent discussions on the topic center on 'how', not 'if'.
i.e.:
Which genetic traits are being passed along at greater rates?
The answers to this question are not encouraging.


5 posted on 07/10/2004 7:29:38 AM PDT by DefCon
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To: jalisco555
I'll wager that in 10,000 years when I look down from heaven that one of two observations will be true:

1. The human species will be extinct, or...
2. Humans will look much the same as today.

5.56mm

6 posted on 07/10/2004 7:34:59 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Physicist; LogicWings; Doctor Stochastic; ..
Evolution Ping! This list is for the evolution side of evolution threads, and maybe other science topics like cosmology.
See the list's description in my freeper homepage. Then FReepmail me to be added or dropped.
7 posted on 07/10/2004 7:35:42 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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Will we become too unfit to survive?

That's a pessimistic way of asking the question.  Merely surviving is not good enough.  One animal species that has survived the longest is cockroaches.  The question should be "Will our descendents be better than us?"   I'd prefer a 'yes' answer even if it means that in a million years the human race gets replaced by a better one.

8 posted on 07/10/2004 7:37:59 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: jalisco555

Unless a cure appears soon, HIV - like malaria - will have its inevitable evolutionary effect, forcing natural selection to pick out those individuals who are slightly more resistant than the rest. >>>

I.e., survival favoring sexually faithful hetersexual couples.

Exactly how this contradicts moral law is unclear.


9 posted on 07/10/2004 7:38:24 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones (truth is truth)
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Are we still evolving?

No. We are devolving.

There is no question.

10 posted on 07/10/2004 7:39:05 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Become a monthly donor! Viking Kittens do not live by troll alone.)
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To: M Kehoe

My bet is on number 2.


11 posted on 07/10/2004 7:40:13 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." W. B. Yeats)
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones

I suggest that anyone interested in the likely future evolution of a civilized, intelligent race re-read the '70s sci fi classic "The Mote in God's Eye" by Heinlein, Niven and Pournelle (although RAH didn't get author's credit, his presence in the story is dramatically illustrated by his absence in the sequel, "The Gripping Hand," which if it had sucked any worse would likely have been vacuum-packed in the Oort Cloud).


12 posted on 07/10/2004 7:40:37 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones (truth is truth)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

We are devolving. >>

We are DEVO!

D E V O!


13 posted on 07/10/2004 7:41:21 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones (truth is truth)
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To: jalisco555
>Are we still evolving?


14 posted on 07/10/2004 7:41:29 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: jalisco555

OK, typical goofy propaganda piece to explain how we got here and what to do about AIDS. I can't really understand where science stops and the speculation begins??

Paragraph 4 - "It is easy to argue that many", P7 - "If he is right", P13 - "Hawkes found clues", P14 - "This, Hawkes believes, is evidence", P18 -"Other genetic shifts in our archaic ancestors may also".

And the BLOCK_BUUSTER conclusion, "When it comes to a disease like Aids we can do something that chimps can't. We can use condoms."

Why not try getting married and having kids and no fooling around?


15 posted on 07/10/2004 7:41:41 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe (You are what you eat.)
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To: jalisco555

You need to read 'Evolution under the Microscope'.
Darwin is not standing up under modern scientific evidence.
Things do not build up by chance, They run down...period!


16 posted on 07/10/2004 7:43:10 AM PDT by metacognative
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"Unless the differences in family size come from a genetically inspired trait, they cannot drive Darwinian evolution."

Nonsense. If present trends continue, 22d century Europeans will look like 20th century Middle Easterners.

17 posted on 07/10/2004 7:44:17 AM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated. Thank you, President Bush.)
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
We are DEVO!

I refuse to wear a flowerpot on my head or yellow overalls. They clash with my purple shoes.

18 posted on 07/10/2004 7:48:34 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Become a monthly donor! Viking Kittens do not live by troll alone.)
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To: jalisco555
When you think that contemporary humans are the culmination of millions of years of evolution, it's enough to make you wonder if maybe it did all come about by accident after all.

To paraphrase Oscar Wilde: The universal brotherhood of man is not a poet's dream; it's a depressing reality.

19 posted on 07/10/2004 7:55:21 AM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated. Thank you, President Bush.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
>I refuse to wear a flowerpot on my head or yellow overalls. They clash with my purple shoes.

My new purple shoes,
Bin' amazin' the people next door
And my rock'n'roll 45's, bin' enragin'
The folks on the lower floor.

I got a way with girls on my block
Try my best be a real individual
And when we go down to Smokies and rock
They line up like it's some kinda ritual.

Chorus:
Oh, give me a good guitar, an' you can say
That my hair's a disgrace
Or, just give me an open car, I'll make
The speed of light outta this place.

I like the good things in life
But most of the best things ain't free
And this same situation, just cuts
Like a knife when you're young,
When you're poor, when you're crazy...

[Queen -- Tenement Funster (Taylor) on Sheer Heart Attack]

20 posted on 07/10/2004 7:57:05 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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