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Political analyst sees Kerry victory (U of Va's Larry Sabato tells why)
BIRMINGHAM NEWS ^ | August 08, 2004 | DAVID WHITE

Posted on 08/09/2004 8:25:06 AM PDT by Liz

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To: goldstategop

I agree that it's a little early to make a call on the race, but this isn't "wishful thinking" by Sabato. He's not a liberal. Having seen him on TV and read alot of his stuff over the years, he's not a Dem mouthpiece.


41 posted on 08/09/2004 8:59:26 AM PDT by LI conservative
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To: Liz

Your team is up by 3 runs in the middle of the seventh. If the game ended now, you'd win. Makes sense.


42 posted on 08/09/2004 8:59:47 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
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To: Darnright
Sabato predicted a Gore win in 2000

Yes, but if the election hadn't been stolen, he would had won. Remember... Votes not counted, Supreme Court handing Bush the election, disenfranchisement, ALL that stuff!

Yuk, Yuk, Yuk!!

43 posted on 08/09/2004 9:01:59 AM PDT by RogerWilko
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To: Liz
Iraq is (IMHO) quickly changing from a negative for Bush to a positive. Abu Ghraib, the legacy of Clinton's affirmative action for incompetent female generals, has almost been forgotten. Allawi is running Iraq (as much as it can be run at this stage) much better than expected, at least what I expected.

As the python squeezes the life out of the insurgents, Iraq will look better and better to the American electorate, and I think a huge number of people who in April were fed up with Bush over Iraq are going to reconsider by November, particularly given how seedy JF'nKerry is starting to look...

44 posted on 08/09/2004 9:04:12 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Liz

Sabato always has some interesting perspectives. One of the pieces of analysis that gets overlooked is the electoral vote scenario has changed since 2000. The Bush states have added electoral votes due to census changes and the Gore states lost votes. Too many of the analyses have Bush losing if, for example, New Hampshire goes to the Dem column. That is incorrect analysis because Bush would pick up more than enough electoral votes in Texas to offset that.

Bush does have his work cut out for him. However he has the better part of three months to make his case to the American people. Irag is not all gloom and doom as the American press likes to characterize the situation.

The more people see Kerry and Bush side by side as leaders and on the issues the more Kerry will begin to fade in the polls. If Bush has built a lead going into the Republican Convention then Kerry will have an uphill battle.


45 posted on 08/09/2004 9:04:53 AM PDT by SageofRugby
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To: presidentbowen

Because they are rooting for Kerry. Call it a campaign contribution.


46 posted on 08/09/2004 9:08:01 AM PDT by rushmom
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To: So Cal Rocket

Yep


47 posted on 08/09/2004 9:10:00 AM PDT by rushmom
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To: Liz

He cannot tell his boat is sinking,
So buoyed is he with wishful thinking.


48 posted on 08/09/2004 9:10:57 AM PDT by Dionysius
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To: Liz
Sabato said Bush, despite early hopes, has little chance now of taking Minnesota, Michigan or Pennsylvania from the Democrats' side.

Minneapolis is Minnesota's most liberal town. The Uptown neighborhood is Minneapolis' most liberal neighborhood.

I went to a movie at the Uptown Theater (the area's foreign/arts film theater - still does midnight showings of cult films).

This was the weekend of the Uptown Art Fair, and the streets were packed.

I parked in the ramp of a neighborhood shopping area, and watched for bumper stickers. There were zero Kerry stickers in the ramp. One for Howard Dean. Six for Bush/Cheney.

The radical left on the street may be backing Kerry. But the folks who can afford to pay for parking aren't.

49 posted on 08/09/2004 9:12:08 AM PDT by jdege
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To: presidentbowen
Why are so many analysts saying that this race is already over?

Because their Little Red Book tells them that if they repeat a lie often enough it becomes "true".

Bush can't win, so all Republicans might as well stay home, like they did in the Panhandle when Brokaw(spit) and company called the state for gore.

50 posted on 08/09/2004 9:12:17 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (It's OVER. They have all left Boston. Back to Hell, Hollywood, and Moscow, where they belong.)
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To: Darnright

Sabato also supposedly called 2002 as a GOP year, but I'm looking for something concrete that did not cover both ways.


51 posted on 08/09/2004 9:12:28 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Liz
The only thing that Sabato got right is this:

"Sabato called Kerry a cross between a funeral director and Lurch, the stiff butler on the old TV comedy "The Addams Family."

52 posted on 08/09/2004 9:13:28 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: hobson

Bingo! Sabato has been in the beltway way too long and has no idea what people in the rest of the Country are thinking. His analysis has been flawed for sometime as he sounds just like the rest of the DC Beltway on the TV. They don't have clue about Middle America or they like to call us -- "flyover country!."


53 posted on 08/09/2004 9:14:04 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Win Another One for the Gipper!)
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To: Liz

This guys a bit daft.

TO win, Kerry has to hold every state that Bush lost in 2000 and add at least one more... and its just not panning out that way at the moment.

When Gay Marriage (on the ballot in at least 10 states if I am not mistaken this fall) comes into play, and the continued victory against terror continues Kerry has nothing but the old liberal bastions.. and that won't carry the day.

Sorry I see Bush my at least 4-5 points by Nov 2 at this point.


54 posted on 08/09/2004 9:15:33 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: Liz
Sabato called Kerry a cross between a funeral director and Lurch, the stiff butler on the old TV comedy "The Addams Family."

And that is why Bush will win.

55 posted on 08/09/2004 9:16:42 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: All

Elitist libs who run the DNC are all going to lose big!! THe DNC is a NAtional Party No More. The people of this country are not going to throw a war President who has kept this country safe since 9/11 out of office. THere is one thing that will probably happen because they can't quit after four years of blasting away at President Bush. They will try to impeach him over the prison abuses in Iraq. The N ew York Times will run the show and is holding this back for now because they know Bush will win.


56 posted on 08/09/2004 9:18:47 AM PDT by cousair (k)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Thanks for the ping.

IIRC Sabato was saying the exact opposite about a month ago.

Don't tell me Sabato is becoming a flip-flopper like Kerry.

57 posted on 08/09/2004 9:20:03 AM PDT by iceskater (No nation or state ever taxed itself into prosperity.)
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To: presidentbowen
Why are so many analysts saying that this race is already over?

Because a lot of "undecideds" vote for whoever is perceived to be the eventual winner. Convince them that your man has it in the bag, and the game is almost over,.

58 posted on 08/09/2004 9:20:44 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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bump


59 posted on 08/09/2004 9:20:56 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: IrishGOP

Obviously the dead heat national race and the lack of a Kerry bounce after his convention have convinced the brilliant Sabato that Bush is going to lose ...


60 posted on 08/09/2004 9:24:09 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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