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Explorers Find Ancient City in Remote Peru Jungle
Reuters ^ | 8/17/04 | Marco Aquino

Posted on 08/18/2004 7:43:43 PM PDT by burrian

LIMA, Peru (Reuters) - An ancient walled city complex inhabited some 1,300 years ago by a culture later conquered by the Incas has been discovered deep in Peru's Amazon jungle, explorers said on Tuesday.

U.S. and Peruvian explorers uncovered the city, which may have been home to up to 10,000 people, after a month trekking in Peru's northern rain forest and following up on years of investigation about a possible lost metropolis in the region.

The stone city, made up of five citadels at 9,186 feet above sea level, stretches over around 39 square miles and contains walls covered in carvings and figure paintings, exploration leader Sean Savoy told Reuters.

"It is a tremendous city ... containing areas with stone etchings and 10-meter (33-foot) high walls," said Savoy, who had to hack through trees and thick foliage to finally reach the site on Aug. 15.

Covered in matted tree branches and interspersed with lakes and waterfalls, the settlement sites also contain well-preserved graveyards with mummies with teeth "in almost perfect condition," Savoy said.

Replete with stone agricultural terraces and water canals, the city complex is thought to have been home to the little-known Chachapoyas culture.

According to early accounts by Spanish conquistadors who arrived in Peru in the early 1500s, the Chachapoyas were a fair-skinned warrior tribe famous for their tall stature. Today they are known for the giant burial coffins sculpted into human figures found in the northern jungle region.

Savoy said his team also found an Inca settlement within the city complex that could prove theories the Chachapoyas were conquered by the Incas, who ruled an area stretching from Ecuador to northern Chile between 1300 and 1500.

Savoy, a Peruvian-American, accompanied on the expedition by his U.S. father, Gene Savoy, named the site Gran Saposoa after the nearby village Saposoa and his team has already mapped the area with preliminary drawings.

The discovery is the third notable ruin Gene Savoy has helped uncover in Peru. In 1964, Savoy found the site of the Incas' last refuge in the Cuzco region of southern Peru. A year later he took part in the discovery of the sacred city of Gran Pajaten in northern Peru.

American Hiram Bingham made Peru's most famous archeological discovery -- the fabled Inca ruins of Machu Picchu near Cuzco -- in 1911. Machu Picchu today attracts almost half a million tourists every year and is South America's best known archeological site.

© Reuters 2004. All Rights Reserved.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ancient; archaeology; clovis; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; peru; preclovis; precolumbian

1 posted on 08/18/2004 7:43:44 PM PDT by burrian
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To: SunkenCiv; blam
According to early accounts by Spanish conquistadors who arrived in Peru in the early 1500s, the Chachapoyas were a fair-skinned warrior tribe famous for their tall stature.

GGG ping

2 posted on 08/18/2004 7:45:55 PM PDT by burrian
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To: burrian
An ancient walled city complex inhabited some 1,300 years ago by a culture later conquered by the Incas...

No, no, no -- that isn't right. Native Americans never fought or "conquered" each other. They frolicked in peace and harmony with their neighbors and the environment -- until the dastardly white man showed up. I learned that in school.

3 posted on 08/18/2004 7:48:25 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: burrian; blam

Blam, I think this is the same discovery I mentioned to you a couple days ago, but new info.


4 posted on 08/18/2004 7:51:35 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: 68skylark
frolicked

**snicker**

5 posted on 08/18/2004 7:51:36 PM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: burrian
According to early accounts by Spanish conquistadors who arrived in Peru in the early 1500s, the Chachapoyas were a fair-skinned warrior tribe famous for their tall stature.

Anyone remember Kontiki and Thor Heyerdahl's theory about white skinned people in the Americas?

6 posted on 08/18/2004 7:56:38 PM PDT by Odyssey-x
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To: burrian

what? no pictures??


7 posted on 08/18/2004 7:57:51 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: TaxPayer2000

8 posted on 08/18/2004 8:04:26 PM PDT by burrian
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To: burrian

In 1971, my husband and I flew across the Peruvian jungle from Lima to Iquitos. We flew in a military plane because my husband's brother in law was in the Peruvian air force. We sat most of the time in the cockpit watching the full moon over the miles and miles of darkness.. once, we saw some firelight below. It went on for hours. We finally landed in Iquitos, the colonial rubber baron city, the Peruvian port on the Atlantic. The only way in was the river or the air... no roads. There's a lot of jungle down there and this is just in Peru.


9 posted on 08/18/2004 8:05:40 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: Mercat

was it a lost city? with full on population?


10 posted on 08/18/2004 8:12:11 PM PDT by SQUIDMACK
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To: burrian
" the Chachapoyas were a fair-skinned warrior tribe famous for their tall stature. "

The most interesting part of the story.

Anyone care to speculate who they were? My bet is they were related to the Kennewick Man Folks (The Ainu/Polynesians)

11 posted on 08/18/2004 8:15:21 PM PDT by blam
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To: TaxPayer2000

A student looks at the wall made of stones, part of an ancient walled city complex inhabited some 1,300 years ago by a culture later conquered by the Incas, which has been discovered deep in Peru's Amazon jungle, Chachapoyas. U.S. and Peruvian explorers uncovered the city, which may have been home to up to 10,000 people, after a month of trekking in Peru's northern rain forest and following up on years of investigation about a possible lost metropolis in the region. Photo by Andean Explorers Foundation/Reuters

Archeology students clean a wall made of stones, in this image made in August 2004, part of an ancient walled city complex inhabited some 1,300 years ago by a culture later conquered by the Incas, which has been discovered deep in Peru's Amazon jungle, Chachapoyas.

12 posted on 08/18/2004 8:19:32 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: blam

A Lost Tribe of Israel? ;)


13 posted on 08/18/2004 8:21:45 PM PDT by madison10
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To: burrian

B4L8r


14 posted on 08/18/2004 8:33:20 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: blam
Check out these sarcophagi I found from doing a google on "Chachapoyas."

You may be on to something with the Polynesian.

15 posted on 08/18/2004 8:36:54 PM PDT by burrian
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To: FairOpinion

Thank you Very Much!


16 posted on 08/18/2004 8:39:51 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: Clemenza; rmlew; PARodrig

ping


17 posted on 08/18/2004 8:54:16 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
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To: burrian
Good pictures, thanks.

"You may be on to something with the Polynesian."

Refugees from Sundaland.

...or

Related to these folks in Florida who have DNA of western Europeans.

Bye, Bye Beringia (8,000 Year Old Site In Florida)

18 posted on 08/18/2004 9:10:28 PM PDT by blam
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To: burrian
Shades of Easter Island...


19 posted on 08/18/2004 9:15:38 PM PDT by TXnMA
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To: madison10
"A Lost Tribe of Israel? ;)"

The date 700 AD would coincide with a people fleeing a fledgling islamic empire.
20 posted on 08/18/2004 9:21:19 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Mercat

And furthermore most people think of "jungle" in terms of what they see on TV. But jungle in these areas is bramble ... sharp, very dense shrubbery. It's easy to see how you could walk right up to an ancient temple ... and miss it.


21 posted on 08/18/2004 9:26:19 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: TXnMA

Those certainly give a first impression of Polynesian or even Soutwest Chinese styles. Quite a find!!!!!


22 posted on 08/18/2004 9:31:04 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "More Bush, Less Taxes.")
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To: burrian; blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; A.J.Armitage; abner; ...
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23 posted on 08/18/2004 9:49:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: civil discourse

Early Schezuan cultures made bronze that have a distinctly different style, perhaps due to Southeast Asian origins. They are quite distinct from other Chinese art either current or of that period.


25 posted on 08/19/2004 5:37:08 AM PDT by JimSEA ( "More Bush, Less Taxes.")
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To: burrian

absolutely amazing!


26 posted on 08/19/2004 2:29:50 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: burrian

So I would guess there was a t-shirt vendor at the site?


27 posted on 08/19/2004 2:34:03 PM PDT by steveo (Member: Fathers Against Rude Television)
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To: SpaceBar

In that case they probably look more "Babylonian" than Polynesian.


28 posted on 08/19/2004 6:42:05 PM PDT by madison10
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Just updating the GGG information, not sending a general distribution.

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29 posted on 01/03/2006 9:04:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/pledge)
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