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Group says Jesus Christ would vote Democrat
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | 08-19-2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 08/19/2004 6:36:22 AM PDT by boris

Group says Jesus Christ would vote Democrat

By Associated Press

AUSTIN, Texas -- Just a few miles from George W. Bush's former office at the state Capitol, a panel of religious experts weighed a question with relevance to many people of faith: How would Jesus vote?

It's a complex topic that can't be boiled down to simple political terms, said religious leaders who attended a Texas Faith Network conference in Austin on Tuesday.

James C. Moore, renowned anti-Bush co-author of "Bush's Brain: How Karl Rove Made George Bush Presidential," drew laughter and applause when he offered his view to the moderate to liberal crowd of about 250 clergy and lay leaders.

"If ever there were a bleeding-heart liberal, it was Jesus Christ," Moore said at Congregation Agudas Achim synagogue. "I think the carpenter from Galilee was the original Democrat."

Many at the conference voiced concerns that the religious right dominates discussions of faith and morality in politics. They complained that issues such as abortion and gay marriage seem to take priority over hunger, corporate crime and even the war in Iraq.

Some research has found that white Christians who attend worship services at least once a week are far more likely to vote Republican, while less frequent worshippers and those who are not religious tend to lean Democratic. Many analysts have criticized Democrats for failing to more effectively reach religious voters.

"The sound bites and the headlines have co-opted people of faith," said the Rev. Tom Heger, pastor of St. John's Presbyterian Church in Manchaca, south of Austin. "It would be a surprise to a lot of folks to discover that there are some very faithful, regular church attendees who aren't going to vote for Bush."

Conservative pastors such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson "would have us believe that morality is all about where you stand on abortion, how you treat homosexuals. I think that is simply wrong," said John D. Moyers, senior fellow at the Washington-based Center for American Progress.


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To: Enterprise

Not an opinion at all. You have bingoed big time. World record time, and spot on. Congratulations, GMTA, I just read the headline in latest posts, and knew this one was about as democrat bogus as bogus gets. Thanks.


51 posted on 08/19/2004 7:08:10 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: boris

No, I'm sure Jesus wouldn't vote Dummycrat...He's just ask God "Do you remember that thing you did with Sodom & Gommorah?"


52 posted on 08/19/2004 7:09:30 AM PDT by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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To: boris

When one reads this tripe, one is always of the opinion, according to the demorats, that Jesus Christ would endorse abortion and/or partial birth abortion? Think not. Lying? Think not. Infidelity? Think not. Not only are the rats trying to remake the Constitution and indoctrinating our children in schools, they are now attempting to remake Christ's own image and what they think Jesus would do. Pathetic.


53 posted on 08/19/2004 7:12:23 AM PDT by smiley (Watch out Dems! I'm a William F. Buckley Conservative!!)
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To: boris
I would say he would probably vote conservative, but I doubt he'd be part of either party.

I don't see any way he'd be a Dem, though... He was too much for personal accountability.

54 posted on 08/19/2004 7:13:44 AM PDT by Homo_homini_lupus (Man is a wolf to man.)
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To: KJacob
But the Christian Democrats that I know...

and what union local do they belong to?

55 posted on 08/19/2004 7:24:08 AM PDT by goo goo g'joob
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To: Homo_homini_lupus
Let's see: Promotes personal responsibility, deep personal faith, ultimate truth, defines adultery as including the lusts of the heart (no quibbling over the definition of "is"), taking care of the poor ourselves instead of having the government do it, protecting the children (including those in the womb) . . . yeah, right, He was a Democrat. *BIG rolleyes*

Ultimately, though, Jesus was a monarchist rather than a Republican--with Himself as the Monarch.

56 posted on 08/19/2004 7:25:19 AM PDT by Buggman ("Those who are foolish in serious things, will be serious in foolish things.")
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To: smiley
they are now attempting to remake Christ's own image and what they think Jesus would do.

What's interesting is that they will ignore eyewitness testimony as to the person of Jesus Christ, or at least edit it, based on their own personal impressions of who Jesus Christ is. Yet most of those Christians who believe they can still hear direct revelation from the Holy Spirit today will not accept such direct revelation without verifying it with The Bible.

But then, the Democrats have never been interested in verifying their facts, have they?

Shalom.

57 posted on 08/19/2004 7:28:21 AM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: ArGee

what about "separation of Church and state??" The reason the Dems hate GWB is because he follows the Ten Commandments. The Dems mock every one of them. They don't listen to religious folk now---there is no place for moral people in the Dem party.


58 posted on 08/19/2004 7:32:05 AM PDT by berkley
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To: boris
"If ever there were a bleeding-heart liberal, it was Jesus Christ," Moore said at Congregation Agudas Achim synagogue. "I think the carpenter from Galilee was the original Democrat."

Any real bleeding heart liberal would vote for Ralph and not the democrat. If they see it any other way they need new glassess.

59 posted on 08/19/2004 7:32:54 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: airborne
I think Jesus would be spending time with the Dems. He thought it very important to spend his time trying to reach the sinners.

Actually this is wrong. Jesus spent time with those open to his message, those that admit that they are sinners and in need of a savior.

60 posted on 08/19/2004 7:38:29 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: P-Marlowe

More to the point, Satan was the "Father of Lies", which means he was the founding father of politics.


61 posted on 08/19/2004 7:51:23 AM PDT by yatros from flatwater (After you've rendered what is God's to God, what exactly remains?)
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To: Coop

exactly.


62 posted on 08/19/2004 7:52:30 AM PDT by go-ken-go
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To: boris
a panel of religious experts weighed a question with relevance to many people of faith: How would Jesus vote?

They should be more concerned about how the terrorists would vote.

63 posted on 08/19/2004 7:59:13 AM PDT by kevao
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To: apillar
Actually, I think Jesus would probably denounce both parties as being corrupt, just as he did with both main political groups in his day...

I agree. He'd be turning tables over left and right.

64 posted on 08/19/2004 8:03:11 AM PDT by eyespysomething ("Funding the American troops in combat should never be a complicated issue." D. Cheney 8-12-04)
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To: zencat
I guess I missed the sermon about the government redistribution of wealth and progressive taxation.

BINGO!

65 posted on 08/19/2004 8:05:15 AM PDT by agrace
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To: boris

There is always some leftwingnut group trying to use Jesus to promote their self serving agenda.

There are the PETA freaks who claimed that Jesus was a vegitarioan despite the fact that Jesus was clearly an observant Jew and ate meat his whole life.

There are the envirowackos with the "what would Jesus drive" stupidity.

There are the butt pirates who try to promote that Jesus was a homosexual.

And now there is a group of goofballs who believe that Jesus would vote for the party that supports all the garbage that the 'Rats cater to like abortion, homosexual marriage, abdicating personal responsibility, elimination of God in our public lives, ad nauseum.


66 posted on 08/19/2004 8:07:53 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: D Rider

I am assuming, of course, that there are some Dems who, for one reason or another (naive, ill-informed, misguided)are potentially save-able.

Jesus can work miracles!


67 posted on 08/19/2004 8:13:55 AM PDT by airborne (Death From Above)
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To: boris
Group says Jesus Christ would vote Democrat

Just like the Democrats, Jesus is well known for his support of unfettered abortion.

68 posted on 08/19/2004 8:15:13 AM PDT by RJL
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To: airborne
I am assuming, of course, that there are some Dems who, for one reason or another (naive, ill-informed, misguided)are potentially save-able.

Jesus can work miracles!

Of course! Then they become republicans!

69 posted on 08/19/2004 8:18:49 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: boris

I'm pretty sure that Jesus would not have voted for abortion, pornography, and gay marriage.


70 posted on 08/19/2004 8:19:06 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: boris

"I think the carpenter from Galilee was the original Democrat."

No, that would be Judas, who wanted to sell Jesus' balm and "give it to the poor."


71 posted on 08/19/2004 8:23:46 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: ArGee

"Careful, JMT. It was Christianity that started the argument over what the definition of "is" is.

"This is my body, given for you..." (emphasis mine)

Shalom."


Yes, Christ was and "is" a very controversial figure and there is nothing new under the sun. Things are on course just as it is written they would be.


72 posted on 08/19/2004 8:24:50 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Matchett-PI
"No - they think Jesus is a RELATIVIST that rejects absolute (self-evident) truth like they do.

Of course, a relativistic worldview positions anyone that thinks like that as a potential threat to our Constitution since our Constitution was only put into place to guard absolute truth."


Especially that acknowledgment by the founding fathers that "Rights given by the Creator no man/government can take", which needs the addition of "no man/government can give".
73 posted on 08/19/2004 8:28:00 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: boris
This is a tough call. The bible says he was friends with both 'sinners and republicans'...
74 posted on 08/19/2004 8:30:27 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (In newspaper spell-checkers, why is 'liberal' always spelled 'm-o-d-e-r-a-t-e'?)
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To: wita

Thank you for your kind post. Jesus certainly must have known that the political system of his time would pass, just as surely as the political system of our time will pass. The "system" he belongs to is eternal.


75 posted on 08/19/2004 8:44:30 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: yatros from flatwater
More to the point, Satan was the "Father of Lies", which means he was the founding father of politics.

Ain't THAT the truth.

After you've rendered what is God's to God, what exactly remains?

Great tag line!

Dwight Pryor (www.jcstudies.com) claims this is precisely what Jesus meant. When he showed the Jews the face on the coin he was showing them a graven image of one of the Roman gods. He was pointing out that the entire debate demonstrated that the Jews were playing at religion and quibbling over details rather than giving their entire lives over to G-d as He required of them.

Shalom.

76 posted on 08/19/2004 10:20:15 AM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: Just mythoughts
Yes, Christ was and "is" a very controversial figure and there is nothing new under the sun.

Of course, The Bible is G-d's inerrant witness to His Holy Word, Jesus. However, we are not inerrant interpreters of His witness.

IMHO: become a disciple of Jesus and the rest will work itself out.

Shalom.

77 posted on 08/19/2004 10:23:19 AM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: Just mythoughts
Especially that acknowledgment by the founding fathers that "Rights given by the Creator no man/government can take", which needs the addition of "no man/government can give".

You don't even have to look for rights given by the Creater. How about rights given by the Constitution? You have a right to an abortion, but not a right to bear arms? What kind of carp is that? Only a Dimocrat could twist reality this badly.

Shalom.

78 posted on 08/19/2004 10:25:09 AM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: boris

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79 posted on 08/19/2004 10:26:18 AM PDT by freddiedavis
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To: ArGee

"Of course, The Bible is G-d's inerrant witness to His Holy Word, Jesus. However, we are not inerrant interpreters of His witness.

IMHO: become a disciple of Jesus and the rest will work itself out.

Shalom."

This is very true, a life long lesson requires continued study, always more to learn.


80 posted on 08/19/2004 10:26:38 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: ArGee
"You don't even have to look for rights given by the Creater. How about rights given by the Constitution? You have a right to an abortion, but not a right to bear arms? What kind of carp is that? Only a Dimocrat could twist reality this badly.

Shalom."


Exactly, they are "gods" reestablishing world order.
81 posted on 08/19/2004 10:29:01 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: boris

The title should have read,

"Democrat Group says Jesus Christ would vote Democrat".


82 posted on 08/19/2004 10:35:51 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Coop

If Jesus were a Democrat, the Ten Commandments would go:

1. Thou shalt worship any God or false idol you wish to worship.
2. Thou shalt not kill... unless the victim is under 9 months of age.
3. Thou shalt envy thy neighbor's property if he is richer than you are, and try to raise his taxes to pay for your laziness.
4. Thou shalt not envy thy neighbor for his wife, end the envy by stealing her husband by luring him into homosexuality.
Etc...


83 posted on 08/19/2004 10:49:37 AM PDT by fhuber
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To: boris

Anyone who would use Jesus as political cannon fodder is not a Christian.


84 posted on 08/19/2004 11:25:33 AM PDT by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: boris

I am sure Jesus loves babies being murdered.


85 posted on 08/19/2004 11:31:57 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: boris
Jos 5:13And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, [Art] thou for us, or for our adversaries?
Jos 5:14And he said, Nay; but [as] captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?
Jos 5:15And the captain of the LORD'S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest [is] holy. And Joshua did so.
86 posted on 08/19/2004 11:33:42 AM PDT by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: boris
Group says Jesus Christ would vote Democrat

These are the same folks that say Jesus would approve of gay marriage.
87 posted on 08/19/2004 11:37:12 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: boris
That's NOT what Christ meant when he said "Suffer the little children..."
88 posted on 08/19/2004 11:41:00 AM PDT by MortMan (Complacency is an enemy sniper)
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To: boris
That's NOT what Christ meant when he said "Suffer the little children..."
89 posted on 08/19/2004 11:41:13 AM PDT by MortMan (Complacency is an enemy sniper)
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To: boris
"If ever there were a bleeding-heart liberal, it was Jesus Christ," Moore said at Congregation Agudas Achim synagogue. "I think the carpenter from Galilee was the original Democrat."

Boris, I wonder how this played at the synagogue? Because I hear from Jews that one of the big reasons for voting Democratic is the strong Christian identity of many Republicans, specifically GW Bush (not that they'd like him any better as a "secularist" I'm sure). If Jesus was a socialist, would he get a pass from secularist Jews?

90 posted on 08/19/2004 11:48:27 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: apillar

Bingo


91 posted on 08/19/2004 11:52:43 AM PDT by Havoc (.)
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To: boris

What makes those guys religious experts?


92 posted on 08/19/2004 11:55:41 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: ArGee
We have a winner! The Roman Imperial denarius had on its "head" the image of Caesar (Augustus) and in the image below the reverse has the inscription "Divi F(ilius)" or divine son (son of god).

Jesus was addressing temple officials (mostly Sadducees) who owed their positions to the Roman authorities. He was asking, so who was/is "god" anyway? He turned away the wrath they'd intended by setting them up in return. I don't think he was endorsing human government at all.

93 posted on 08/19/2004 12:00:47 PM PDT by yatros from flatwater (After you've rendered what is God's to God, what exactly remains? MaCaBeE)
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To: Matchett-PI; oldglory; MinuteGal; JulieRNR21; mcmuffin; gonzo; sheikdetailfeather
It's a known fact...


94 posted on 08/19/2004 6:46:32 PM PDT by mcmuffin (Never trust a liberal with your Liberty!)
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To: boris
How would Jesus vote?

A question that suggests a complete ignorance of the Bible. Jesus made it clear that He was not of the world.

The left often makes this argument during election time. They base it on the view that Jesus was a man of peace. The left is thus confusing worldly peace with eternal peace.

95 posted on 08/19/2004 6:59:45 PM PDT by kidd
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