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HILLARY'S ADVICE TO PREZ
NY Post ^ | 7/31

Posted on 07/31/2004 12:05:21 AM PDT by ambrose

July 31, 2004 -- BOSTON — Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton warned President Bush against evoking too many 9/11 images in his re-election campaign and the GOP convention in New York or Americans would reject him as an "exploiter." Clinton said that while Bush, as commander in chief, is entitled to bring up and talk about the 9/11 terror attacks, relying on it too heavily will invite criticism and ultimately backfire.

"It has to be done in a careful way or people will think he's exploiting it," said Clinton in an interview with The Post at the end of the Democratic convention.

"He is the president, so he has a right to bring it up, but if he's not careful, people will think he's exploiting it" for partisan advantage, said Clinton.

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To: BigSkyFreeper
Exactly. Bringing up 9/11 before the public is necessary in order to remind the American people that John F*ckin's posture of inaction WILL get us all killed. Which is exactly why Hillary doesn't want President Bush to use the one most powerful issue in his arsenal since it reminds people of the President's qualities as a leader and as a human being. For the Hate Bush crowd, that's verboten. There's nothing wrong with being partisan and if I may be permitted to say so, one of the fundamental problems with our national life is we've tried so hard to obscure the differences between our national parties that we've forgotten they do matter. Their philosophies ARE different and amount to literally a matter of life and death. The GOP should reject Hillary's advice and move to sharpen the differences between themselves and the Democrats on the issue of national security. Its obvious the best way to reply to the Democrats is to put 9/11 front and center and remind the American people we still live in a dangerous time and ONLY one party can be trusted to ensure our national security. Hint: its not the one that met this month in Boston.
51 posted on 07/31/2004 1:11:22 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: xrmusn

The speculation I heard and considered a possibility was Sec. Genl of the UN .. with Hillary as Pres of the USA .. they could virtually strip America of everything.

That ought to scare the fire out of everybody.


52 posted on 07/31/2004 1:19:56 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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To: onyx

American citizens ... and our enemies and critics throughout the world ... need to viscerally revisit that day. It is THE defining historical event, THE seminal experience of the past four years - for America and the World.

We were brutally ambush attacked by murderous enemies on that day. They delivered death, destruction and mortal jihad to our doorstep without mercy or provocation. They announced their intent to further wage their war of death and destruction on America and Americans, on our soil without warning and at every opportunity.

George W. Bush has dedicated his every ounce of will, every day, to the protection of American lives, civilization and economy from subsequent assault from this lethal, stateless enemy peril. We are engaged in a grim War for our survival, and this President is taking the battle to our enemies with relentless resolve wherever they live. That's an approach, a philosophy and a track record open for scrutiny by the American people.

9/11 matters. Forever more. The traitorous Democrats, the vile Jersey Girls, and every other America hater here and abroad who wants to make 9/11 into an untouchable, meaningless political icon can go to Hell.

There was no separating the resolute engagement, sacrifice and human carnage of Iwo Jima, Bataan and Okinawa from the events of December 7, 1941. To marginalize and disconnect the unprovoked death and assault on America at Pearl Harbor to politically undermine the Commander in Chief, and thus the successful prospects of winning the subsequent War, would have been considered nothing short of treason in the campaign of 1944.

The Democrats, in the ugly depth of their hearts, wish the War on Terror being prosecuted by George W. Bush to fail. They wish to make 9/11 a repressed memory, disconnected from our victories and sacrifice in Afghanistan, Iraq and within our borders. The agents of the left, the ugly anti-American idiots we just watched blubber-dancing and celebrating their pagan cult in Boston, are traitors and enemies who can not, and will not, prevail.


53 posted on 07/31/2004 1:29:23 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: GeronL
Anyone stupid enough to take advice from the other side is too stupid to win

And do you seriously think he is going to take her advice.

If you do, I have a bridge to Brooklyn for sale.

54 posted on 07/31/2004 1:35:41 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: Barlowmaker

Its like Belly Girl used to say with an emendation: DEMOCRATS, YOU SHUT THE HELL UP: WE'LL SAVE CIVILIZATION


55 posted on 07/31/2004 1:36:57 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Dane

I know, he won't even read it.


56 posted on 07/31/2004 1:37:23 AM PDT by GeronL (geocities.com/geronl is back)
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To: goldstategop
If I had 5 minutes with President Bush either in person or on the phone, I would tell him to just ignore the rantings of Hillary Clinton and go forth, let the American people decide in November. I truly believe the American people feel safer with President Bush in the White House, rather than gambling at the thought of Kerry in the White House and wondering if he's as capable as Bush when it comes to preempting attacks. According to Kerry himself from his own acceptance speech, he'd rather sit on his hands and wait for us to be attacked, just for the sake of keeping America stronger and building alliances.

I wouldn't be surprised if Rudy actually devoted most his entire speech at the upcoming RNC convention to 9/11. Both Rudy and President Bush were deeply affected by the events of 9/11, they've never forgotten, nor should we. It's unconscionable in my mind that Hillary wants to roll back the clock as if it were 9/10 as if 9/11 never happened.

57 posted on 07/31/2004 1:39:55 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (While Bush plays "rope a dope", Kerry/Edwards play "grope a dope".)
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To: goldstategop

Ahhh.. Belly girl.. I am seeing visions of a photograph that is about to be posted by some Freeper.


58 posted on 07/31/2004 1:48:41 AM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: ambrose

First Kerry guarantees Bill Koffi Annan's UN job, then Hill gets to be Queen of the Universe after she takes stuff away from us for 'the common good'.


59 posted on 07/31/2004 1:51:37 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Diddley

Hill may not be Queen of the Universe yet, but everytime she opens her big mouth she displays unbelievable hubris. Where does she get off lecturing the President of the United States on anything? Other than getting into college and presumably law school, she never accomplished a single thing on her own. She rode her sociopathic husband's coattails from one luxury perk after another. That's why she's the junior senator from NY. She's as much of an empty suit as Kerry is. Neither one did anything of substance in their entire lives and they know it. They haven't even a nodding acquaintance with integrity and honor.


60 posted on 07/31/2004 1:57:44 AM PDT by hershey
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To: hershey
Neither one did anything of substance in their entire lives and they know it. They haven't even a nodding acquaintance with integrity and honor.

You are soooo right.

61 posted on 07/31/2004 2:22:58 AM PDT by Diddley (To Liberals (and Frenchies): If you have a good story, why lie?)
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To: mindspy
"I forgot the main point, Chelsea was even near there. Apparently she wasn't aware of lie the beast that spawned her had told and told some paper she was several miles away at a friends house."


Yes Hillry tried to make it all about herself and her dimwit daughter blamed President Bush and the "TAX" cuts!!!
62 posted on 07/31/2004 2:34:51 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: ambrose

Freeper alert - Get out your 9/11 photos and start posting.


63 posted on 07/31/2004 3:14:39 AM PDT by chainsaw (VOTE AMERICAN - VOTE REPUBLICAN)
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To: ambrose

FIRST OF ALL HILLARY....everything President George W. Bush does is tasteful, unlike you, you tasteless liar.


64 posted on 07/31/2004 3:52:22 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: All

I yield to no one in my disdain for Hillary.

But for once, I am convinced that her advice is sincerely offered with the goal of advancing W's prospects.

If there is anyone who devoutly wishes Pres. Bush's re-election, it is Hillary Rodham Clinton.


65 posted on 07/31/2004 4:44:24 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: ambrose

oooohhhhhh I thank you for your valueless advice....now shut up


66 posted on 07/31/2004 4:50:06 AM PDT by The Wizard (Demonrats: enemies of America)
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To: ambrose
"It has to be done in a careful way or people will think he's exploiting it," said Clinton in an interview with The Post at the end of the Democratic convention. "He is the president, so he has a right to bring it up, but if he's not careful, people will think he's exploiting it" for partisan advantage, said Clinton.

I corrected this. Adding back the actual words verbatim:

"You know, It has to be done in a careful way, you know or people, you know, will think, you know, he's exploiting it, you know" said Clinton in an interview with The Post at the end of the Democratic convention. "He is, you know, the president, you know, so he has a right, you know, to bring it up, you know, but if he's not careful, you know, people will think, you know, he's exploiting it, you know" for partisan advantage, you know, said Clinton.

67 posted on 07/31/2004 4:50:26 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Strategery - "W" plays poker with one hand and chess with the other.)
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To: ambrose
She has a point about it possibly backfiring from over-exploitaition, but we all KNOW she'd rather Bush never say another blessed word on the subject, which ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.

Bush and Rove need to find the perfect balance and "SHOVE IT" up HER.......well, you know.

68 posted on 07/31/2004 5:01:22 AM PDT by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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To: ambrose

Hillary needs to crawl back to Janet 'the butcher of waco' Reno, and spend some of that old quality time together. A match made in hell by satan and his dnc comrades. Bush/Cheney 2004


69 posted on 07/31/2004 5:08:01 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (These Colors Never Run( 7.62))
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To: ambrose

Shrillary giving "helpful" advice to George W. Bush?

Something evil this way comes......


70 posted on 07/31/2004 5:15:56 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: ambrose

Now thats JUST what W needs is hitlery giving him advice ...
SHEESH !!!!


71 posted on 07/31/2004 5:17:22 AM PDT by sawmill trash ("LET'S ROLL")
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To: ambrose
I vas only tryink to be helpful...
72 posted on 07/31/2004 5:18:54 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: television is just wrong

Why does she always have to yell?



Thats what stupid people, unable to get their argument across resort to.
If she was a little smarter she could have the sheeple eating out of her hand.


73 posted on 07/31/2004 5:20:03 AM PDT by sawmill trash ("LET'S ROLL")
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To: ambrose

Hillary knows what she's talking about here. Exploiting the Oklahoma bombing is exactly how her bulbous nosed husband got himself re-elected. Remember "Rush did it" ?


74 posted on 07/31/2004 5:24:50 AM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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To: ambrose
Or is she now in the tank for Kerry, having been promised a Supreme Court appointment?

You know, that'd not be a bad idea for BUSH after he wins...Nominate Hilly-Bob (though not Slick...after all, he lost his law license, and we can't have that), Bruce Lindsay, Lanny Davis, and a half dozen other liberals for the High Court, knowing that a simple GOP majority will keep them right where the are...Forevermore OFF the Court!

THEN, roll 'em through AN OBJECTIVE reaming of their PROFESSIONAL lives before batting them down "for good reason".

That should roast a few political careers, and Bush can (wink, wink) say "Hey, I gave 'em a shot. Tough luck and let's try it with the next guy."

75 posted on 07/31/2004 5:28:57 AM PDT by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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To: ambrose

After all, she did so well advising Clinton.


76 posted on 07/31/2004 5:33:27 AM PDT by P.O.E. ("Higher Taxes, er, um, I mean, Hope Is On The Way!")
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To: ambrose
My fellow Americans, wow, what a strange journey this nation has been on since our last convention. From the fiasco of Florida to the utter destruction of so many here in New York, all of us have been on an emotional roller coaster that is unparalleled in any portion of our history since the times of the civil war.

But today, I have good things to report to this convention: The nation which sponsored those despicable acts of terror against us is about to hold free, democratic elections. A nation that the mighty Soviet empire couldn't defeat fell apart within weeks of our entry into their country. We found and arrested many of those who felt that the best way to govern a country was to hold public executions in a stadium built for sports.

Of course, the anti-war folks out there have quietly forgotten this, charging that I have done nothing to fight this war on terrorism. In a way, they're right. I haven't done as much as the brave soldiers who are on the front lines today in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's the worst thing about being commander in chief; having to make tough decisions and see them through. Because your decisions affect the lives of brave young men and women. And when you make decisions, you have to stick with them.

Now, I gotta admit, I'm sort of confused by my opponents position. In the past, he has demanded foot soldiers be sent into Iraq. He even voted for this, and now he's trying to change his mind. Which is a bit par for the course; he didn't want to kick Iraq out of Kuwait either.

If he's so eager to report for duty, there's a seat begging for his attention in the United States senate, and it'd be rather nice if he got back to his job.

That's one of the things that always amazes me about these campaigns. How can you stand there and tell the American people what you want to do when you've been in power to put forward those ideas for a generation? If these ideas that they're tossing around are so good, how come I don't see them on my desk ready to be signed?

I take my job seriously, and I hope that all of you will join together and give a resounding vote of confidence in my continuing to perform that job for another four years. Sure, there have been some rough spots. I won't deny that. But I think I've done a pretty good job. The economy is recovering from the double hits of the dot com bust and the corporate scandals, not to mention, as I'm sure my opponent would like me to avoid saying, the brutal attack on our nation.

Jobs are being created despite the wishes of those who want to put back into place the heavy burden of taxes which I fought hard to get lifted. If you want to see those tax breaks go away, the fastest way is to elect someone else.

I could go on for nearly an hour, but it has been the habit of this party to not waste words. I promise to do as best as I can, as I have done, for the next four years, and to do that, you need to go out and vote for me come election day.

I'm George Walker Bush, and I'm not just now reporting for duty.
77 posted on 07/31/2004 6:01:15 AM PDT by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

'If I had 5 minutes with President Bush either in person or on the phone, I would tell him to just ignore the rantings of Hillary Clinton and go forth, let the American people decide in November. I truly believe the American people feel safer with President Bush in the White House, rather than gambling at the thought of Kerry in the White House and wondering if he's as capable as Bush when it comes to preempting attacks. According to Kerry himself from his own acceptance speech, he'd rather sit on his hands and wait for us to be attacked, just for the sake of keeping America stronger and building alliances.'


Does anyone have a good e-mail to a connection to the RNC or KAREN HUGHES, where Freepers could make suggestions to the campaign staff for images/commercials?

If they want the female vote, all they need to do is show "interviews" of mother with their children who are very nervous about their family's safety...

It is all well and good to talk about creating jobs, etc., but we need to be ALIVE and have a place to to work ....


78 posted on 07/31/2004 6:29:24 AM PDT by bitt
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To: ambrose

Here is a list of things I'd be willing to take advise from Hillary on:

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79 posted on 07/31/2004 6:41:28 AM PDT by samtheman (www.georgewbush.com)
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To: ambrose; lavrenti
Clinton said that while Bush, as commander in chief, is entitled to bring up and talk about the 9/11 terror attacks, relying on it too heavily will invite criticism and ultimately backfire.

What nerve! This is the same *bitch* who went on national TV and made up a story about Chelsea Hubble jogging around the towers with a grande latte -- and then Chelsea herself made up yet another easily debunked tale!

That was a slap in the face to every family who lost a loved one that morning. They undoubtedly wish that their loved ones were as far from the danger as Webb's kid was.

The Clintons are just awful, disgraceful creatures.

80 posted on 07/31/2004 7:06:28 AM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Which FReeper likes to threaten to beat up women?)
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To: ambrose

"So is the witch giving genuine advice, concerned that the issue could backfire on Bush and thus hurt her chances?

Or is she now in the tank for Kerry, having been promised a Supreme Court appointment?'

I wouldn't trust her or doofus Bill either way. They need to keep their chops out of the Bush/Kerry race. They are thee most ingratiating self serving parasites on the planet. They care only about themselves. sHillary, Carpet munching Old bag


81 posted on 07/31/2004 7:12:18 AM PDT by SunnySide
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To: risk
Hillary always has that CRAZED wide eyed look during her speeches like past dictators. They don't talk with or to the audience, they talk AT the people.
82 posted on 07/31/2004 7:15:17 AM PDT by SunnySide
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To: GmbyMan
"Let there be no mistake: I will never hesitate to use force when it is required. Any attack will be met with a swift and certain response."

Now, I am glad to hear that Kerry will hit someone or something AFTER we are attacked but that is not what the job of the Commander in Chief.

Well, at least retaliating after an attack would be a step up from the Sink Master and his wimpy refusal to do much of anything in the face of escalating terrorism.

But the fact is that we have to move heaven and earth to make sure that we pre-empt attacks and that another morning like 9/11 NEVER AGAIN happens! Merely hitting back after thousands of innocent Americans have been brutally slaughtered just isn't enough. We need something better than a prevent defense.

83 posted on 07/31/2004 7:15:44 AM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Which FReeper likes to threaten to beat up women?)
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To: BigWaveBetty

That would have to be one hell of a HUGE sock, to fit in her cakehole!


84 posted on 07/31/2004 7:16:22 AM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Which FReeper likes to threaten to beat up women?)
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To: television is just wrong

Don't you mean screech?

You'd think someone in her position would get a voice coach.


85 posted on 07/31/2004 7:19:55 AM PDT by altura (Kerry got my contempt the old-fashioned way--he earned it!)
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To: Just mythoughts

The gall of those people is maddening. I wish someone would take her on about her comment about Bush, in public.


86 posted on 07/31/2004 10:45:15 AM PDT by mindspy
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To: ambrose
"He is the president, so he has a right to bring it up, but if he's not careful, people will think he's exploiting it" for partisan advantage, be reminded of how well he acted in those days, and compare against the wusses who suddenly have a better plan

"That, simply cannot stand," said Clinton.

87 posted on 07/31/2004 10:59:11 AM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)
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To: SunnySide
Hillary always has that CRAZED wide eyed look during her speeches like past dictators.

My experience has been quite the opposite with her. She always seems normal, intelligent, and all too reasonable. You might have watched her more often than I have, though. I find her English to be the most disturbing thing of all. Seh calmly says things like:

Within the context of a society that we perceive -- now we can talk about reality, and I would like to talk about reality sometime, authentic reality, inauthentic reality, and what we have to accept of what we see -- but our perception of it is that it hovers often between the possibility of disaster and the potentiality for imaginatively responding to men's needs. There's a very strange conservative strain that goes through a lot of New Left, collegiate protests that I find very intriguing because it harkens back to a lot of the old virtues, to the fulfillment of original ideas. And it's also a very unique American experience. It's such a great adventure. If the experiment in human living doesn't work in this country, in this age, it's not going to work anywhere.
-- Wellesley commencement speech, 1969
That's insane talk. But in the "context" of a commencement speech on an elite college campus, it comes across as being quite reasonable.
88 posted on 07/31/2004 11:01:05 AM PDT by risk
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To: ambrose


89 posted on 07/31/2004 11:49:26 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: ambrose
relying on it too heavily will invite criticism and ultimately backfire.

Sort of like the way Kerry's "Vietnam" strategy has backfired.

We lost in Vietnam, largely because of people like him.

90 posted on 07/31/2004 11:54:58 AM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: risk

"Hillary always has that CRAZED wide eyed look during her speeches like past dictators."
"My experience has been quite the opposite with her. She always seems normal, intelligent, and all too reasonable."

Yeah I am sure when she is talking in small groups or one to one but when she takes a podium she goes into that wide eyed fixated diabolical mode.



"Within the context of a society that we perceive -- now we can talk about reality, and I would like to talk about reality sometime, authentic reality, inauthentic reality, and what we have to accept of what we see -- but our perception of it is that it hovers often between the possibility of disaster and the potentiality for imaginatively responding to men's needs. There's a very strange conservative strain that goes through a lot of New Left, collegiate protests that I find very intriguing because it harkens back to a lot of the old virtues, to the fulfillment of original ideas. And it's also a very unique American experience. It's such a great adventure. If the experiment in human living doesn't work in this country, in this age, it's not going to work anywhere."
-- Wellesley commencement speech, 1969 - "That's insane talk. "


Geebers, it's insane gibberish in a bottle of snake oil. Hillarys Wellesly speech is pure over lapping extastential philosophy tripe. And no one dares stand alone to refute it cause they fear(ed) they would get labeled "stupid". sHillary peddling Emporers rags.


91 posted on 07/31/2004 1:16:15 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: ambrose
"He is the president, so he has a right to bring it up, but if he's not careful, people will think he's exploiting it" for partisan advantage, said Clinton.

Why, whatever would she know about exploiting something for partisan advantage?

92 posted on 07/31/2004 1:45:44 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: mindspy

"The gall of those people is maddening. I wish someone would take her on about her comment about Bush, in public."


I agree. I will rejoice the day she is held to account.


93 posted on 07/31/2004 5:05:50 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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