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Nearly 400 Al-Qaeda Members And Other Terror Suspects In Iran: Newspaper
TurkishPress ^ | July 15 2004 | NA

Posted on 07/15/2004 12:23:23 PM PDT by Dog

DUBAI, July 15 (AFP) - Hundreds of alleged members of Al-Qaeda, including 18 of its top leaders, and other terror groups are living in Iran, some under tight security, Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper reported Thursday.

"More than 384 members of Al-Qaeda and other terrorist organisations are present in Iran, including 18 senior leaders of Osama bin Laden`s network," the London-based daily said, citing a senior source in the Iranian presidency.

The Saudi-owned newspaper said the terrorist leaders were living under tight protection, some of them in villas in the Namak Abrud region, near the town of Chalous on the Caspian coast, 100 kilometres (60 miles) north of Tehran.

Others are living in Lavizan, in the north-west of the capital, and which also houses a large military complex, it added.

The report could not be verified in Tehran.

According to the source, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad convinced Tehran, during his visit to Iran early this month, of the "seriousness" of using Al-Qaeda elements in Iran as a card in its policy with the United States.

As a consequence, Tehran handed over wanted Saudi militant Khaled bin Odeh bin Mohammed al-Harbi to the Saudi authorities, the source added.

Riyadh has said the disabled militant, suspected of being an Al-Qaeda figure close to bin Laden, surrendered on Tuesday under an amnesty after contacting the Saudi embassy in Iran.

In 2003, Iran confirmed it was holding senior Al-Qaeda members but refused to identify them. Tehran has said the detainees may stand trial in Iran.

Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharazi said last month his country had given Saudi Arabia some useful information concerning members of Osama bin Laden`s network that it was detaining.


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1 posted on 07/15/2004 12:23:26 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog

So how long before the Left decides that there is no connection between AQ and Iran, and calls conservatives "liars" for suggesting there may in fact be such a connection?


2 posted on 07/15/2004 12:24:37 PM PDT by thoughtomator (End the imperialist moo slime colonization of the West!)
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To: Boot Hill; jeffers; Cap Huff; TexKat; Grampa Dave; Coop

Boot and jeffers.....can you locate a map of this region.


3 posted on 07/15/2004 12:24:50 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog; marron; freedom44

But ... but... I thought they're on some mountain top in remote Pakistan! And Iranians are Shi'ites, they must hate AQ!


Naturally the Saudis had a deal to warehouse their irregular forces in Iran...but that deal might be folding with Iran directing AQ attacks in Saudi itself, part of their ongoing "jihad", aka, oil pricing war.


4 posted on 07/15/2004 12:27:32 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Dog

A couple of questions...

Is Iran holding them prisoner or not?

If not, then why are they playing this kind of game... Al qaeda hates the Shia's and it could get ugly for Iran.

What is your take?


5 posted on 07/15/2004 12:29:00 PM PDT by Saint Athanasius ("I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dog

Look for Bush to give Iran an ultimatum sometime after the election.


6 posted on 07/15/2004 12:29:50 PM PDT by ServesURight
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To: thoughtomator; freedom44; DoctorZIn; Dog; Shermy; Tailgunner Joe
Man, it just don't get any tougher than those Iranian "villas", now does it?

Why, those agents of Al Qaeda are bound to crack any minute now!

I'm just glad that the mullahs and their jackbooted thugs aren't cutting them any slack, like those dissenting professors that they've been so lenient with these past couple of years.

7 posted on 07/15/2004 12:35:01 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("He must have committed a grave sin. I swear to you, Satan himself could have pissed in that water.")
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To: thoughtomator
The only drawback to the Iraqi operation is the chance it has limited our actions toward Iran. Iran is the biggest sponsor of terror and supports Al Kada directly.

If Bush wins and is consistent, I believe we should attack Iran.

8 posted on 07/15/2004 12:38:04 PM PDT by zarf
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To: Dog
The 'anti war' Marxist left cares not how many Americans are killed by terrorists...
Though it would love to see the USA go into Iran right now...so they can exploit as many US casualties as possible for their Nov grab for power....

No biological or spiritual organism feeds off the living or the dead like the saprocitic-necrocitic Democrats

imo
9 posted on 07/15/2004 12:41:12 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid; freedom44
Called it.

BTW, this guy who was turned over is probably no big deal. Some old Soviet war vet, not an operational terrorist, IMO.

10 posted on 07/15/2004 12:41:40 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Dog
The fleet has put to sea.

Iraq is coming under control faster than expected.

Iran has to be worried about the October surprise.

11 posted on 07/15/2004 12:43:11 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid; Dog
Here's a mouldy oldie:

Laden's right-hand man imprisoned in Iran: Reports

February 17, 2002

12 posted on 07/15/2004 12:44:52 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Dog

So they're staying at IRGC villas along the Caspian Sea and military bases near Tehran, eh? Jeez, why can't the Iranians hold me prisoner?

Actually, this is pretty much confirmation of what my boss Michael Ledeen has been writing about for some time now.


13 posted on 07/15/2004 12:46:14 PM PDT by Angelus Errare
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To: zarf

I love the game Syria and Iran are playing. Looks like they want to ping pong the US while while throwing these terrorists into Iraq as a obstacle.

On November 3, either the balance of those terrorists are let loose in Iraq and Kerry blames Bush for the breakdown in Iraq, or the terrorists are turned over to the US at the border and mysterious amounts of WMD turn up along with OBL and Zarqaiwi.

My bet is the latter as was shown when Reagan was elected and the hostages were released. People keep forgetting that.


14 posted on 07/15/2004 12:46:49 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Hitler? Stalin? The left has a tough decision as to who they would rather emulate.)
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To: Saint Athanasius

I am presently reading Breakdown by Bill Gertz, which was published in September, 2002. In the book, Gertz states unequivocably that AQ is tightly linked with Iran.

This tension between Shi'a and Sunni is probably overblown. Historically, look at Spain during the Reconquista, the Byzantine Empire during its long decline between Manzikert (1071) and the capture of Constantinople (1453) by Fatih Mehmet II (Ottoman), or the Crusader states in the Levant (1099 to 12xx). In all of these examples, some Muslims would work closely with Christians. Sure, the Sunni may view the Shi'a as heretical and vice-versa. However, the gap between Shi'a and Sunni is much less than the gap between Muslim and Christian.

What is important is how does one advance one's interests. The enemy of my enemy may become my friend.

I think that these arguments that AQ would not work with Shi'a Iran or AQ would not work with secular Iraq are being put forward by people without a whole lot of knowledge on the subject but, having heard a one-line argument, think that they've acquired a deep understanding of 1300+ years of history.

I also note that Iran under the Ayatollahs has long been hostile to Saudi Arabia. AQ and Iran share an interest here, as well.


15 posted on 07/15/2004 12:48:02 PM PDT by bagman
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN; Mitchell
Iran has to be worried about the October surprise.

Hmmm...the irony...

16 posted on 07/15/2004 12:48:06 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Dog
Al-Qaeda leaders "busy" in Iran: Rumsfeld

May 21, 2003

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Senior al-Qaeda leaders are "busy" in Iran, US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said amid reports that terrorist attacks in Saudi Arabia were directed by a small cell of terrorist leaders in Iran.

"Just from a factual standpoint there is no question but that there have been and are today senior al-Qaeda leaders in Iran and they are busy," he said. ...

17 posted on 07/15/2004 12:49:16 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Dog
Dog, there's a map with coordinates at Namak Abrud
18 posted on 07/15/2004 12:52:57 PM PDT by pt17
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To: bagman

That makes sense, but I thought AQ wanted to get rid of the Shia's too.

Are they waiting to fight that battle too?


19 posted on 07/15/2004 12:57:26 PM PDT by Saint Athanasius ("I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dog
Shouldn't we all feel safer now. They're all bundled up. And of course, we can remember this fine quip from our everso patriotic Democratic nominee /sarc.:

'The office of Senator John Kerry, the frontrunner in the Democratic presidential primary in the U.S., sent the Mehr (Tehran) News Agency an email saying that Kerry will try to repair the damage done by the incumbent president if he wins the election. The text of the e-mail follows:

'As Americans who have lived and worked extensively overseas, we have personally witnessed the high regard with which people around the world have historically viewed the United States. Sadly, we are also painfully aware of how the actions and the attitudes demonstrated by the U.S. government over the past three years have threatened the goodwill earned by presidents of both parties over many decades and put many of our international relationships at risk.

'It is in the urgent interests of the people of the United States to restore our country's credibility in the eyes of the world. America needs the kind of leadership that will repair alliances with countries on every continent that have been so damaged in the past few years, as well as build new friendships and overcome tensions with others.

'We are convinced that John Kerry is the candidate best qualified to meet this challenge. Senator Kerry has the diplomatic skill and temperament as well as a lifetime of accomplishments in [the] field of international affairs. He believes that collaboration with other countries is crucial to efforts to win the war on terror and make America safer.

'An understanding of global affairs is essential in these times, and central to this campaign. Kerry has the experience and the understanding necessary to successfully restore the United States to its position of respect within the community of nations. He has the judgment and vision necessary to assure that the United States fulfills a leadership role in meeting the challenges we face throughout the world.

'The current Administration's policies of unilateralism and rejection of important international initiatives, from the Kyoto Accords to the Biological Weapons Convention, have alienated much of the world and squandered remarkable reserves of support after 9/11. This climate of hostility affects us all, but most especially impacts those who reside overseas. Disappointment with current U.S. leadership is widespread, extending not just to the corridors of power and politics, but to the man and woman on the street as well.

'We believe John Kerry is the Democrat who can go toe-to-toe against the current Administration on national security and defense issues. We also remain convinced that John Kerry has the best chance of beating the incumbent in November, and putting America on a new course that will lead to a safer, more secure, and more stable world.'"

Would you trust this man to guard YOUR back? Not me.
20 posted on 07/15/2004 1:02:42 PM PDT by combat_boots
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To: combat_boots

No wonder the Iran government wants Kerry to win!


21 posted on 07/15/2004 1:05:13 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Dog

There are no al Qaeda thugs or leaders in Iraq, Iran or Syria.

Their USA ambassador, al Querry has told us this several times.

When the NY Slimes tells us this, we will then know that it is probably true!


22 posted on 07/15/2004 1:05:24 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We have Freeperized Whoopi, Glover, Maher,?. Hey Follywood perverts, who is next?!)
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To: DoctorZIn

This is perfect for your blog.

Gather and index this data to show how the Iranians are housing, sheltering and probably financing al Qaeda in Iran.


23 posted on 07/15/2004 1:06:54 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We have Freeperized Whoopi, Glover, Maher,?. Hey Follywood perverts, who is next?!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; backhoe; piasa

Gentlemen for your indexes.


24 posted on 07/15/2004 1:08:47 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We have Freeperized Whoopi, Glover, Maher,?. Hey Follywood perverts, who is next?!)
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To: Dog

bump


25 posted on 07/15/2004 1:09:33 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Dog

Living under tight security?

Yeah, the Iranian Moolahs are providing "tight security" to keep the good ole USA from getting their hands on these murdering bastards.


26 posted on 07/15/2004 1:13:15 PM PDT by Beckwith (Did Kerry commit murder in Viet Nam?)
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To: Dog

Thanks for the ping and the find.


27 posted on 07/15/2004 1:14:27 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We have Freeperized Whoopi, Glover, Maher,?. Hey Follywood perverts, who is next?!)
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To: Dog
All "heavily guarded" means in this context is that they're protecting the al-Qaeda guests from untoward intrusions by folks with a grudge, such as us. This isn't imprisonment, it's sanctuary.

It'll never happen, of course, but I can't help but think what an awful tragedy it would be if the nuclear facilities the Iranians don't know they have in that area were to go critical all of a sudden...

28 posted on 07/15/2004 1:14:30 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Angelus Errare; freedom44; marron

Check out the "QAEDAINIRAN" key word for past postings.


29 posted on 07/15/2004 1:14:35 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

QAEDAINIRAN = Great Key Word


30 posted on 07/15/2004 1:19:59 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We have Freeperized Whoopi, Glover, Maher,?. Hey Follywood perverts, who is next?!)
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To: Shermy

QAEDAINIRAN = Great Key Word


31 posted on 07/15/2004 1:20:14 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We have Freeperized Whoopi, Glover, Maher,?. Hey Follywood perverts, who is next?!)
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To: Dog

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/atlas_middle_east/iran.jpg
here you go


32 posted on 07/15/2004 2:16:08 PM PDT by mastercylinder (hay you get out of the gene pool)
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To: Grampa Dave
Intelligence muli-choice quiz.

(A)Al Qaeda is holed up in the area near the Afghan-Pakistan border.

(B)Al Qaeda is located in Iran on the Caspian Riviera under Iranian protection.

(C)AlQaeda is gathered in Saudi Arabia to overthrow the royal family.

(D)Al Qaeda is planning to launch an attack against the US election process.

(E) The CIA knows not that ABCD are true or false. How many of the choices do you THINK are true. If you were President, who would you attack?

33 posted on 07/15/2004 2:23:59 PM PDT by meenie
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To: meenie

These are true!

(A)Al Qaeda is holed up in the area near the Afghan-Pakistan border.

(B)Al Qaeda is located in Iran on the Caspian Riviera under Iranian protection.

(C)AlQaeda is gathered in Saudi Arabia to overthrow the royal family.

This is a perpetual wet dream the impotent al Qaeda thugs have: (D)Al Qaeda is planning to launch an attack against the US election process.

The liberals and the Buchanites want GW to attack before the election. So he won't. However, special forces will be operating in Syria and Iran. Work accidents will continue to happen in those two countries.

When al Queery is defeated this November. The Mullah Despots of Iran will plead for peace behind closed doors. There will be a regime change. Then, the choice is up to them:

1. To end up like the $oddomite.
2. Leave Iran and take up residence in Russia or France.



34 posted on 07/15/2004 2:37:32 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We have Freeperized Whoopi, Glover, Maher,?. Hey Follywood perverts, who is next?!)
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To: bagman
I also note that Iran under the Ayatollahs has long been hostile to Saudi Arabia. AQ and Iran share an interest here, as well.

Which is why it's very interesting that the Mad Mullahs have turned over the crippled shiek to the Saudis, and why they very well could turn over the rest. What they fear most of all is having SA join with the US. The Saudis are at risk and they're not about to play games. If the House of Saud joins the US against the Mad Mullahs it's all over for them, and I think they know it. They don't even have their own people on their side.

35 posted on 07/15/2004 2:46:09 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: McGavin999

You could be correct. I am not so sure though that the Iranians have much fear of Saudi Arabia per se.

We may be finding out that by GWB shaking the Middle East tree (by regime-change in Iraq) many things are changing in that neck of the woods (which was an unstated point of the invasion of Iraq all along, ne c'est pas).


36 posted on 07/15/2004 3:03:25 PM PDT by bagman
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To: zarf
The only drawback to the Iraqi operation is the chance it has limited our actions toward Iran. Iran is the biggest sponsor of terror and supports Al Kada directly.

one suspects that Bush just wanted his own launching pad for Iran from his base in Iraq. The fact that we got Saddam and released 50 million people is just gravy...and it looks like the Iraqi leadership might be willing to crack heads for us, too!

37 posted on 07/15/2004 3:13:11 PM PDT by bitt
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To: combat_boots

oooohhhh, I'd forgotten this e-mail/letter...what a Traitorous DORK!!

I want W to bring a copy of that letter to the debates! and then THROW it in sKerry's face.


38 posted on 07/15/2004 3:23:18 PM PDT by bitt
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To: All
I have just published an expanded version of this story on my new News Blog!

PS We are looking for news stories, correspondents and blog advice.


39 posted on 07/15/2004 3:50:29 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: Saint Athanasius
Al qaeda hates the Shia's and it could get ugly for Iran.

They hate each other, but remember: THEY HATE US MORE

They may disagree on religion, but they are fellow Muslims to each other.

Remember the Hitler/Stalin Pact, where they agreed to an alliance to carve up Poland.

40 posted on 07/15/2004 3:58:46 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

The general Iranian populace is Muslim and they love us, but i do agree about the Government and Al Queda connection.


41 posted on 07/15/2004 4:46:28 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: Dog; Coop; Cap Huff; jeffers; Shermy; Angelus Errare
MAP TIME!

8   “The Saudi-owned newspaper said the terrorist leaders were living under tight protection, some of them in villas in the Namak Abrud region, near the town of Chalous on the Caspian coast, 100 kilometres (60 miles) north of Tehran. Others are living in Lavizan, in the north-west of the capital, and which also houses a large military complex, it added.”

Namak Abrud:   Populated place, located within the red circle in the first map below.

Chalous:   Native name: Chalus, a populated place found on the map about 20 km east of Namak Abrud.

Lavizan:   A suburb of Tehran, located 13 km NNE of the center of Tehran. While Lavizan is not shown on the map below, it is located approximately at the top of the letter "T" in Tehran.


multimap.com | The above map came from MultiMap.com. Click the logo on the left to visit the best site on the internet for accurate and detailed maps of the entire world.

 
To orient yourself regionally, find Tehran on the map below and in the map above.


--Boot Hill

42 posted on 07/15/2004 4:47:24 PM PDT by Boot Hill
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To: Boot Hill

Not a bit surprising that the AQ foot soldiers are dying in the trenches and their leaders are leading the good life in a Caspian Sea resort villa.


43 posted on 07/15/2004 4:50:47 PM PDT by Dog (Today is Day 13 of the Joe Wilson abduction.)
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To: Boot Hill

Access to both Tehran and the Caspian.

Surprise, surprise.

A case of choice says the US has no comment.


44 posted on 07/15/2004 5:09:44 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: Grampa Dave

"Work accidents..."

Well put.


45 posted on 07/15/2004 5:26:37 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: bitt

"...one suspects that Bush just wanted his own launching pad for Iran from his base in Iraq..."

You can't drive on Tehran with 23 unopposed divisions on your left flank.

Then too, Iraq had value in the following equation:

2 towers = 2 flags

The only real question left is whether Syria will cave after Tehran falls, or will they force us to implement regime change there as well. My money says they cave, and that Nayaf and his followers in SA hasten to follow them.


46 posted on 07/15/2004 5:30:56 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: jeffers

I am more interested in the shake and bake stage, LONG before ground troops go in.


47 posted on 07/15/2004 6:13:25 PM PDT by bitt
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To: Shermy; nuconvert; Dog; dirtboy
Good call!

Anyone who has read anything about international Islamic (especially Sunni-centered) terrorism over the past decade, from Bergen, to Bodansky to Emerson to Pipes, would have already realized the enormous role played by Iran (in association with The Sudan) as a facilitator for Bin Laden and Zawahiri's diabolical plans.

Stretching back to Islamic Jihad's devastating attacks on the Egyptian embassy in Islamabad, these cretins have been attempting to destabilize unfavorable governments and bolster those that they consider to be hospitable to their overall aims.

The Iranian dictatorship falls under that rubric pretty nicely, don't you think?

48 posted on 07/15/2004 6:20:37 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("He must have committed a grave sin. I swear to you, Satan himself could have pissed in that water.")
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To: Boot Hill; Dog; jeffers

If you remember, Lavizan came up in the news a couple of weeks ago. There were aerial photos (satellite photos?). It was one of the locations reported to have been bull-dozed over....one of the now-you-see-it, now-you-don't nuclear facilities.


49 posted on 07/15/2004 6:37:44 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Some people can tell time by looking at the sun, but I've never been able to make out the numbers)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

Thanks for the ping.


50 posted on 07/15/2004 6:53:35 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Some people can tell time by looking at the sun, but I've never been able to make out the numbers)
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