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Mongolia's Giant Steppe for Democracy(Mongolian troops serving in Iraq)
Heritage Foundation ^
| July 9, 2004
| John J. Tkacik, Jr.
Posted on 07/10/2004 10:49:09 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; OahuBreeze; yonif; risk; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; ...
To: TigerLikesRooster
History comes full circle. Genghis Khan's armies pillaged Baghdad in 1258.
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posted on
07/10/2004 10:50:41 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Many people do not even know Mongolia is an independent nation - they think it is part of China (if they even think of it at all).
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posted on
07/10/2004 10:52:48 AM PDT
by
Hacksaw
To: TigerLikesRooster
Caption that picture: These guys can kick your butt!
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posted on
07/10/2004 11:00:54 AM PDT
by
jocon307
(Nor forgive!)
To: TigerLikesRooster
You learn something new every day--I didn't even know they had troops in Iraq.
I remember that segment of the History Channel's "Barbarians" wherein the Muslim chieftain or whatever mistreated the ambassador that Genghis Khan sent over. They learned pretty quickly that you don't mess with the Mongolians.
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posted on
07/10/2004 11:01:36 AM PDT
by
scottinoc
To: TigerLikesRooster
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posted on
07/10/2004 11:03:44 AM PDT
by
Fiddlstix
(This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
To: TigerLikesRooster
I greatly admire the Mongolian people. I was a volunteer over there when they were privatizing agriculture. Was not a smooth process but they were learning. Remember that Mongolia was the second country to go communist after Russia so no one living had experienced capitalism unlike Poland which had a memory of opportunity.
One of the things I learned was that entrepreneurship can exist anywhere, even under communism. One individual was setting up a rural credit union in his small town. I asked him where he learned how to do it. He said he had already done it under communism and now had to do it again. But it did appear agriculture and rural towns were given a little more latitude than other business were.
To: TigerLikesRooster
Wow, didn't know much of what was stated before reading this article. Thanks to our Mongolian friends...and thanks for the post.
LBT
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posted on
07/10/2004 11:08:44 AM PDT
by
LiberalBassTurds
(Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
To: TigerLikesRooster
Baghdad class reunion picture.
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posted on
07/10/2004 11:10:09 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
To: Hacksaw
Mongolia is allied with Russia
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posted on
07/10/2004 11:10:55 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
To: TigerLikesRooster
A personal note about Mongolian Troops. My deceased uncle fought in Russia with the German Army during WW2(and spent 4 years in a Russian pow camp) and I'll always remember how he told me that in a war noted for its barbarity the Mongolian troops who fought on the Russian side were some of the most cruel and barbaric troops he faced. Until near the end of the war they shot most prisoners they captured and their Russian officers had very little control over them.
I'd be curious to see how the new Mongolian army compares to them.
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posted on
07/10/2004 11:55:52 AM PDT
by
Larry381
(The Democratic Party-Celebrating 60 years of aid and comfort to America's enemies)
To: goldstategop; TigerLikesRooster; Fiddlstix; scottinoc; RightWhale; LiberalBassTurds; jocon307; ...
Enthusiastic Western tourist:ULAN BATOR ROCKS!
Kublai Khan:
RIGHT ON!
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posted on
07/10/2004 12:06:20 PM PDT
by
The Scourge of Yazid
(Where you are, well, there you is! That's all there is to it. Isn't there?)
To: The Scourge of Yazid
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posted on
07/10/2004 12:15:15 PM PDT
by
Consort
To: TigerLikesRooster
PRC mainland is not ready for democracy because over 90 percent is still not well educated and poor. China cannot have a period of political infighting on a grandscale. Hong Kong on the other hand is different. Sizable portion of her population is educated and middle class by mainland standard. It is also an opportunity for the PRC to experiment to see if China's population in well developed areas are capable of handling democracy. This approach worked when China decided to embark on free market economics in a controlled process. She experimented in one province to see if their society can handle capitalism and the changes that it would bring (unemployment, less dependence on central government subsidies, etc). If the experiment caused chaos, only one province was affected and it would take less resources to recover. History showed that the experiment was successful before it was systematicly spread to the rest of China, which in turn benefited the country overall. Sooner or later the PRC must deal with democracy because history has shown that as a nation develops economically, it growing middle/wealthy class will want political power (which now rests only in the Communist Party). The longer the Communist Party refrains from experimenting in democracy the less controlled the process will be when the demand for freedom overwhelms them.
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posted on
07/10/2004 12:15:26 PM PDT
by
Fee
(Amatuers always tell you what they want, but it is the professionals who figure out the logistics)
To: Consort
Righteous!
(Gives "Consort" the thumbs up sign.)
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posted on
07/10/2004 12:23:29 PM PDT
by
The Scourge of Yazid
(Where you are, well, there you is! That's all there is to it. Isn't there?)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Finally, some decent barbeque in the Middle East.
To: TigerLikesRooster
Alamut was once a mountain fortress in the arid hills south of the Caspian Sea, about 100 km from present-day Tehran in Iran. Only ruins remain of this fortress today.
In 1090 the fortress was invaded and occupied by the powerful Hashshashin (Assassins), and was then fabled for its gardens and libraries. Marco Polo wrote that men the Assassin sheik (supposedly Hasan Ibn Saba) wanted to turn into killers would be drugged, deposited in the garden, and be allowed to dally there with all its joys. Later the men would be drugged again and removed from the garden. Upon waking up, they would be told that they could experience those pleasures again if they killed for the order.
It was destroyed in 1256 by Hulagu Khan as part of the Mongol offensive. The fortress itself was impregnable, but the Assassin sheik surrendered it without a real fight, in the vain hope that Hulagu would be merciful.
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posted on
07/10/2004 12:27:14 PM PDT
by
dennisw
(Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time is Enemy action. - Ian Fleming)
To: PeterPrinciple
The communists also did immeasurable damage-most of it permanent-to ancient relics/possible archaeological sights and numerous houses of worship.
The Buddhists who had practiced their religion for centuries upon centuries in relative peace and tranquility, were suddenly brutally repressed, denied access, tortured and many ultimately were murdered by Mongolia's despotic, communist regime.
There is some great information about these massacres-many of which occurred in the early years of their reign, during the 20s and 30s-in the Black Book of Communism.
This book is a must read for anyone who is interested in knowing the true extent of communist depredations throughout the history of the 20th Century.
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posted on
07/10/2004 12:30:25 PM PDT
by
The Scourge of Yazid
(Where you are, well, there you is! That's all there is to it. Isn't there?)
To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Pingpingping!
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