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Political analyst sees Kerry victory (U of Va's Larry Sabato tells why)
BIRMINGHAM NEWS ^ | August 08, 2004 | DAVID WHITE

Posted on 08/09/2004 8:25:06 AM PDT by Liz

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To: Liz

Gore and Liberman were much better candidates than Kerry Edwards; Bush trounced them as an unkown. How are the two weak candidates going to beat Bush? Gore followed steps, he stuck to his leftist guns, so did Liberman; Bush made Gore look like a fool during the debates. How is a flip flopping joke like Kerry going to do better than Bush?


21 posted on 08/09/2004 8:37:14 AM PDT by Porterville (Your sensitivity offends me you disgusting liberal.)
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To: presidentbowen
Why are so many analysts saying that this race is already over?

Because they wish it was because Kerry would win right now. Kerry will be found out and Bush will unleash everything on this guy that will make Kerry look like the biggest liberal in the world.

The analyst know this is not over and they want the Republican base to put up the white flag. Kerry will lose and he will lose "BIG TIME."

22 posted on 08/09/2004 8:37:23 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

He teaches @ UVA and while I don't agree w/ everything that he wrote, he makes a reasonable argument. Also, he's very evenhanded and doesn't mind taking some jabs at the Dems (see his comments about Kerry). He's not someone who can be dismissed as a left-wing partisan b/c he isn't one. Agree or disagree w/ him, but he does his homework and provides some good analysis.


23 posted on 08/09/2004 8:38:42 AM PDT by LI conservative
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To: Liz

Isn't Larry Sabato the guy who said the Republicans would lose the Senate in 2002 by a 52-48 margin?


24 posted on 08/09/2004 8:39:47 AM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Fabrizio Quattrocchi: "Adesso vi faccio vedere come muore un italiano")
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To: Liz
I'm waiting for someone, anyone, to ask Hillary her opinion of Keyes' entering the Ill senate race.

BTW..how was the weekend? Iw as away..just catching up?..I missed the Russert interview with Krugman and O'Reilly, hope they rurun it this week..

25 posted on 08/09/2004 8:40:08 AM PDT by ken5050 (We've looked for WMD in Iraq for LESS time than Hillary looked for the Rose Law firm billing records)
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To: Liz

Yeah right! Dream on. LOL


26 posted on 08/09/2004 8:41:03 AM PDT by OneTimeLurker
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To: Liz
Ann Coulter has it right...this is like a referendum on skirt lengths before the Paris shows.

Media attempt to show Skerry as a winner.

Middle American wont buy.

27 posted on 08/09/2004 8:41:28 AM PDT by TUX (Domino effect)
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To: Militiaman7

>Never believe Larry Sabato.

Sabato predicted a Gore win in 2000.


28 posted on 08/09/2004 8:41:46 AM PDT by Darnright
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To: Dolphy
Apparently reality doesn't count!!! Consumer confidence surges to highest level since January
29 posted on 08/09/2004 8:43:27 AM PDT by Toidylop
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To: Militiaman7; Mudboy Slim; iceskater; Coop

IIRC Sabato was saying the exact opposite about a month ago.


30 posted on 08/09/2004 8:43:36 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (www.wardsmythe.com)
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To: cripplecreek

If the election were held today Sabato would write jimmy carter would win.


31 posted on 08/09/2004 8:44:22 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: LI conservative

I agree with your comments. Reading between the lines, I think Sabato is saying that the Bush campaign must portray sKerry for what he is: A tax and spend liberal who wants bigger government, more social programs and less defense spending. Rove needs to go medeival on the guy.


32 posted on 08/09/2004 8:45:52 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Vietnam veteran against Jean-France Kerry.)
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To: fooman

I don't know what his track record is. Every time I hear him I get the impression he lives in the NY/Washington Press echo chamber. He make those general statements, "The American people feel/think.....", and they NEVER describe me.


33 posted on 08/09/2004 8:46:21 AM PDT by hobson
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To: Liz
Of course, if the election were held today Kerry would win... he'd be running unopposed, as the Republicans have yet to nominate a candidate.
34 posted on 08/09/2004 8:47:00 AM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Fabrizio Quattrocchi: "Adesso vi faccio vedere come muore un italiano")
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To: longtermmemmory
"If the election were held today".....

The DEMOCRATS would still LIE!!!!

35 posted on 08/09/2004 8:47:08 AM PDT by goodnesswins (VICTORY...........brings peace.)
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To: LI conservative

what you say is true - he's thoughtful, he seems analytical and all - but what the others are saying here is correct, he's wrong very often.

right now, on the stump, the best thing Bush has going for him - is Kerry. The soundbites of him that make the news are awful - this criticism of Bush reading to the classroom on 9-11, and this latest blurb about how he would fight a "more sensitive" war on terrorism - both played badly for him in my opinion.

still, its going to be a very close race.


36 posted on 08/09/2004 8:48:56 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: presidentbowen
Why are so many analysts saying that this race is already over?

Simple answer: The Left is programming The Sheep for the vote in November.

The Sheep need constant feeding, given their short-term memories Ask a Sheep about what they watch and listen to: they can quote chapter-and-verse about their fave stars, but can't remember September 11th.

37 posted on 08/09/2004 8:49:57 AM PDT by Old Sarge (JFKerry: It Takes An Idiot To Raze A Village!)
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I don't know what Sabato's track record is, though I must say that when I've heard him speak on television he does seem to be impartial, unlike Zogby and that guy for CNN who seems to take delight in Democratic chances for gains.

I mean the fact that Sabato admits that Kerry is out of the mainstream on social and cultural issues is a credit to him in my opinion. Many refuse to admit this obvious truth.

While I don't agree that w/o the Iraq war Bush would be leading in 45 states -- Calif, Vermont, Rhode Island, Conn, Mass, Illinois, Hawaii = at least 7 states -- I do think that Bush would be headed for a rather easy 6-8 point, 35-40 state landslide victory. I think people will be willing to hold back on blaming Bush (rightly so) for the slow-recovering economy because of things like 9-11, and that combined with Bush being closer to most people on social and cultural issues would have been enough to reelect him over the far left Kerry/Edwards ticket. But with growing discontent over Iraq; I don't know.

It would be a shame if Kerry is elected because of Iraq. It would be a shame if Kerry wins in spite of his far-left social views instead of because of them. And it will really be a shame if Kerry wins and disapproval of Bush results in the GOP losing the Senate races in Colorado, Louisiana, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Florida, and Alaska thus giving the Dems control of the Senate.

Bush and the GOP had better convince the people that Iraq was worth it, that it was necessary, and that is was a legitimate front to open in the war on terror.


38 posted on 08/09/2004 8:54:02 AM PDT by Aetius
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To: presidentbowen; Liz; IrishGOP; PISANO; truthandlife
presidentbowen wrote:

Why are so many analysts saying that this race is already over?

They are trying to "create facts on the ground," psychologically.  They want the mood to be so weighted to this "conventional wisdom" that it will happen, simply because everyone knew it was going to happen.  Kerry voters will turn out to be part of the happy herd and Bushies (I actually heard a reporter use this term in this context) will be so discouraged that they won't show up.

And on November 3rd Peter Jennings will complain that the American voters had a temper tantrum when it DOESN'T happen their way.

39 posted on 08/09/2004 8:55:53 AM PDT by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: Militiaman7

Sabato might be wrong and I hope he is but he has always come across as a pretty straight shooter.


40 posted on 08/09/2004 8:57:21 AM PDT by dwilli
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