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Posted on 08/03/2004 10:26:47 PM PDT by kdwmson

Hate to re-open the Kerry-shotgun-hunting can of worms, but check out the whole quote: “I go out with my trusty 12-gauge double-barrel, crawl around on my stomach. I track and move and decoy and play games and try to outsmart them. You know, you kind of play the wind. That's hunting.”

Decoys? Using decoys to hunt deer in Mass. is all sorts of illegal. Not that anybody needed more evidence that the guy is full of BS, and I don't mean buckshot.


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To: Minuteman23

As I recall, he came up with "Mannie Ortiz" -- apparently conflating Mannie Ramirez and David Ortez (I hope I have the names right -- I'm not much of a sports fan, which is yet another reason I'll never run for president!); I did see in one FR posting that there is a big Kerry contributor named Mannie Ortiz, but I only saw it the once.


51 posted on 08/04/2004 1:07:40 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Wondervixen

Kerry is more off base than usual. (No pun intended) Thanks for the info.


52 posted on 08/04/2004 1:13:48 AM PDT by Minuteman23
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To: maryz

Thanks for the info.


53 posted on 08/04/2004 1:14:36 AM PDT by Minuteman23
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To: Minuteman23
I was partially WRONG about Eddie Yost's interim managing career, Minuteman...

Digging out my husband's old Encylopedia Baseball, in 1963, Yost was a third base coach In D.C. when his old Senator's ex-teammate, Mickey Vernon was fired as manager.

After letting it be known he'd only do the job until a permanent manager was hired, the Senators traded Jimmy Piersall to the Mets for arthritic-knee'd slugger Gil Hodges, who was ready to call it a playing career and begin managing.

Yost went with Hodges when he left to return to the Mets as manager in 1968. A year later, they were World Champions!

Later on, Yost became third base coach in Boston, but his one game 9-3 loss to the WHITE Sox is recorded as TYING the shortest managerial stints of all time.

Incidentally, a doofus by the name of TED TURNER (Atlanta) made that same list on 5/11/77 with a 2-1 loss to Pittsburgh before NL President Chub Feeney ordered him out of the dugout and back into the stands with all the other drunks.

54 posted on 08/04/2004 2:50:35 AM PDT by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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To: Minuteman23
In contrast, George Bush will be on this week's Roland Martin fishing show.

It strikes me that he is the kind of guy you'd like to go fishing with and I think it'll be a good program showing him outside the political spotlight and in the "real world".

55 posted on 08/04/2004 3:49:25 AM PDT by capt. norm (Rap is to music what the Etch-A-Sketch is to art.)
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To: FL_engineer
Interesting picture. I believe that this picture is from Kerry's Iowa pheasant hunt. I occasionally hunt in Iowa and I believe that Iowa law requires wearing a blaze orange hat. How comes it that Comrade Kerry has no hat. I remember that Kerry complained about the cost of his license for this hunt. Maybe he didn't want to mess up his expensive do too.
56 posted on 08/04/2004 3:54:19 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: LittleRedRooster
hmm I thought you used rifles with scopes not shotguns to hunt deer? I'm not a hunter, just a handgun carrier, but it seems to me a shotgun is more for use on birds and small game like squirrel & rabbits, not big game animals like deer. A 30/30 would be a better choice of a deer hunting gun.

My uncle Pete was a big time, he went every year to Iron Mt to hunt, he used a 30/30 on deer and bear and a 12 gauge shotgun on squirrel and rabbits.

Very successful hunter, rarely bought a piece of meat at the grocery store.

57 posted on 08/04/2004 5:37:17 AM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: skimbell

Where's his eye protection?????????


58 posted on 08/04/2004 5:42:22 AM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: Bob
From all indications, kerry's a total fraud when it comes to being a fan of major league baseball in general and the Red Sox in particular.

The thing is, people don't vote for a President because he is a fan of their favorite team. He'd get more respect by being up front and saying, "Look, I catch the occasional game but I really don't know a whole lot about it. Maybe one of you can give me some pointers the next time I swing through."

Same with the hunting nonsense. That would get him a whole lot more respect in the long run, but he seems incapable of being genuine.

59 posted on 08/04/2004 5:55:31 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: RogueIsland
The thing is, people don't vote for a President because he is a fan of their favorite team.

It's not a matter of a candidate being a fan of their team. The guy is allegedly a big Red Sox fan. He's obviously faking it (and not doing it very well).

When hilary claimed to be a life-long Yankees fan, I wish someone had had the 'nads to ask her to name three Yankee players from the '60s.

A singer, whose name I've forgotten, did just that to algore. When he told her how big a fan of hers that he was, she asked him to name a song or two that she had done. He couldn't even name one. Busted!

60 posted on 08/04/2004 6:17:18 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob
It's not a matter of a candidate being a fan of their team. The guy is allegedly a big Red Sox fan. He's obviously faking it (and not doing it very well).

That was pretty much my point -- that instead of faking all this stuff, he should just be up front about it. I think most people respect that more.

61 posted on 08/04/2004 6:20:36 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: GailA

"hmm I thought you used rifles with scopes not shotguns to hunt deer? I'm not a hunter, just a handgun carrier, but it seems to me a shotgun is more for use on birds and small game like squirrel & rabbits, not big game animals like deer. A 30/30 would be a better choice of a deer hunting gun."

Some states mandate shotguns only for deer hunting, hence "buckshot" or slugs. Their thinking was that a shotgun's limited range would make the hunt more "sporting" and the massive trauma from a slug or multiple buckshot hits would be a more humane death for the deer.

Personally I have found a well placed shot with my 30-06 is quick and quite humane.


62 posted on 08/04/2004 6:22:51 AM PDT by Zippo44 (A liberal is someone too poor to be a capitalist, and too rich to be a communist.)
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To: BykrBayb
"Maybe he got the whole idea from "The Deer Hunter."

. . .could be; would not be the first time he has borrowed from Hollywood.

Wonder if Kerry 'fishes'. . .would really like to here some 'fish stories' from him; a fisherman or not. . .he could probably tell some good ones. . .

63 posted on 08/04/2004 7:15:39 AM PDT by cricket (Don't Lose Your Head. . .Vote Republican)
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To: GailA
Where I grew up in MD, it was only legal to use shotguns to hunt deer.

Rifled slugs are the preferred ammo. Most muzzle loaders have similar ballistics to the modern shotgun/rifled slug, so there is a muzzle loader season there now.

Now I live in North Dakota, and use a .30-06 instead of a 12 gauge. (I did take my first whitetail in MD with a .410 long ago....I was 11 years old.)

64 posted on 08/04/2004 7:34:24 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (This tagline has been temporarily disconnected or is out of service....)
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To: oyez
I still don't see what the 2nd Amendment has to do with hunting.

LOL, neither do I.

65 posted on 08/04/2004 7:36:26 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Zippo44
Actually, most of the states which mandate shotgun only have fairly high population densities which could make a stray round more of a hazard. (I know, there are not supposed to be any 'stray rounds', and there are not among those I hunt with, but on this thread there is photographic proof of dangerous people in the field.)

Also, most of those areas are fairly heavily wooded. A shotgun with a slug barel and decent sights or a low-power scope permits one-shot kills out to past 100 yards, generally as far as one can see clearly in the terrain. My dad took one whitetail with a 12 ga and a 4 power scope at 175 yards, standing, (while in his 60's), but dad is one of those guys who shot 'possibles' in the military with a rifle.

As for Kerry's picture, not many states ( if any?)permit deer hunting with dogs.

66 posted on 08/04/2004 7:43:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (This tagline has been temporarily disconnected or is out of service....)
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To: devolve
Good website, DV. Kerry is a real arse !




67 posted on 08/04/2004 7:45:18 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: capt. norm; TexKat; Grampa Dave; Sacajaweau; browardchad; Shermy; ~Kim4VRWC's~; Travis McGee; ...

>>George Bush will be on this week's Roland Martin fishing show.


THANKS! I would NOT have known...

I had to look it up, but here's what two official looking
websites say for the upcoming schedule...

http://www.fishingwithrolandmartin.com/showsched.htm
http://www.olntv.com/showviewer.asp?sid=33&eps=146410#desc

Outdoor life channel (all times Eastern, I assume)...
8/6/2004 8:00 PM - 8:30 PM The Executive Pond

Roland, President Bush and his dog, Barney, fish his
personally designed and built 10 acre, ranch pond in
Crawford, Texas.

repeated....
8/6/2004 11:00 PM - 11:30 PM The Executive Pond
8/8/2004 12:00 PM - 12:30 PM The Executive Pond
8/11/2004 6:30 PM - 7:00 PM The Executive Pond
8/12/2004 6:30 PM - 7:00 PM The Executive Pond



However, Time Warner cable's schedule shows it differently
http://www.twrochester.com/programming/lineup-singlechannel.cfm?cname=Fishing/Martin

08/04/04 6:30PM
Outdoor Life Network Fishing With Roland Martin
''The Executive Pond.'' Roland, President Bush and his dog, Barney, fish his personal ranch pond in Crawford, Texas. (30 minutes) Sports, non-event Fishing

...repeated
08/05/04 6:30PM ''The Executive Pond.''
08/06/04 8:00PM ''The Executive Pond.''
08/06/04 11:00PM ''The Executive Pond.''
08/08/04 12:00PM ''The Executive Pond.''


Norm, I assume the 1st schedule is correct?


68 posted on 08/04/2004 11:11:56 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer

69 posted on 08/04/2004 5:41:26 PM PDT by Boazo (LOSE THE TAG LINE)
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To: Boazo

nice one!

Lovey probably had some choice comments for grandma as well!


70 posted on 08/04/2004 7:30:28 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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71 posted on 08/04/2004 7:58:18 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: FL_engineer

Thanks for the ping!


72 posted on 08/04/2004 8:05:01 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: potlatch
haha ! Rat-a-tat-tat !!!

73 posted on 08/04/2004 8:10:41 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: capt. norm; Grampa Dave; freeplancer; Rebelbase; Dan from Michigan; writer33; DAVEY CROCKETT; ...

My Tivo says 'Executive Pond' WAS on today, but I missed it,
DID ANYONE SEE IT?

It is supposedly on again tomorrow too, per Tivo and per
the Time Warner schedule...

Either way, it seems it will be on Friday for sure
regardless of which schedule you reference.


74 posted on 08/04/2004 8:20:02 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: kdwmson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1141857/posts


75 posted on 08/04/2004 8:22:47 PM PDT by Vision (www.MarylandBowhunter.com)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Do you think it's a bad one to post? The original picture is not a made up one, just a coincidence how it turned out.


76 posted on 08/04/2004 9:12:03 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: potlatch


Large .gif!

+4+2 SW


77 posted on 08/05/2004 1:14:39 AM PDT by devolve (TERRY KERRY: http://pro.lookingat.us/ShoveIt.html -- http://pro.lookingat.us/TeresaWendys.html --)
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To: potlatch
Do you think it's a bad one to post? The original picture is not a made up one, just a coincidence how it turned out.

No I don't think so. Here is how I've been posting it:

This is an ACTUAL pic from Reuters on July 3, 2004, NOT a Photoshop!
This post is intended as HUMOR, not intended as offense !


That's it! No more "Pull my Finger!"
You got it?


78 posted on 08/05/2004 3:02:11 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: kdwmson
More on Kerry and hunting

For some reason, this headline works better when spoken aloud ;)

79 posted on 08/05/2004 3:03:51 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: devolve

You smarty you!! That's IF I had done it at I.M. but I used the "table html" on it, LOL. You've got the placement numbers down pat!!


80 posted on 08/05/2004 8:28:26 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Thanks Meek, glad to see you've been posting it too. Good to make sure it's seen as a joke!!


81 posted on 08/05/2004 8:29:28 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: potlatch


table background!

.gifs load really fast on them

Had to space it down or use align=bottom with no center tag


82 posted on 08/05/2004 8:33:39 PM PDT by devolve (TERRY KERRY: http://pro.lookingat.us/ShoveIt.html -- http://pro.lookingat.us/TeresaWendys.html --)
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To: LittleRedRooster
I know guy's who have crawled on their bellies while stalking deer. Usually the deer have bedded down, and generally it's in fairly wide open country..........This guy's most always were using a black-powder rifle, a slug gun, or a bow.

FWIW-

83 posted on 08/05/2004 8:34:16 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I think John Kerry is a liar. And I'm Osage Orange, and I approved this ad.)
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To: kdwmson

You forgot the rest of the quote : "Be vewy, vewy quiet. I'm ahuntin' a wascally wabbit. huhuhuhu."


84 posted on 08/05/2004 8:36:38 PM PDT by patriot5186
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To: DocRock

I love that shot! It is a priceless photo on par with the algore photo of him with his head over the loaded M-16.


85 posted on 08/05/2004 8:40:08 PM PDT by Nov3
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To: VOA
Actually, you can bait deer in OK. Scents are okay too....

You can't set fires to drive them...nor use dogs either.

You cannot bait turkeys though....so, no talking to Democrats here.

FRegards,

86 posted on 08/05/2004 8:41:26 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I think John Kerry is a liar. And I'm Osage Orange, and I approved this ad.)
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To: FL_engineer

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87 posted on 08/06/2004 1:18:53 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater ((Not a Barney fan? Then click here to watch Kerry do manly stuff))
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To: capt. norm
It strikes me that he is the kind of guy you'd like to go fishing with and I think it'll be a good program showing him outside the political spotlight and in the "real world".

I agree, and I can't think of a damn thing I'd enjoy doing with Kerry (that wouldn't involve a comeuppance to him, that is).

88 posted on 08/06/2004 5:33:03 PM PDT by Minuteman23
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To: Wondervixen
Incidentally, a doofus by the name of TED TURNER (Atlanta) made that same list on 5/11/77 with a 2-1 loss to Pittsburgh before NL President Chub Feeney ordered him out of the dugout and back into the stands with all the other drunks.

Thank you for the most informative post. But this was the sentence that made my day! (Such an appropriate use of the term "doofus") :-)

89 posted on 08/06/2004 5:35:22 PM PDT by Minuteman23
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To: Osage Orange
Actually, you can bait deer in OK. Scents are okay too....

Thanks for the info...looks like my recollection is fautly.
This will save me embarassement in the future.
90 posted on 08/06/2004 6:11:52 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Minuteman23

If the animal rights crowd weren't made up of hypocrites, they'd vote for Nader.


91 posted on 10/21/2004 1:30:19 PM PDT by freakboy
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To: freakboy

I thought the same thing when I saw how ridiculous he looked in camouflage, and when he was too lazy to bring the geese out with him. A hunter my eye!


92 posted on 10/21/2004 6:03:49 PM PDT by Minuteman23
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To: kdwmson

If kerry is such a big hunter...how come he had to ask if he could get a hunting license in that place? If you are a hunter you KNOW where you are and you KNOW if it issues hunting licenses or not. You dont' have to ASK.


Also, Cheney was right. If kerry had to go out and buy cammies...then he doesn't do much goose hunting at all. Cammies should last a lifetime almost.

A HuntinG He will goooo
A hunting He will goooo
Hi ho the KERREEEEOOOO
A hunting he will go! (in his BRAND NEW CAMMIES)

Like new clothes at Easter???????????? What a dork.


93 posted on 10/22/2004 4:34:26 PM PDT by cubreporter (-I trust Rush...he will prevail in spite of the naysayers.)
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