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Republican-funded Group Attacks Kerry's War Record
Annenberg Political Fact Check ^ | August 6, 2004

Posted on 08/07/2004 7:42:37 AM PDT by syriacus

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To: Puppage

Don't expect them to correct the facts. They have their lie and they will run with it. Right out of the Dem play book. With them it is not, "lie often enough and the lie takes on the ring of truth." It is lie once, the media will report it and then forever quote it.


41 posted on 08/07/2004 8:35:29 AM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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To: Mogollon
Only Hannity and Gibson showed any real stones over the ad

actually that girl taking over for Greta did pretty good last night.
42 posted on 08/07/2004 8:35:43 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Baynative

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


43 posted on 08/07/2004 8:37:28 AM PDT by trek
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To: syriacus

We all know about the use of half-truths, deceptive labels, out of context quotes by the "impartial, unbiased" media. They are so afraid to let the American people see all the actual facts and decide for themselves the truth. I have no doubts that John Kerry LIED then and is LYING now. My experiences lead me to this conclusion. John Kerry's actions confirm my conclusions. Look at his voting record in congress, that is when he decided it important for himself to be in attendance. Look at his actions when he was in country and came back to the states. At every step he has fought any program to protect and defend the American people. Look deeply at his record, go back further to his youth and work forward, looking closely at every thing that happened before he "volunteered" to join the navy. Do not discount any thing you see as minor, all activities he perpetuated may no longer be in full view. His money has allowed him to bury events in his past, but he has missed things. I challenge you all to dig and dig deeply. Do this to benefit all Americans, not just a few. Time is short. Godspeed to all.


44 posted on 08/07/2004 8:38:09 AM PDT by popparollo (Fair and Balanced)
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To: CaptRon
Hmmmmmmmmm. Didn't I see the Annenberg Center described as 'non-partisan'

Yes. And you are correct to put the word non-partisan in quotes. :-)

The Director of Annenberg Political Fact Check did "fact checking" for CNN in the past.

One of the two researchers for Factcheck worked on a Ted Kennedy campaign and likes to berate people who fail to use politically correct language.

45 posted on 08/07/2004 8:41:24 AM PDT by syriacus (Daschle on National Missile Defense debate -- "THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE." June 8, 2001)
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To: Mogollon
"Yep. It seems that FNC is drifting to the rats side just like C-span did years ago. If they keep it up, I don't see any point in paying extra satellite costs to get FNC."

Turn them off.

Cancel your cable/satellite.

We did last January. There is no longer any real time tv in our home. We liked FNC but even it was becoming too much to bear to look at.

We are missing nothing without tv. We are better informed without it. The internet, books & magazines, and talk radio are what we rely upon.

The main reason for kicking the people on tv out of our home- We have a three.5 year old. She has an attention span of hours rather than seconds.

That never would have happened had we allowed the tv to teach her how to think in tiny pieces.

Turn it off. FNC wasn't worth it even a year ago. It's certainly not worth it now.

AV

46 posted on 08/07/2004 8:43:05 AM PDT by Atomic Vomit (Have a look: http://www.volcanicfishermen.com)
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To: Puppage

The fact is the reporter LIED. The veteran in question quickly challenged the article. John Kerry = LIAR.


47 posted on 08/07/2004 8:43:06 AM PDT by popparollo (Fair and Balanced)
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To: syriacus
Annenberg has a reputable name, which is trashed by this particular "Political Fact Checking." The Boston Globe article was discredited before this analysis was done. Someone should inform the author that he hung himself and his institution out to dry, twisting in the wind.

Congressman Billybob

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48 posted on 08/07/2004 8:44:21 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: popparollo
They are so afraid to let the American people see all the actual facts and decide for themselves the truth.

Yes. And they dispatch their lawyers like "men in black."

49 posted on 08/07/2004 8:44:30 AM PDT by syriacus (Daschle on National Missile Defense debate -- "THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE." June 8, 2001)
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"I urge Ed to show to every American because I think every American should see this..." -- Fmr. NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani http://www.kerryoniraq.com/


50 posted on 08/07/2004 8:49:19 AM PDT by anglian
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To: Congressman Billybob
Annenberg has a reputable name.....Someone should inform the author that he hung himself and his institution out to dry, twisting in the wind.

Yes...It would be interesting to know who wrote the article....

Just Four people are listed on the About Us page

  1. Brooks Jackson Director -- who pioneered political "fact-checking" at CNN in 1992
  2. Kathleen Hall Jamieson, Director, Annenberg  Public Policy Center
  3. Jennifer Ernst, Researcher,,"She joined the Annenberg Public Policy Center in June, 2004 with previous experience in the office of US Sen. Chuck Hagel,"
  4. Seth Goldman Researcher, "who has worked at the Committee for a Democratic Majority and at Sen. Edward M. Kennedy's campaign committee."

51 posted on 08/07/2004 8:53:20 AM PDT by syriacus (Daschle on National Missile Defense debate -- "THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE." June 8, 2001)
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To: Atomic Vomit
The internet, books & magazines, and talk radio are what we rely upon.

We are heading that way here, too.

52 posted on 08/07/2004 8:59:32 AM PDT by syriacus (Daschle on National Missile Defense debate -- "THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE." June 8, 2001)
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To: syriacus

Let them know they are wrong. I guess they are suppose to be legit:

Mail:

FactCheck.org
Annenberg Public Policy Center
320 National Press Building
Washington DC 20045

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E-Mail:

Editor@FactCheck.org
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Telephone: (Annenberg Public Policy Center)

(202) 879-6700


53 posted on 08/07/2004 8:59:47 AM PDT by gilliam
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To: syriacus
" . . . we see no way to resolve which of these versions of reality is closer to the truth."

Translation: 'We don't dare have this resolved, so let's just all pack it in and move on.'

54 posted on 08/07/2004 9:03:31 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: OldPossum
It certainly looks like the swift boat guys have struck a nerve since the DemocRATs seem to be all over themselves trying to discredit them.

Yes. The Democrats seem to have taken action as soon as they saw the vets might get some real attention.

55 posted on 08/07/2004 9:04:39 AM PDT by syriacus (Daschle on National Missile Defense debate -- "THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE." June 8, 2001)
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To: syriacus
Another reason for doubt is that the group's financing is strongly partisan.

And I suppose all the shadowy "527s" financed by George Soros aren't partisan?

Get a clue Mac.

56 posted on 08/07/2004 9:07:50 AM PDT by upchuck (Words from sKerry or Actions from President Bush? You decide.)
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To: Eastbound
Translation: 'We don't dare have this resolved, so let's just all pack it in and move on.'

They didn't even bother to take a good look at Elliot's second affidavit, before the weekend.

57 posted on 08/07/2004 9:08:55 AM PDT by syriacus (Daschle on National Missile Defense debate -- "THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE." June 8, 2001)
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To: syriacus

I LOVE this bellyaching from THE LEFT!If George Soros funds Move On .Org to the tune if 15-20 MILLIONS to attack OUR PRESIDENT,that's perfectly OK!!Put the shoe on the other foot and they start CATERWAULING like scalded cats!!!


58 posted on 08/07/2004 9:11:42 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: syriacus
If I understand correctly (thanks to what I've learned on FR) Elliot was merely making clear, in his second statement, that Kerry's and Kranish's published story says Kerry shot the young man in the back.

Anti-Kerry Vietnam Veterans Hold Strong <-- Mash here, read all about it for yourself, and draw your own conclusions. Make sure you read the affadavits themselves. Also, read the Boston Globe stories. I don't have links to those, but there is no fee or registration required to read the August 6th article that provoked Elliott's second affidavit, or the Globe's CYA article of this morning.

59 posted on 08/07/2004 9:15:38 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: upchuck
Get a clue Mac

I agree.

I'll bet 99% of political donations are given by people with some partisan leanings.

It makes sense to think that individuals who are uninterested in politics probably contribute very little money to politically active groups.

Money is given
to
political groups
by
people interested in politics.

60 posted on 08/07/2004 9:17:35 AM PDT by syriacus (Daschle on National Missile Defense debate -- "THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE." June 8, 2001)
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