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Rift grows as Iranians caught fighting for Sadr(Two trucks of weapons captured at the border)
guardian ^ | Aug 13 2004 | Michael Howard

Posted on 08/12/2004 6:10:31 PM PDT by Dog

Rift grows as Iranians caught fighting for Sadr

Michael Howard in Baghdad Friday August 13, 2004 The Guardian

Security officials in Baghdad were last night urgently investigating the background of 30 Iranians who were caught fighting for a rebel Shia cleric in Iraq, amid mounting concern over the involvement of the Tehran regime in the uprising. The Guardian has learned that the most senior members of the Iraqi government were briefed about the capture of the men yesterday, and also told of other evidence that fighters and equipment have been crossing the border from Iran.

The 30 men were captured in the southern city of Kut on Wednesday and officials are trying to establish whether they have any links to Tehran.

"We are checking their identities but if they are found to have links to the Iranians then that would be tantamount to a declaration of war by them," said a senior Iraqi source, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The source said members of Iraq's national security committee had yesterday been presented "with revealing information about the extent of Iranian involvement in Iraqi affairs", which was being taken seriously at the "highest echelons of government".

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: insurgents; iran; iraq; martyrsiniraq; southwestasia
Iran is going full bore.. and needs to get whacked.
1 posted on 08/12/2004 6:10:35 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog

so true, so true


2 posted on 08/12/2004 6:11:46 PM PDT by kcinnh
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To: Dog

The Guardian published this?


3 posted on 08/12/2004 6:15:33 PM PDT by Bogey78O (Kerry lied and if elected people will die.)
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To: Dog
Iran also denounced the assault by US marines and Iraqi forces in the holy Iraqi city of Najaf as "inhumane and horrible".

That can only mean it is working.

4 posted on 08/12/2004 6:16:59 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: Bogey78O

Yep....


5 posted on 08/12/2004 6:17:55 PM PDT by Dog ( Attention: Everyone check their briefcase for their "magic" secret agent hat... That is all.)
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To: Dog

This will be interesting to watch. Iran it seems, is comitting suicide.


6 posted on 08/12/2004 6:23:20 PM PDT by bad company ((<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism))
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To: Dog

Yeah, BUSHwhacked! The sooner the better. Can't wait to see the French wet themselves again.


7 posted on 08/12/2004 6:23:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Dog
Maybe the domino theory was some credibility after all.

;-)

8 posted on 08/12/2004 6:28:49 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't confuse disagreement with argumentation.)
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To: Dog
Security officials in Baghdad were last night urgently investigating the background of 30 Iranians who were caught fighting for a rebel Shia cleric in Iraq....

I am shocked, truly shocked.

10 posted on 08/12/2004 6:33:24 PM PDT by Log
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To: bad company
This will be interesting to watch. Iran it seems, is comitting suicide.

It is suicide for the Mullahs in Iran if the Iraqis achive a democratic state. It is a matter of survival for them to beat us in Iraq.

11 posted on 08/12/2004 6:37:45 PM PDT by kabar
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To: uwar2

Agreed. Iraq will stabalize as soon as it's major players have to return home to confront freedom there. Spread those little f---ers out and thin the herd.


12 posted on 08/12/2004 6:40:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: kabar

"It is suicide for the Mullahs in Iran if the Iraqis achive a democratic state. It is a matter of survival for them to beat us in Iraq."

Very true. They do seem to be jumping out of the fat into the frying pan though.


13 posted on 08/12/2004 6:42:46 PM PDT by bad company ((<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism))
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To: Dog

The war with Iran is coming and it's coming soon.


14 posted on 08/12/2004 6:44:57 PM PDT by KamperKen
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To: Dog
tantamount to a declaration of war by them

Casus belli. But what to do.

15 posted on 08/12/2004 6:46:13 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: F14 Pilot; kabar

Maybe the internal pressures are greater than we thought.


16 posted on 08/12/2004 6:47:03 PM PDT by bad company ((<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism))
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To: Dog

Bye-bye Iran...
Bump for great justice


17 posted on 08/12/2004 6:50:09 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Watch out for AP trolls :o)
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To: Dog
Oh great ! Now the liberals will be having candlelight vigils not only for Sadr but the Mullahs too ! We need to rain on their parade to put the candles out by raining a few choice bombs down on Iran.
18 posted on 08/12/2004 6:51:31 PM PDT by JediForce (Never underestimate the power of the Dark side of the Force....keep the blasters' fully charged.)
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To: uwar2

re: "western capitalism threatens their strangle hold on the Iranian populace"

It occurs to me that it's one thing to preach against western excesses and capitalism when it's really not available to the population, but quite another when it's there and it's up to them to resist the temptation to have a drink or buy a girlie magazine. Iran's mullah's are smart enough to realize that once Iraq is 'liberated' it's only a matter of time before all manner of things they consider evil are commonly available to any who would partake. It's going to be much harder to convince the populace to resist temptation when it's more than a theory, but actually knocking at their doors.


19 posted on 08/12/2004 6:56:36 PM PDT by jwpjr
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To: Dog

They need to turn the Iranian "fighters" out on the street to face the Iraqi's that they have been killing of late. Film it and let the Iranians see what will happen to fighters that come to Iraq. Reinforcements will slow to a trickle then stop.


20 posted on 08/12/2004 7:16:16 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
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To: Dog
This article has been posted to DoctorZin’s New News Blog!


21 posted on 08/12/2004 7:30:07 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: Dog

Anybody care to guess the Guardian's reaction if 30 armed Americans and 2 trucks loaded with weapons showed up inside Iran?


22 posted on 08/12/2004 7:52:55 PM PDT by Angelus Errare
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To: Dog

No effin shiite Dog. I hope the offensive to rid the fundamentalism Iranian al-Mahdi whackos inside Iraq is finished off decisively once and for all, followed by, at the Iraqi government's request, a quick and powerful overthrow of the Mullahranians...


23 posted on 08/12/2004 7:56:43 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: Dog

The whole insurrgency is being funded by Iran and Iranians are sneaking in over the border to bring the cash/gold to fund it. Might be time to take out that nuke reactor and see what cards the Iranians are really holding.


24 posted on 08/12/2004 8:13:42 PM PDT by John Lenin (Love: a temporary insanity, curable by marriage)
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To: John Lenin

Looks like Iran is betting on kerry becoming POTUS. Parley


25 posted on 08/12/2004 8:18:01 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Dog

I wouldn't be surprised if Iran wasn't using this opportunity to empty it's prisons (a la Fidel) and sending people over the border.


26 posted on 08/12/2004 8:19:29 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge

And 30 are still alive?


27 posted on 08/12/2004 8:41:34 PM PDT by jocko12
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To: jocko12

30 got caught.


28 posted on 08/12/2004 8:43:39 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: bad company
It is a matter of survival for them to beat us in Iraq.

Have to agree with you there.

I think we are in Iraq to defeat Iran and prevent radical Islam from having access to nuclear weapons. The WMDs that we are worried about are in Iran and being developed by Iran, not Iraq. We have them surrounded and they are feeling the pressure. If Bush wins they are dead meat and they know it.

29 posted on 08/12/2004 8:49:27 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Dog

"Links to teheran"? If they're Iranians, let the Iraquis line them up and shoot them, and send Iran a bill for the ammo.


30 posted on 08/12/2004 8:54:47 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Dog

The Iranians and Syrians didn't learn the lesson from Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya that they should have. As they have decided to fight on, prolonging the war in Iraq delays the attack on Iran until they get the BOMB. At which time, they will be safe from attack.


31 posted on 08/12/2004 9:17:36 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: Dog; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave
That essentially is what Gen McInery said to Britt Hume yesterday.... Iran and Syria plan to divide Iraq , Syria would take the northern Oil fields and Iran the Southern, the Kurds could have their own area...
32 posted on 08/12/2004 11:26:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Dog
Check this out:

Many Groups of Sadr Militia surrendered to the Iraqi Police and Coalition forces after they gave up their arms. Among them are children less than 12 years old given RPG 7 and Kalashnikovs? Bullshit instead of a book and a computer or a game.

We will get pictures of their surrender later.

There is an imminent attack with tear gas to those hide themselves inside Imam Ali shrine and among them MS who escaped earlier.

Iran frustrated by the news of thousands of the militia it trained started to surrender and among them many Iranians, and Arabs. This makes an Iranian top leader to announce that the US will soon face a similar defeat like Vietnam War! A clear sign indicating the involvement of Iran in what is going on in Najaf and the Iraq.

hammorabi

33 posted on 08/12/2004 11:33:17 PM PDT by Sunsong (John Kerry, who rose without a trace, with no accomplishments but his own advancement)
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To: Dog

Good news!

However, since we are fighting a sensitive war, one can hope that no women's underwear will be put on the heads of the poor prisoners.


34 posted on 08/12/2004 11:34:39 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm a donor to the Swift Boat Vets fund. Have you donated? If not please do it now!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If the Iranians start to really go for broke, that would mean that their polls in the USA show a big win for GW.


35 posted on 08/12/2004 11:39:54 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm a donor to the Swift Boat Vets fund. Have you donated? If not please do it now!)
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To: Sunsong

"Many Groups of Sadr Militia surrendered to the Iraqi Police and Coalition forces after they gave up their arms. Among them are children less than 12 years old given RPG 7 and Kalashnikovs?'

Sounds just like the die hard Nazis in the last days of WWII in Germany. They had their youths out fighting in sure death situations.

The adults who did this horrible thing should be shot and feed to hogs and dogs.


36 posted on 08/12/2004 11:42:18 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm a donor to the Swift Boat Vets fund. Have you donated? If not please do it now!)
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To: Dog

As the Thing most aptly puts it: "Its clobberin' time."


37 posted on 08/12/2004 11:45:55 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: bad company

BUMP!


38 posted on 08/13/2004 6:08:05 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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