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WAR HERO DOLE SAYS KERRY IS TO BLAME FOR SCRUTINY OF HIS VIETNAM RECORD
WFMB ^ | 08/22/04 | WFMB

Posted on 08/22/2004 4:27:46 PM PDT by Pikamax

- Former Republican Sen. Bob Dole suggested Sunday that John Kerry apologize for past testimony before Congress about alleged atrocities during the Vietnam War and joined critics of the Democratic presidential candidate who say he received an early exit from combat for "superficial wounds."

Dole also called on Kerry to release all the records of his service in Vietnam.

Separately, President Bush's re-election campaign continued to deny links to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, an anti-Kerry group running ads in three states, after the resignation of a campaign volunteer who appeared in the group's new ad.

With Kerry taking a break from campaigning, running mate John Edwards said Bush needs to tell the group to pull its ads, a step the White House and the Bush campaign refuse to take. The White House and Bush's campaign note that Kerry has benefited from more than $62 million worth of similar advertising against the president.

"This is the moment of truth for President Bush," Edwards said in North Carolina. "The American people have to hear directly that these ads need to come off the air." Kerry also fought back in another new ad.

Dole told CNN's "Late Edition" that he warned Kerry months ago about going "too far" and that the Democrat may have himself to blame for the current situation, in which polls show him losing support among veterans.

"One day he's saying that we were shooting civilians, cutting off their ears, cutting off their heads, throwing away his medals or his ribbons," Dole said. "The next day he's standing there, `I want to be president because I'm a Vietnam veteran.

"Maybe he should apologize to all the other 2.5 million veterans who served. He wasn't the only one in Vietnam," said Dole, whose World War II wounds left him without the use of his right arm.

Dole added: "And here's, you know, a good guy, a good friend. I respect his record. But three Purple Hearts and never bled that I know of. I mean, they're all superficial wounds. Three Purple Hearts and you're out."

Kerry's supporters rose to his defense.

"Senator Kerry carries shrapnel in his thigh as distinct from President Bush who carries two fillings in his teeth from his service in the Alabama National Guard, which seems to be his only time that he showed up," John Podesta, former chief of staff in the Clinton White House, said on ABC's "This Week."

Bush served stateside in the Guard during the Vietnam years. Podesta's reference was to the White House's release of documents earlier this year showing Bush's dental visits during his Guard years after questions arose about whether he had always reported for duty.

Bush-Cheney campaign manager Ken Mehlman also blamed Kerry for the ongoing debate, complaining on NBC's "Meet the Press" that "Kerry himself has attacked the president for his service during the Vietnam years," while the Republican's campaign has "so strongly praised" Kerry's tour of duty in Vietnam.

The Bush campaign also said the Federal Election Commission should immediately dismiss what it termed a "frivolous" complaint by Kerry's campaign alleging coordination between the re-election effort and the Swift Boat group.

The White House and the Bush campaign for weeks have denied any connection to the Swift Boat organization, whose early financial support came largely from a prominent Texas businessman with longtime ties to the state's top Republicans, including Bush.

The group's latest ad includes a Bush-Cheney volunteer, retired Air Force Col. Ken Cordier, condemning Kerry's 1971 congressional testimony that Dole spoke of. Cordier was a prisoner of war during Vietnam.

"Colonel Cordier did not inform the campaign of his involvement in the advertisement," a Bush campaign statement said. "Because of his involvement Colonel Cordier will no longer participate as a volunteer for Bush-Cheney '04."

A new Kerry TV ad urged the president to "denounce the smear" and 'get back to the issues" because America deserves better." The 30-second commercial, to air in the same three states as the Swift Boat group ad - Ohio, West Virginia and Wisconsin - compares Kerry's situation to the 2000 primary campaign when "Bush smeared John McCain."

McCain has condemned the ads and called on the president to do so, too.

In response, Bush's campaign released a copy of a letter it was sending to television station managers on Monday defending itself from the claims in the new Kerry ad.

Questions mounted over the motives of Kerry's critics, two of whom had praised his service in 1996, even as Kerry's supporters faced questions about the candidate. Among the allegations is that Kerry lied about being in neutral Cambodia on Christmas Eve 1968.

"I don't think anyone knows for sure whether or not they were in Cambodia that night, but they were near Cambodia on Christmas Eve," John Hurley, who heads a pro-Kerry veterans group, said on "Fox News Sunday." "He was five miles into Cambodia on a different occasion."

Another allegation is that Kerry was not under enemy fire as after-action reports say he was, an incident for which he received a Bronze Star, one of five medals earned in Vietnam.

"The after-action reports were written from Kerry's spot reports from that day," said Kerry critic Van Odell, also appearing on the same program. "None of us knew he even got the Bronze Star until more recently."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bobdole; kerry; militaryrecord
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To: Jeff Head

Absolutely, what if Bush said to Kerry he wanted Kerry to get F911 out of movie theatres. LOL What hypocrats Kerry and his ilk are. yuck


21 posted on 08/22/2004 4:57:53 PM PDT by mel
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To: Pikamax
With Kerry taking a break from campaigning, running mate John Edwards said Bush needs to tell the group to pull its ads, a step the White House and the Bush campaign refuse to take.

How many breaks does Kerry need from the campaign? And the left complains about Bush's vacation time!

22 posted on 08/22/2004 4:58:10 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: Pikamax

Van Odell did "real good" on his fox appearance. He took no s---. He should, however, have explained why HE would have filed no reports on the incident. NCOs don't file reports, officers do, and as he said, their superiors normally taken them at their word. No one was going to query Kerry about what he wrote. The notion of "officer and gentleman" means something: gentlemen take each other's word as bond. Apparently the after-action report was typed up by some guy a hundred miles away based on a hand-wrtten report from Kerry.


23 posted on 08/22/2004 4:59:17 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: OldFriend

Kerry will never take this advice. He would be smart to take it, but he won't.


24 posted on 08/22/2004 5:00:31 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: umgud
DU has a Dole bashing thread running right now. According to them, he ain't worth spit and some of his medals are in question.

Now *that's* a winning argument. (/sarcasm) I hope the RATs do just that, because it will turn the American people off bigtime to them.

25 posted on 08/22/2004 5:00:47 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: Pikamax

The Transcript!

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0408/22/le.00.html


26 posted on 08/22/2004 5:01:21 PM PDT by Solamente
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To: Pikamax

i'll bet cnn is going "DOH!" right about now


27 posted on 08/22/2004 5:01:44 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it)
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To: NYCVirago

Well, DU is only talking to like-minded people. They are are bloody-minded. Like all "pacifists," of course.


28 posted on 08/22/2004 5:03:26 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Pikamax
"This is the moment of truth for President Bush," Edwards said in North Carolina.

John, you're soooooo silly. A "moment of truth" is about something very, very important. Not some childish whinning by you and your Botoxed boytoy. Wait, I'm sorry, you're HIS boytoy. Sorry... :)

With Kerry taking a break from campaigning...

Seems like about every week and a half sKerry takes time off. This is not good. I suspect he has something very bad wrong and won't go public about it. Gotta make you wonder.

Meanwhile, in another Galaxy, Bill&Hill are doing the happy dance ;)

29 posted on 08/22/2004 5:06:49 PM PDT by upchuck (Well, if I called the wrong number, why did you answer the phone?)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Your link to the site where Kerry's shipmates on the USS Grimley challenge his version of their tour-should be getting more publicity.
The Grimley shipmates are not part of the SBVFT and they are saying exactly what the SBVFTs are saying.
Tour of Duty is apparently filled with more of Kerry's fantasies and fake exploits he claims to have experienced while on the Grimley.
This only adds to the weight of evidence that Kerry is a liar and demented.
And has been for a long time.

John Hurley dug Kerry in deeper today on Fox, when he said that Kerry stands by his Senate testimony about raping and cutting off ears and burning villages.


30 posted on 08/22/2004 5:10:36 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue ( When the going gets tough-John Kerry gets going-far away)
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To: bray

"Who's gonna question a MOH winner in this battle??"
Correction: Dole is not a Medal of Honor winner.
Dole did win a couple of Purple Hearts and unlike Kerry has PROOF that he earned them!


31 posted on 08/22/2004 5:11:20 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: RobbyS
Well, DU is only talking to like-minded people. They are are bloody-minded. Like all "pacifists," of course.

The Boston Globe's editorial today tried to make the case that Kerry was more of a war hero than Dole. Let's see, minor wounds versus losing the use of an arm via combat. Which one was more noble?

32 posted on 08/22/2004 5:12:40 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: InvisibleChurch
What Dole said: "And here's, you know, a good guy, a good friend. I respect his record. But three Purple Hearts and never bled that I know of. I mean, they're all superficial wounds. Three Purple Hearts and you're out."

What CNN reported:"And here's, you know, a good guy, a good friend. I respect his record."

33 posted on 08/22/2004 5:14:59 PM PDT by kaboom
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To: sissyjane
I agree: It's like insisting that we hire him but REFUSING to allow us to see is RESUME.

He's a pig.

34 posted on 08/22/2004 5:17:14 PM PDT by bannie (Liberal Media: The Most Dangerous Enemies to America and Freedom)
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To: OldFriend

Yeah, like they're going to follow his advice.

Dole, besides pointing out the obvious, is doing a good job.

I'd like to hear Liar Tom Harkin (He was never in Vietnam, although he claimed to be) call him a Chicken Hawk.


35 posted on 08/22/2004 5:22:20 PM PDT by Guillermo (OJ is innocent because Mark Fuhrman said the "N" word.)
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To: umgud

At least he earned his Purple Heart.


36 posted on 08/22/2004 5:23:20 PM PDT by Guillermo (OJ is innocent because Mark Fuhrman said the "N" word.)
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To: Pikamax

Notice that the closer the public gets to the Truth about John fonda Heinz, the more savage the attacks against Vets etc by his team. Excactly why they protect him even more when he is shown to be a liar and cheat is because he is more like the typical 'rat. They had a problem with a real hero.


37 posted on 08/22/2004 5:23:59 PM PDT by noodler
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To: Pikamax
With Kerry taking a break from campaigning, running mate John Edwards said Bush needs to tell the group to pull its ads, a step the White House and the Bush campaign refuse to take.

As FReeper JesseJane has succinctly pointed out, President Bush can't direct the Swifties to pull their ads because that would be tantamount to co-ordinating or directing communications with an independent group. A clear violation of McCain/Feingold CFR Act.

You'd think two lawyers like Kerry and Edwards would know better than to suggest to their political opponents that they break the law.

And besides, John Kerry said, "Bring...it....awn."

38 posted on 08/22/2004 5:24:37 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Pikamax
John Kerry is a admitted war criminal or a liar.

Simple qestion here.

Why is John Kerry, an admitted war criminal, running for President of the U.S.A.?

If he is not an admitted war criminal, why is a liar running for President of the U.S.A.?

39 posted on 08/22/2004 5:25:38 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Democrat - It's in the dictionary - It's between "delusional" and "dimwit.")
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To: Texas Eagle
Freeper N. Theknow says:
"It’s faster than a checkbook, more powerful than a Democratic demagogue, able to lay waste to a liar Kerry with the single click of a mouse. It's a little bird of truth, it's plain to see Kerry's unfit... it's... it's...SuperFReep!

Want to join in the fun?
Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth!

40 posted on 08/22/2004 5:26:48 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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