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Group says Jesus Christ would vote Democrat
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | 08-19-2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 08/19/2004 6:36:22 AM PDT by boris

Group says Jesus Christ would vote Democrat

By Associated Press

AUSTIN, Texas -- Just a few miles from George W. Bush's former office at the state Capitol, a panel of religious experts weighed a question with relevance to many people of faith: How would Jesus vote?

It's a complex topic that can't be boiled down to simple political terms, said religious leaders who attended a Texas Faith Network conference in Austin on Tuesday.

James C. Moore, renowned anti-Bush co-author of "Bush's Brain: How Karl Rove Made George Bush Presidential," drew laughter and applause when he offered his view to the moderate to liberal crowd of about 250 clergy and lay leaders.

"If ever there were a bleeding-heart liberal, it was Jesus Christ," Moore said at Congregation Agudas Achim synagogue. "I think the carpenter from Galilee was the original Democrat."

Many at the conference voiced concerns that the religious right dominates discussions of faith and morality in politics. They complained that issues such as abortion and gay marriage seem to take priority over hunger, corporate crime and even the war in Iraq.

Some research has found that white Christians who attend worship services at least once a week are far more likely to vote Republican, while less frequent worshippers and those who are not religious tend to lean Democratic. Many analysts have criticized Democrats for failing to more effectively reach religious voters.

"The sound bites and the headlines have co-opted people of faith," said the Rev. Tom Heger, pastor of St. John's Presbyterian Church in Manchaca, south of Austin. "It would be a surprise to a lot of folks to discover that there are some very faithful, regular church attendees who aren't going to vote for Bush."

Conservative pastors such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson "would have us believe that morality is all about where you stand on abortion, how you treat homosexuals. I think that is simply wrong," said John D. Moyers, senior fellow at the Washington-based Center for American Progress.


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As a Jew I got no dog in this fight, but I guess these folks think Jesus was a Socialist.
1 posted on 08/19/2004 6:36:22 AM PDT by boris
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To: boris

JMO - but I think Jesus wouldn't vote. His efforts were directed towards a higher authority.


2 posted on 08/19/2004 6:38:20 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: boris

I'm no theologian, but somehow I just can't see Jesus Christ applauding and openly promoting the plunging of scissors into a partially born baby's skull.


3 posted on 08/19/2004 6:38:36 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: boris

I'm sure Jesus would think it was okay for women to kill their unborn children as casually as they cut their hair. (sarcasm)


4 posted on 08/19/2004 6:38:41 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: boris

""If ever there were a bleeding-heart liberal, it was Jesus Christ," Moore said at Congregation Agudas Achim synagogue. "I think the carpenter from Galilee was the original Democrat.""


This must be those that Christ speaks of that come in his name, and HE tells them to get away from HIM that HE never knew them.


5 posted on 08/19/2004 6:39:02 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: boris

Where Jesus comes from they don't have voting booths.


6 posted on 08/19/2004 6:39:32 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: boris

It has to be true. John Edwards has channeled the information.


7 posted on 08/19/2004 6:40:20 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: boris

Jesus did try to vote once, but he mistakenly voted for Pat Buchanan.


8 posted on 08/19/2004 6:40:50 AM PDT by TheBigB (Your opinion means nothing to me in terms of how I live. But thanks for playing!)
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To: boris

Actually, I think Jesus would probably denounce both parties as being corrupt, just as he did with both main political groups in his day...


9 posted on 08/19/2004 6:41:06 AM PDT by apillar
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To: boris

Oh, I dunno... I'm not much of a theologian, but from what I've gathered Jesus might have loved and forgiven the party of sodomites, religion-haters and babykillers, but I doubt he would've wanted to be one of them...


10 posted on 08/19/2004 6:41:09 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: boris
Jesus supported gay marraige abortion and drug usage as well as lots of sex outside of marriage, porn, child molestation etc. etc. etc.

What a messiah they make him out to be for the liberal causes.

Too bad they're wrong...again..like every time they make an assumption.

11 posted on 08/19/2004 6:41:28 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (Zing!)
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To: boris

I think it is dangerous to attach labels to Christ. I do not know many Christians not voting for Bush. But the Christian Democrats that I know are opposed to gay marriage and abortion.


12 posted on 08/19/2004 6:42:12 AM PDT by KJacob (God's purpose is never the same as man's purpose.)
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To: boris

Seems like a pretty good example of the liberal media publishing Democratic Party propaganda, to me.


13 posted on 08/19/2004 6:42:39 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: boris
Group says Jesus Christ would vote Democrat

If ever there was an independent voter who would vote for principle or character over party, it would have been Jesus. He might have registered with a party so he could vote in primaries, but he would not have ever pulled the party lever.

They complained that issues such as abortion and gay marriage seem to take priority over hunger, corporate crime and even the war in Iraq.

Well, DUH, there's been no effort to get the courts to force a particular religious view on hunger, corporate crime, or the War on Iraq down the throats of the American People, as there have with both abortion and gay marriage.

It's not that religious people don't care about hunger, corporate crime, or the War in Iraq, it's that those issues are being handled legislatively the way they should.

For what it's worth, conservative Christian groups are at the forefront of fighting hunger. Seems they believe you should feed the hungry yourself rather than using the Federal Government to extort money from your fellow citizens for the same purpose.

I don't think there is any controversy regarding Corporate Crime. Both liberals and conservatives know that the Clinton Administration should have been more aggressive in watching Securities matters, don't they?

Shalom.

14 posted on 08/19/2004 6:42:47 AM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: boris

I guess I missed the sermon about the government redistribution of wealth and progressive taxation.


15 posted on 08/19/2004 6:43:09 AM PDT by zencat (Magnetic BUSH/CHENEY bumper stickers ---> www.gwbushmagnets.com)
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To: boris

I've also seen people at gay pride with shirts that say "God is gay".


16 posted on 08/19/2004 6:43:10 AM PDT by biblewonk (neither said any of them that aught of the things which he possessed was his own)
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To: TheBigB

That's just wrong...


17 posted on 08/19/2004 6:43:53 AM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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To: boris

Yeah, I am sure Jesus is against the display of the 10 Commandments, children praying, and nativity scenes being displayed in public.


18 posted on 08/19/2004 6:44:10 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: boris
As a Jew I got no dog in this fight, but I guess these folks think Jesus was a Socialist.

They also must think that Jesus would have been pro abortion. Or that he would have supported gay and lesbian marriage even though it is in direct conflict with their teaching.

19 posted on 08/19/2004 6:44:23 AM PDT by Netizen (Abortion is not a choice -- it's murder. The only 'choice' is which method of birth control to use.)
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To: boris
Lets see here. The RATS believe that two Fags have the same marrage as a man and woman. They believe that its okay for a mother to kill her unborn child right up to the minute it is to be born.
Jesus would go for that. Yeah right.
20 posted on 08/19/2004 6:44:41 AM PDT by wjcsux (Don't be a girly man! Vote Republican!)
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To: boris
This must be the same bunch that published The Flat Earth. Harmless enough group, as long as they are not allowed near sharp tools...
21 posted on 08/19/2004 6:45:19 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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Following in Jesse Jackson's footsteps?

There's no shame in being liberal (Gypsy Jackson says Jesus was a liberal)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1186238/posts
22 posted on 08/19/2004 6:45:45 AM PDT by wmichgrad
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To: wmichgrad

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1186238/posts


23 posted on 08/19/2004 6:46:06 AM PDT by wmichgrad
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To: boris
"If ever there were a bleeding-heart liberal, it was Jesus Christ," Moore said at Congregation Agudas Achim synagogue. "I think the carpenter from Galilee was the original Democrat."

Sounds like a great argument for Jews to be Republicans.

24 posted on 08/19/2004 6:46:17 AM PDT by Inyokern
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To: Just mythoughts
This must be those that Christ speaks of that come in his name, and HE tells them to get away from HIM that HE never knew them.

For what it's worth, Jesus probably would have appreciated some of the ideas of classic liberalism. Unfortunately, today's Democrat party seems more interested in moral license than any of the tenets of classic liberalism. IMHO "compassionate conservatism" is classic liberalism dressed in sheep's clothing.

Shalom.

25 posted on 08/19/2004 6:47:41 AM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: boris

I think Jesus would be spending time with the Dems. He thought it very important to spend his time trying to reach the sinners.


26 posted on 08/19/2004 6:48:07 AM PDT by airborne (Death From Above)
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"It would be a surprise to a lot of folks to discover that there are some very faithful, regular church attendees who aren't going to vote for Bush."

Just certain episcopalian churches.

27 posted on 08/19/2004 6:48:16 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: boris
By golly they are right! Last election, Jesus Christ voted democrat in Chicago six times, three in Milwaukee for the free cigarettes, punched a stack of six hundred cards in Palm Beach County leaving only seventeen pregnant chads, four times in Philadelphia, and personally cast votes on behalf of Paul Wellstone.

In the off election season Christ has been encouraging Mary-Jo Kopechne to switch party affiliation but has been unable to bring her over to the dark side.

28 posted on 08/19/2004 6:48:36 AM PDT by blackdog (Hell is an endless hayfield needing to be raked, baled, and put up.)
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I've also seen people at gay pride with shirts that say "God is gay".

There are a lot of sins in this world of which G-d is pretty tolerant. Habakkuk is a book about a prophet wondering when G-d is going to get down to cases and judge sin.

But I have to wonder how long He will tolerate such egregious blasphemy.

G-d isn't sexual at all. That's why G-d is able to tell us how to place sex in its rightful place in our lives. He created sex. He created us. He knows the appropriate ways for the two go together.

And homosexuality is not one of the ways.

Shalom.

29 posted on 08/19/2004 6:50:39 AM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: stainlessbanner

"Very faithful church attendees" Bahh!!

They don't know the Lord and he will say to them depart from me you workers of iniquity I never knew you.


30 posted on 08/19/2004 6:51:03 AM PDT by DarthVader (John Kerry is really Janet Reno dressed up as a man.)
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To: ArGee

"For what it's worth, Jesus probably would have appreciated some of the ideas of classic liberalism. Unfortunately, today's Democrat party seems more interested in moral license than any of the tenets of classic liberalism. IMHO "compassionate conservatism" is classic liberalism dressed in sheep's clothing."


Just like the attempt to PERVERT the word marriage on this day, the liberals have successfully PERVERTED that word liberal. Clinton's description "depending on the meaning of the WORD "IS", was quite instructive to the bent liberal mind.


However, what is totally ignored by this bunch is that Christ will return with a "SWORD" double edged, cuts both ways, for a harvest, now that is not a "liberal" idea.



31 posted on 08/19/2004 6:54:04 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: boris

Jesus doesn't vote. He's a monarchist.


32 posted on 08/19/2004 6:54:25 AM PDT by dukeman
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To: boris

As a Buddhist I have no dog in this fight but I guess they think Jesus would support Osterizing babies in the womb.


33 posted on 08/19/2004 6:54:37 AM PDT by TigersEye (Democrat. The abortion party.)
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To: DarthVader

Yes indeed


34 posted on 08/19/2004 6:54:42 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: wmichgrad
Actually, Jesus uses a separate system than we do. He is KING! His vote is the one that counts.All this discussion just shows the mindless pablum that Christians believe today. We have never had a LORD, so we don't understand sovereignty. There will be no vote, no discussion, no excuses, when kneeling before Him. Even the baby killers and sodomites will confess He is King! There is no appeal in His system. There is but one Supreme Judge and 2 possible verdicts.

The Lord will not be mocked!

35 posted on 08/19/2004 6:55:12 AM PDT by chuckles
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I like your tagline. However, I think Hell is what man made of Heaven when G-d let man run it his way.

Shalom.

36 posted on 08/19/2004 6:56:16 AM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: Just mythoughts
Clinton's description "depending on the meaning of the WORD "IS", was quite instructive to the bent liberal mind.

Careful, JMT. It was Christianity that started the argument over what the definition of "is" is.

"This is my body, given for you..." (emphasis mine)

Shalom.

37 posted on 08/19/2004 6:57:36 AM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: boris
Jesus isn't even a US citizen. This is such a ridiculous exercise, but thanks for posting it for laughter and discussion.

I don't think Jesus would vote at all, in fact there would be no need to, since when he returns it will be the end of the world anyway (if you believe that).

38 posted on 08/19/2004 6:57:45 AM PDT by conserv13
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To: chuckles
There will be no vote, no discussion, no excuses, when kneeling before Him.

IMHO we won't even be able to open our mouths. If we can, we will be like Isaiah crying: "Woe is me, for I have seen the LORD, and I am a man of unclean lips."

Shalom.

39 posted on 08/19/2004 6:59:15 AM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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After the meeting, members departed to a nearby theater to smoke the chronic and watch a "Hippie Jesus" movie marathon, featuring Jesus Christ Superstar and The Last Temptation of Christ.
40 posted on 08/19/2004 6:59:48 AM PDT by BaBaStooey
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I doubt Jesus would be fighting tooth and nail with the ACLU to remove all references to his father from private and public life. Jesus is a Republican.


41 posted on 08/19/2004 7:00:08 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: boris

These RATS are delusional


42 posted on 08/19/2004 7:00:38 AM PDT by jackbill
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Hmmm...the Democrat Party has two sacraments: Abortion and Gay Marriage. Somehow I can't picture Jesus voting Democrat.


43 posted on 08/19/2004 7:01:37 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Enterprise

Yeah. I recall Him saying something about, "Render unto Caesar ..."


44 posted on 08/19/2004 7:02:02 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: boris

Satan was the first democrat.


45 posted on 08/19/2004 7:02:47 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: boris

I saw this somwhere else and thought it appropriate here
Jesus would not Vote Democrate He'd run as a Republican


46 posted on 08/19/2004 7:05:39 AM PDT by Texas Patriot (Remember....Bunker Hill, The Alamo, Pearl Harbor and The WTC.....never forget HOORAHH!!!!!)
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To: boris; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Radix; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; LaDivaLoca; Fawnn; Bethbg79; ...
AUSTIN, Texas -- Just a few miles from George W. Bush's former office at the state Capitol....

The media is just so absorbed with the Hate Bush mentality. I am getting so sick and tired of this garbage. This past weekend in the PARADE insert of the Austin Pravda, there was an article about people losing their health care.

One of the couples the article interviewed was from Hutto which is 12 - 15 miles east of IH 35 on hiway 79. That actually runs thru Round Rock and is about 20 miles north of the center of Austin. Instead of saying that Hutto is 30 miles NE of Austin, Tx - most people DO know where Austin Tx is located - the Parade magizine had the following statement.

Hutto, which is about a one hour drive from President Bush's Crawford Ranch.....

That comment made me want to puke.

47 posted on 08/19/2004 7:06:00 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (kerry and the RATs can't stand facts or truth.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Satan is Pro-Choice. Kill anyone you want. Reasons are optional.


48 posted on 08/19/2004 7:06:07 AM PDT by TigersEye (Democrat. The abortion party.)
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To: boris; oldglory; MinuteGal; JulieRNR21; mcmuffin; gonzo; sheikdetailfeather; Peach; ...
"As a Jew I got no dog in this fight, but I guess these folks think Jesus was a Socialist."

No - they think Jesus is a RELATIVIST that rejects absolute (self-evident) truth like they do.

Of course, a relativistic worldview positions anyone that thinks like that as a potential threat to our Constitution since our Constitution was only put into place to guard absolute truth.

49 posted on 08/19/2004 7:07:45 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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Does he really think Jesus would support an amoral party of liars, criminals, philanderers, child buggerers, drug abusers, abortionists, queers and athiests? Not to mention a party that hates religion in general and Christianity in particular.


50 posted on 08/19/2004 7:08:09 AM PDT by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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