Skip to comments.Republican-funded Group Attacks Kerry's War Record
Posted on 08/07/2004 7:42:37 AM PDT by syriacus
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Researcher, Annenberg Political Fact CheckSeveral months before he was hired by Annenberg, Goldman showed he likes to control public discourse when he wrote this letter to the GWU Hatchet
Seth Goldman earned his B.A. in political communication at George Washington University. He joined the Annenberg Public Policy Center in June, 2004 with previous experience as journalist, press relations assistant, and media researcher. He has worked at the Committee for a Democratic Majority and at Sen. Edward M. Kennedy's campaign committee. At GWU he founded and edited Sticks & Stones, an independent, student-run progressive newsmagazine.
I find personal and professional offense at the use of the phrase "alternative lifestyles" in the Feb. 17 article "Jews Discuss Alternative Lifestyles" (Web Extra).
First, nowhere is a member of the participating organizations cited using that phrase. In fact, journalistic norms require using the identification of the speaker and not imposing the prejudicial title of the writer. If The Hatchet was unsure of which phrase to use, it should have asked a spokesperson.
Second, the phrase violates the tenets of the official Associated Press Stylebook, which The Hatchet abides by - at least it did when I was a staff writer there two years ago. The AP states, "Avoid references to gay, homosexual or alternative 'lifestyle.'" Moreover, the AP recommends using the terms "gay" and "lesbian" and not "homosexual," which was also used in the article.
Liberal hacks furthering Kerrys lies.
Oh the article written by Kerry's paid biographer. Hmmm, the one that lied about the retraction. Someone needs to fact check the fact checkers.
Yet multi billionaires like George Soros are OK. Just plain pathetic.
Looks like an organized attempt to discredit the Swifties.
Not sure how effective they will be. We all need to help the Swifties.
Your biased "fact checking" doesnt connect the funding to the Republican Party, nor the RNC. Nor does it provide an explanation for why Kerry refuses to open his Military records (like Bush did) or how someone who was 4 months in country, can amass three purple hearts, a silver star, and a bronze star, all without stepping foot in a hospital.
From the Swift Boat Vet FAQ:
4. Arent you nothing more than Republican loyalists who happen to be veterans?
No. Among us are Democrats, Republicans and Independents. We are acting solely as Vietnam veterans who served in Swift Boats.
Brinkley is a lefty as well.
FNC has jumped the shark over this.
Only Hannity and Gibson showed any real stones over the ad.
At this point, 35 years later and half a world away, we see no way to resolve which of these versions of reality is closer to the truth.
But...but...isn't it their mission to dig out the truth????
"We are a nonpartisan, nonprofit, "consumer advocate" for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics."
They are well suited to be mouthpieces for Kerry....They give up when the going gets rough.
very few foundation started by rich Pubs do not end up captured by professional do-nothing lefties.....just look at the Fords and Rockefellers and Heinz.
It certainly looks like the swift boat guys have struck a nerve since the DemocRATs seem to be all over themselves trying to discredit them.
Added an official response to Senator John McCain's remarks about "Any Questions?" from Admiral Roy Hoffmann.
Which turns out to be a bit of clever obfuscation by Democratically funded Boston Globe "reporter" Michael Kranish. Click here for an analysis of how he used selective quoting to create a completely deceptive story. Interesting how the Annenberg people seem to have missed this part of the controversy entirely. Guess some facts are too good to check.
I woke up in the middle of the night just totally pissed about this. Does John Kerry have the sole right to be labelled a war hero just because he went into public office? What about these men? They performed the same duties as JFK but aren't trumpeting it around on their shoulder saying, "look at me, I'm a war hero!" This is total BS and the elites in the media should be ashamed. These vets are getting the same treatment they received upon returning home. It is so disgustingly shameful that all these media goons are gushing over Kerry and his war heroism and then when these men come forward they are called Republican shills. Talk about a double standard. THE MEDIA MAKES ME SICK!
The Marxist liars are worried.
"But one accuser quickly recants"
Absolutely! I went to the link for the email addy to contact them and quickly sent them an email to please check all the *facts* before they report the *facts* which are misleading. That if they did a little research before presenting *facts* they would have known that Elliot said Kranis and the Globe misquoted him and that he did NOT recant or retract his statement.
I have to go to an appointment, but could you check and see which Elliott affadavit the author is quoting, please. If he does not have the second affadavit, you need to ask him , why not.
18. What else can I do to help?
E-mail this information and the quotes from Swift Boat Veterans for Truth from the initial press conference to as many people as you can. Ask them to e-mail it to their friends. With few exceptions, the mainstream media is trying to ignore our story. We need the help of every American to prompt Senator Kerry to disclose what he did and did not do in Vietnam, and the importance of all this to our country.
If Senator Kerrys claims about his military service are true, then he has no reason to further delay fully disclosing his records since the missing documents will support those claims.
But in fact his claims are not true. We were there. We saw what did and did not happen, and we intend to set the record straight.
Point everyone to:
Original press release:
SWIFT BOAT VETERANS FOR TRUTH FORMS ORGANIZATION
Goals are to restore honor of Vietnam vets; Rebut John Kerrys unanswered lies; Bring the truth about Kerrys service to the public
(May 4-Washington, D.C.) Today, a group of Swift Boat veterans from the unit in which Senator John Kerry served announced the formation of an organization, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. The organization has been formed in order to bring the truth about Kerry to the American people. The organization intends to discuss Kerrys war crimes charges, Kerrys record and to request that Kerry authorize the Department of Defense to release the originals and the complete files relating to his military service and medical military records.
The group released a historic letter expressing the overwhelming opposition of those who served with Kerry or in his unit to his misrepresentation of his record and the units record. The letter is signed by Swift Boat veterans at all levels and from the entire political spectrum; the entire chain of command during the period Kerry served in Vietnam; veterans who participated in the engagements resulting in his medals; and the majority of officers who served with him in Coastal Division 11, the unit in which he spent most of his four month tour of duty. Public circulation of the letter began one week ago and collected hundreds of signatures. The signers already make up a majority of the Swift Vets whose addresses can be found. The complete record of signers and comments will be posted on Swiftvets.com.
Rear Admiral Roy Hoffmann, USN (retired), Commander of Coastal Surveillance Force Vietnam (Commander Task Force 115) and chair of the group said, I signed this letter because I do not believe John Kerry is fit to be the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States. This is not a political issue. It is a matter of his judgment, truthfulness, reliability, loyalty and trust - all absolute tenets of command.
We dont understand why Kerry would make the centerpiece of his campaign an exaggerated account of his four month service in Vietnam 33 years ago, but since he is, we believe the American public is entitled to the truth about his service and about his charges about war crimes and atrocities, explained John ONeill, a Swift Boat veteran who took charge of Kerrys boat a few months after Kerrys departure and who debated Kerry in 1971.
The Swift Boat Vets for Truth include the entire chain of command above Kerry: Lt. Commander Grant Hibbard, Lt. Commander Elliott, Captain Charles Plumly, Captain Adrian Lonsdale USCG (retired) and Rear Admiral Hoffmann (retired), as well as enlisted men, officers, men who served with Mr. Kerry, men who served in the same group of Swift boats and men intimately familiar with the operations and conduct of Swift boat operations during the war. The group also includes James Zumwalt, Lt. Colonel, U.S.M.C. (retired), representing his father, Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, and brother, Lt. Elmo Zumwalt III, both deceased.
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is a Special Purpose Political Action Committee.
Chairman, Rear Admiral Roy Hoffmann (retired)
Treasurer, Weymouth Wey Symmes
PO Box 26184
Alexandria, VA 22313
At least the Boston Snotglob "reporter" says that one of the veterans has recanted.
That's not what the veteran says.
Who ya gonna believe - a veteran, or a Left-wing indoctrinated "journalist"?
Yes. One of their two researchers, Seth Goldman, worked "at Sen. Edward M. Kennedy's campaign committee."
Here's some information on Brooks Jackson, the Director of Annenberg Political Fact Check
Brooks Jackson is a journalist who covered Washington and national politics for 32 years, reporting in turn for The Associated Press, the Wall Street Journal and CNN. At CNN he pioneered the "adwatch" and "factcheck" form of stories debunking false and misleading political statements starting with the Presidential election of 1992. His investigative reporting for The AP and the Journal won several national awards. He is the author of two books: Honest Graft: Big Money and the American Political Process (Knopf, 1988) and Broken Promise: Why the Federal Election Commission Failed (Twentieth Century Fund: 1990).
Hmmmmmmmmm. Didn't I see the Annenberg Center described as 'non-partisan' on another post this morning? At the very least, they should do some more 'fact-checking'. They seem to have left out a few here.
I think the buttocks wound was when Kerry thew a grenade into a small boat filled with rice and he got too close. The arm injury occurred when he was thrown against the bulkhead of his pilot house as the mine exploded. If I have the story correct.
Yes. They are.
Already posted--the Globe and it's pro-Kerry writer LIED about Elliott's retraction. This article snips and dices Elliott's "retraction" statement to make the outcome what this guy at Annenburg wants.
Since Kerry's mouthpiece works for the Globe which is owned by the NY Times, isn't this the same as saying Kerry says one has recanted.
Who would the public believe if they knew the accused (Kerrry) was again lying about his accusers?
Goebbels was nothing compared to the DNC & DNPartei!
Yesterday a post was made stating that the gentleman you say retracted his statement actually did not retract it. Someone better get their facts straight.
I thought it was Moveon.org.
Harken back to the (still-running but totally-refuted) Bush-AWOL non-story. A story which first was made 'credible' by the likes of 'Lumpy Riefenstahl,' AKA Michael Moore, then covered to death by the usual suspects at the NYT, NBC, ABC, CBS, and the rest.
No mention is made, or is not made that 'the story'against Bush is being advanced by partisan elements. No, the media picks them up as though they have merit (despite having already investigated them in 2000).
Now consider that triple-draft-dodger, William the Impeached received scant mainstream press investigation into his military records.
Bottom Line: Big News is in a Death-Spiral, and may not ever fully recover. Its too easy to pick them apart. Their operations will continue to shrink unless they can be subsidized. And the only thing going for them is if they can convince the US body politic to return some of their democrat allies to positions of power.
Free Republic and other sites like it is where this is all taking place. We are laying bare the big lie that supposedly objective media is truly unbiased.
Yep. It seems that FNC is drifting to the rats side just like C-span did years ago. If they keep it up, I don't see any point in paying extra satellite costs to get FNC.
That "someone" is you, pctech.
Follow the threads here and you would have seen the new affidavit by Capt. Elliot which affirms his first affidavit and which asserts that the globe "reporter" lied.
Be an informed citizen by doing your own research here rather than dropping catty comments displaying your ignorance of an important event.
Yes. But, we may have to wait until Monday, for them to correct their mistake.
I'll bet the Networks use this Factcheck web page to bolster the "facts" they broadcast this weekend. They will do that even though they know Elliot was not really recanting his statement.
If I understand correctly (thanks to what I've learned on FR) Elliot was merely making clear, in his second statement, that Kerry's and Kranish's published story says Kerry shot the young man in the back.
Elliot has no first hand knowledge of the event and is relying on Kerry's own admission for this version of Kerry's story.
Don't expect them to correct the facts. They have their lie and they will run with it. Right out of the Dem play book. With them it is not, "lie often enough and the lie takes on the ring of truth." It is lie once, the media will report it and then forever quote it.
We all know about the use of half-truths, deceptive labels, out of context quotes by the "impartial, unbiased" media. They are so afraid to let the American people see all the actual facts and decide for themselves the truth. I have no doubts that John Kerry LIED then and is LYING now. My experiences lead me to this conclusion. John Kerry's actions confirm my conclusions. Look at his voting record in congress, that is when he decided it important for himself to be in attendance. Look at his actions when he was in country and came back to the states. At every step he has fought any program to protect and defend the American people. Look deeply at his record, go back further to his youth and work forward, looking closely at every thing that happened before he "volunteered" to join the navy. Do not discount any thing you see as minor, all activities he perpetuated may no longer be in full view. His money has allowed him to bury events in his past, but he has missed things. I challenge you all to dig and dig deeply. Do this to benefit all Americans, not just a few. Time is short. Godspeed to all.
Yes. And you are correct to put the word non-partisan in quotes. :-)
The Director of Annenberg Political Fact Check did "fact checking" for CNN in the past.
One of the two researchers for Factcheck worked on a Ted Kennedy campaign and likes to berate people who fail to use politically correct language.
Turn them off.
Cancel your cable/satellite.
We did last January. There is no longer any real time tv in our home. We liked FNC but even it was becoming too much to bear to look at.
We are missing nothing without tv. We are better informed without it. The internet, books & magazines, and talk radio are what we rely upon.
The main reason for kicking the people on tv out of our home- We have a three.5 year old. She has an attention span of hours rather than seconds.
That never would have happened had we allowed the tv to teach her how to think in tiny pieces.
Turn it off. FNC wasn't worth it even a year ago. It's certainly not worth it now.
The fact is the reporter LIED. The veteran in question quickly challenged the article. John Kerry = LIAR.
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Yes. And they dispatch their lawyers like "men in black."
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