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Tunguska, Siberia - Russian scientists claim discovery of alien spaceship
AFP via Babelfish translation ^ | August 11, 2004

Posted on 08/11/2004 8:31:43 PM PDT by HAL9000

Discovered remains of an extraterrestrial vessel in Siberia (scientists)

Russian scientists affirmed to have discovered the remains of an extraterrestrial spaceship fallen in 1908 on the site from Toungouska, in Siberia, brings back Wednesday evening the Russian agency Interfax.

The scientists, who belong to the Fund of the space phenomenon of Toungouska, also on the spot found a stone of 50 kg which they sent for analysis to Krasnoyarsk, town of Siberia.

The cataclysm of Toungouska, which has occurred in a desert area of Siberia, constitutes one of the greatest scientific mysteries of the 20th century.

June 30, 1908, which could have been a meteorite exploded with a few kilometers of the Toungouska river, causing a shock wave perceived to hundreds of kilometers to the round and devastating 2.000 km2 of Siberian forest.

But the exact nature of the body which exploded and its origin remain a mystery.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 1908; alien; aliens; discovery; fruitbats; hahahotel; nutjobs; russia; siberia; spacecraft; spaceship; tunguska; ufo
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I just translate and post 'em, folks.

Undoubtably, someone will be along shortly to explain the antimatter theory for the 1908 explosion in Siberia.

1 posted on 08/11/2004 8:31:44 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

That would be me, and here goes:

It doesn't matter, it happened in 1908.


2 posted on 08/11/2004 8:33:36 PM PDT by baltodog ((Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.))
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To: HAL9000
Interfax.ru

Wreckage of alien device reportedly discovered at Tunguska Meteor site

TURA, Russia. Aug 11 (Interfax-Siberia) - Experts of the Tunguska Space Phenomenon public state fund in Siberia announced that they have discovered wreckage of an alien technical device in the place where the Tunguska meteor fell almost 100 years ago.

A giant piece of space rock, later named the Tunguska meteor, is believed to have collided with the Earth 65 kilometers from the village of Vanavara (Evenkia) on June 30, 1908. The first expedition to examine the area was organized in 1927 by Professor Leonid Kulik. However, no wreckage of an alien device was discovered.

The Evenk autonomous district administration's press service reported that the most recent expedition had been working in the western sector of the district. The route for the expedition was charted based on pictures taken from space near the village of Poligus in the Baikitsky district.

Researchers argue that they have discovered parts of an alien device which they believe crashed on June 30, 1908. They also found a rock weighing about 50 kilograms and sent it to Krasnoyarsk for analysis.

Expedition chief Yuri Lavbin said the results of the expedition inspire the hope that the mystery of the space phenomenon will be solved by the 100th anniversary of the Tunguska meteorite disaster.


3 posted on 08/11/2004 8:33:40 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

I see you and raise you.
http://www.ufocom.org/UfocomS/toungouska.htm


4 posted on 08/11/2004 8:34:05 PM PDT by bitt
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To: HAL9000

5 posted on 08/11/2004 8:34:43 PM PDT by happydogdesign
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To: HAL9000
Corrected Interfax link - http://www.interfax.ru/e/B/0/28.html?id_issue=10692623
6 posted on 08/11/2004 8:35:03 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
I hear they brought back a living alien too;


7 posted on 08/11/2004 8:35:55 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (When Saddam Hussein ruled Iraq, his son murdered 2,000 people in the Abu Gharib prison in *one* day.)
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To: HAL9000
But the exact nature of the body which exploded and its origin remain a mystery. ........

This was from an early 'area 51' site.

Paleo-Germans from the South Pole....

They had the original Nazi 'Grail'....

/sarcasm

8 posted on 08/11/2004 8:35:59 PM PDT by maestro
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To: HAL9000

Whether they found true remains of an alien ship or not, I'd have to think it was not directly involved in that particular catastrophe, as there wouldn't be much left to find. We may not know what happend there, but it was comparable to a nuke event.


9 posted on 08/11/2004 8:37:30 PM PDT by umgud (speaking strictly as an infidel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: HAL9000
Yeah, yeah, yeah, found an alien spaceship ... or an alien device ... big deal. BUT, they also found this rock. It's about 50 kg. They sent that sucker in for analysis toute suite! That could really be interesting!!
10 posted on 08/11/2004 8:37:55 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column)
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To: HAL9000

This is either true, and somewhat disconcerting....

Or, it could be the work of some Russian guy trying to make a buck off some suckers...

Geez, I hate having to try to figure these things out!!!


11 posted on 08/11/2004 8:38:43 PM PDT by baltodog ((Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.))
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To: HAL9000

Moriarty was the issue. This was an elaborate plot to kill Sherlock Holmes. Everyone knows that.


12 posted on 08/11/2004 8:39:21 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: baltodog

Isn't this also the place that some people attribute to Nikola Tesla's device? The one he tested and it exploded in Siberia?


13 posted on 08/11/2004 8:40:53 PM PDT by job ("God is not dead nor doth He sleep")
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To: HAL9000

'At 7.00am on 30th June 1908 near the lower Tunguska River, Siberia, a large explosion occurred. The explosion was so massive that it caused damage 400 miles away, and was heard even further. Even the heat that came out from the explosion was felt hundreds of miles away.

For several nights all over northern Europe, the sky glowed enough to light the street of London. At first it was assumed that a massive meteorite had collided with the earth.

Given the remoteness of the area it was not until 1927 that an expedition was mounted to investigate the crash area. The expedition could not locate any bits of meteorite which puzzled them due the size that the meteorite would have to have been to create such a large explosion.

Another puzzle for the expedition was the way the tress were felled in an outward motion and that in the centre an area of trees were still standing, although all their bark and branches have been destroyed.

After the Second World War and the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, photos of the cities were compared with aerial photos of the Tunguska blast, and they were stunning similar.

As a result of this various scientists speculated that a nuclear explosion had taken place over the area, hence explaining the tree formation, and because no nation possessed nuclear device the logical conclusion was that it was from an exploding alien nuclear powered craft.

Other theories started to be banded around ranging from pinpoint black holes, and antimatter particles.

Many of the witnesses to the original crash spoke of seeing and oval-shaped mass moving across the sky, as well as seeing the object change course, and of having a very low speed.

Most people today believe that what hit Tunguska was simply a meteorite, but the alien craft theory still has a lot of credibility. As with most of these cases that occurred long ago, we shall probably never know for sure.'


14 posted on 08/11/2004 8:41:10 PM PDT by bitt
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To: HAL9000
Toungouska was Bush's fault. When is he going to apologize?
15 posted on 08/11/2004 8:42:45 PM PDT by ILS21R
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To: HAL9000

Forget antimatter, it was a comet.


16 posted on 08/11/2004 8:43:04 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: ILS21R

Bush's granddaddy's fault.


17 posted on 08/11/2004 8:46:02 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: happydogdesign

How do you do it?

So quick on the draw!(Pun intended)


18 posted on 08/11/2004 8:47:57 PM PDT by notforhire (It riles them to believe that we perceive the web they weave.)
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To: HAL9000

Saw in the "paper" (Weekly World News) last week that there is an Eskimo tribe on Mars. Now how do you suppose they got so lost? An ancient link to "F-Troop's" heckowi tribe?


19 posted on 08/11/2004 8:49:02 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Democrats aren't playing with a full deck, they only use the race cards.)
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To: HAL9000

All your Russian Scientist are belong to us.


20 posted on 08/11/2004 8:49:38 PM PDT by notforhire (It riles them to believe that we perceive the web they weave.)
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To: RightthinkinAmerican

ET phone home


21 posted on 08/11/2004 8:49:57 PM PDT by kcinnh (sightings)
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To: HAL9000

"extraterrestrial spaceship "


I, for one, welcome our new Redundant Overlords...


22 posted on 08/11/2004 8:50:07 PM PDT by Blzbba (John Kerry - Dawn of a New Error.)
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To: HAL9000
Somebody call Art Bell!

Wait a minute, Art Bell was onto this story years ago. Nevermind.

23 posted on 08/11/2004 8:50:58 PM PDT by AF68
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To: Blzbba

aliens, Russia, Star Wars, Evil Empire, this is all starting to make sense!!


24 posted on 08/11/2004 8:51:03 PM PDT by kcinnh (sightings)
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To: ILS21R

"Toungouska was Bush's fault. "


No, it was one of Saddam's WMDs...


25 posted on 08/11/2004 8:51:24 PM PDT by Blzbba (John Kerry - Dawn of a New Error.)
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To: HAL9000

Hell I don't care, it is gonna be one heck of a tourist trap now that the cat is outta the bag, "I got dibs on the Beer and Vodka Concessions"

Investors please note the following:
Each Investor that sends me $1,000,000.00 will get a 25% share.
Those that send me $100,000 will receive a 2.1% share.
But wait there is more! Every investor will get unlimited access to both the Beer Booth and the Vodka Den!


26 posted on 08/11/2004 8:51:36 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (I made my Fortune selling Sugar Coated Cat Turds on a Stick at the DNC Convention)
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To: HAL9000

I'm sure these Russian investigators will get
some naive people to send them money. Isn't
that what all of this space alien non-sense
is about anyway -- money?


27 posted on 08/11/2004 8:56:11 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: HAL9000
Tunguska, Siberia - Russian scientists claim discovery of alien spaceship .........if we are 'back' in the 'UFO' mode of 'operations......

The 'Cold' War is back....'On'.....

':-(

China ops?

28 posted on 08/11/2004 8:57:12 PM PDT by maestro
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To: StormEye
Isn't that what all of this space alien non-sense is about anyway -- money?

Probably so.

29 posted on 08/11/2004 8:57:21 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: RightthinkinAmerican
Saw in the "paper" (Weekly World News) last week that there is an Eskimo tribe on Mars.

Some pictures of the Moon show what some folks claim looks like a trailer park. That technical device they found in Siberia is probably someone's missing tv remote control. Dang things always turn up in the most unlikely places.

30 posted on 08/11/2004 9:05:20 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: bitt; All
but the alien craft theory still has a lot of credibility.

Nope, it was not an alien craft, antimatter, black hole, nuclear explosion or any other exotic event. (Occam's razor)

Recently we have improved the tools that model meteorite impacts in the atmosphere. When a meteor hits the atmosphere it can be traveling more than 15 kilometers per second. The shock of the atmosphere itself can cause some stony meteors, depending on a specific diameter and velocity, to explode prior to impact (this particular one is thought to have been somewhere around 30 to 50 meters in diameter and traveling approximately 15 Km/sec). Evidence that backs this up is that bits of rock have been found imbedded in the trees that match the composition of the usual stony meteorite.

31 posted on 08/11/2004 9:05:31 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: HAL9000

Okay whats the score here... We have lost what...??? maybe 3 space ships.... and the aliens have lost at least 3 to 4 times that amount.... What the hell do we want that two bit technology for anyway?

Let's look at this through the classic american eyes...

What kind of mileage you get with that thing...? And did they throw in the undercoating for free?

Damn it we want the truth!


32 posted on 08/11/2004 9:05:51 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: HAL9000

The origin of the alien spaceship is inconsequential. I'm simply gratified to know that skerry's Mother Ship has finally been identified....


33 posted on 08/11/2004 9:17:29 PM PDT by Rightfootforward
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To: bitt
Most people today believe that what hit Tunguska was simply a meteorite, but the alien craft theory still has a lot of credibility

Oh, come on. Everyone knows the Ganglkplyztz race-- the only race with exploration rights in this part of the galaxy-- uses only non-explosive dilithium crystals. How would one of their scout vessels cause an explosion of *that* size?

Ugh... I hate when people just don't think these things through!

34 posted on 08/11/2004 9:24:50 PM PDT by Timm
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To: HAL9000
FRom a thread posted last night re: same item as mentioned here.. the "deer stone"

They also found a rock weighing about 50 kilograms and sent it to Krasnoyarsk for analysis.

TUNGUSKA METEORITE PROBLEM IN THE LIGHT OF THE SO CALLED MARTIAN METEORITES

excerpt

deer stone aka (enigma-/John's) stone

The discovery of a mysterious boulder (enigma-stone, deer-stone, John’s stone) in the epicentre of the Tunguska catastrophe in 1972 imparts a particular acuteness to the development of this trend and gives an unexpected turn to the study of the Tunguska meteorite. The boulder is a quarz-disseminated conglomerate-gravelite sand-stone belonging to highly strong sedimentationrock consisting by 98.5% of SiO2. There are evident signs of its high speed deceleration in the local permafrost sedimentations after the intrusion of the boulder into the soil from above at the calculated velocity of not less than 500 m/sec. The direction of the intrusion coincides with the probable azimuths of the trajectory projection of the Tunguska cosmic body.

35 posted on 08/11/2004 9:35:48 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Proud member of the FR Special Ops manuremovers crew .. moving manure&opinion since '96)
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To: Timm

Anti-matter containment system failure. Duh! And you want other people to think things through.


36 posted on 08/11/2004 9:38:33 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Democrats aren't playing with a full deck, they only use the race cards.)
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To: ILS21R

Women and minorities were hardest hit.


37 posted on 08/11/2004 9:39:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A republic, if we can revive it")
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To: BenLurkin

Along with working families, no doubt.

LOL


38 posted on 08/11/2004 9:43:33 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: BenLurkin

Exactly.


39 posted on 08/11/2004 9:44:01 PM PDT by ILS21R
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To: HAL9000

I remember reading a book about this in the '70s. The object changed course to avoid a populated area. When it exploded, it left a radioactive footprint. The Russian scientists treated it as a anamoly. It is one of this planet's great mysteries.
Larry









40 posted on 08/11/2004 10:10:02 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (www.cantheban.net --Can the "assault" weapons ban!)
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To: PistolPaknMama
It is one of this planet's great mysteries.

Take a look at post #31

41 posted on 08/11/2004 10:24:07 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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"The explosion was so massive that it caused damage 400 miles away, and was heard even further."

The Bush administration is behind this event. Newly released data by the Freedom of Information Act shows that Government scientists have built a time machine.

Bush used it to hit the Russians with secret WMD in 1908 and effect their time line in our favor and to destroy the environment by killing a whole bunch of trees. Bush hates trees.


42 posted on 08/11/2004 10:27:04 PM PDT by garjog
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To: RadioAstronomer

Do you get joy out of stifling people's imagination?


43 posted on 08/11/2004 11:20:27 PM PDT by jeffo
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To: garjog
Bush used it to hit the Russians with secret WMD in 1908 and effect their time line in our favor and to destroy the environment by killing a whole bunch of trees. Bush hates trees.

As well he should. Everyone knows trees give off pollution!

44 posted on 08/11/2004 11:33:09 PM PDT by mhx
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To: Trillian

PING


45 posted on 08/11/2004 11:33:18 PM PDT by Conservative4Life (Vote Conservative, or don't bother voting at all....)
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To: jeffo; Physicist; edwin hubble; ThinkPlease; Doctor Stochastic; Right Wing Professor; ...
Do you get joy out of stifling people's imagination?

True story. When I was "flying" the Magellan spacecraft to Venus, I had a librarian in a public library get upset with me after she found out what I was doing for a living. She said, "All of you scientists have wrecked my enjoyment of reading SiFi involving the planet Venus". She so wanted it to be a watery swamp with astounding creatures; she truly wished we had never explored that world in reality.

You may want to live in a fantasy world, however; IMHO, there is enough exciting real stuff out there to spark anyone's imagination and wonder.

46 posted on 08/12/2004 1:12:00 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: HAL9000

If the Russians found alien artifacts, they'd be on ebay ....


47 posted on 08/12/2004 1:20:11 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: RadioAstronomer
I had a librarian in a public library get upset with me after she found out what I was doing for a living.

I certainly hope you slapped her around, and then had your way with her, ideally right on top of her card catalog cabinet. The only librarian who was ever any good is Laura Bush.

48 posted on 08/12/2004 3:53:10 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist!)
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To: PatrickHenry

We should know if the spaceship (Or what's left of it) is still active when Michael Jackson, Al Gore, Howard Dean, and Richard Simmons all feel a strange yearning to go to Siberia.

Dumb aliens, why didn't they just eject the warp core like they were supposed to?


49 posted on 08/12/2004 4:07:27 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (I'll put George W. Bush's four years in office over Kerry's four months in Vietnam any time!)
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To: HAL9000

Were there aliens? How long before the rats organize them into an oppressed minority constituency? How long before they blame Bush for disenfranchising them for all these years?


50 posted on 08/12/2004 4:32:37 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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