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Explosive Found in Wreckage of Second Russian Jet
ABC News ^ | 8/2/04

Posted on 08/28/2004 5:55:32 AM PDT by freeperfromnj

Aug. 28, 2004 — MOSCOW (Reuters) - Explosives have been found in the wreckage of the second of two jets which crashed almost simultaneously this week, Russia's FSB security service said on Saturday.

"Additional examination of the fragments of the Tu-134 aircraft which crashed Tuesday ... has revealed traces of hexogen," an FSB spokesman said by telephone.

The FSB said Friday that hexogen, more widely known as RDX, had been found in the wreckage of the other plane which crashed Tuesday in southern Russia.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: explosives; hexogen; rdx; russianplanes
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To: MizSterious
Yep. With their heads up their butts too.
61 posted on 08/28/2004 1:54:19 PM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: zarf

Puh-leeze. The Chechens are just another group of Islamonuts. I hope the Russians decimate the place.


62 posted on 08/28/2004 2:51:26 PM PDT by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo])
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To: Indie
I wouldn't be too hard on Putin. HE's not the only one sleeping with the devil.

Very true.

63 posted on 08/28/2004 4:14:28 PM PDT by Netizen (Abortion is not a choice -- it's murder. The only 'choice' is which method of birth control to use.)
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To: zarf
What are a people who do not have the firepower to strike back supposed to do?

They could hold 800 people hostage in a Moscow Theater. Oh wait they DID THAT!

64 posted on 08/28/2004 4:19:09 PM PDT by Netizen (Abortion is not a choice -- it's murder. The only 'choice' is which method of birth control to use.)
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To: freeperfromnj

If this happened in the US, I think it would cause quite a bit bigger stir than we're getting out of Russia. People would be calling for another regime to be flipped. Guess that's why they are leaving us the heck alone. Hope so.


65 posted on 08/28/2004 4:27:05 PM PDT by kinghorse (http://www.demsextrememakeover.com/)
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To: VOA
Maybe they think that not reporting this as terrorist acts will discourage other Islamic delinquents from blowing up more jets.

Erly on before they were reporting that this was terrorism and people were saying if thi sis terrorism why hasn't anyone claimed it yet. I got to thinking about this and while some groups take credit right away, others seem to wait. Maybe waiting for their people to get back to safe houses or something.

Look at the various plane crashes we've had that people thought terrorism, but it would get brushed off by authorities as not being terrorism.

Then we get 9/11. No mistaking that one. Had it been only one plane, they probably would have tried to say it was pilot error, maybe even suggest the pilot had a heart attaack or something. But, with two planes, it was too hard to explain away.

I think that's why they do things in multiples now, because too many governments were hiding the facts that they were terrorist activities.

66 posted on 08/28/2004 4:46:40 PM PDT by Netizen (Abortion is not a choice -- it's murder. The only 'choice' is which method of birth control to use.)
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To: We Happy Few
Why is the NYT soft peddling this story?

Because they want us to think that only our countries foreign policies can cause terrorists to attack -- us.

The Russian's couldn't possibly have the same problem with Muslim terrorists, or so the global dominant media would like us to believe, because they aren't like -- us.

67 posted on 08/28/2004 4:48:12 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: freeperfromnj
So if they don't carry their AQ card in their wallets, they don't qualify as terrorists?

I think they figure that most people are too stupid to put it all together. And some indeed are. You are correct about the common denominator.

68 posted on 08/28/2004 4:49:40 PM PDT by Netizen (Abortion is not a choice -- it's murder. The only 'choice' is which method of birth control to use.)
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To: kinghorse
If this happened in the US, I think it would cause quite a bit bigger stir than we're getting out of Russia. People would be calling for another regime to be flipped. Guess that's why they are leaving us the heck alone. Hope so.

I think they try but are not having any luck. I think that is why they are concentrating on Europe.

69 posted on 08/28/2004 4:53:58 PM PDT by Netizen (Abortion is not a choice -- it's murder. The only 'choice' is which method of birth control to use.)
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To: freeperfromnj

no surprise. obviously terror. wasn't RDX what Ramzi Yousef made and enhanced with compressed hydrogen in the 1993 World Trade Center attack? ("Path to Paradise" - HBO)


70 posted on 08/28/2004 5:11:44 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: freeperfromnj

what a shame, it never stops does it..


71 posted on 08/28/2004 9:17:07 PM PDT by Arena Sphere
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To: Netizen
There are Chechen Jihadi down here in Israel, and their are Palestinians up there too. Jihadi do not see the "artificial lines" of National boundary's in their drive to bring the earth under Islamic subjugation.
72 posted on 08/29/2004 12:43:37 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Travis McGee
“These Chechen ladies blew themselves up for Allah, not for a 'free Grozney.' Their goal is not a free Chechnya, it's to make Chechnya part of the worldwide islamic caliphate.”

Too reasoned and logical an argument, it'll never fly, try again.

--Boot Hill

73 posted on 08/29/2004 1:24:07 AM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: freeperfromnj

I hope this wakes the Russians up to the fact that they too can be attacked by this scum of the earth.


74 posted on 08/29/2004 6:53:06 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: Boot Hill

Yeah, sorry.


75 posted on 08/29/2004 7:35:47 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: zarf
IE, your post #15. That sounds like what the PA sympathizers have been saying for years about the Israelis. I am beginning to wonder about you.
76 posted on 08/29/2004 4:56:03 PM PDT by eastforker (Maybe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure what I said is what I meant_John Kerry)
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To: dimk; A. Pole; Destro; MarMema; Pubbie
To begin with, Grozny not leveled in first war, that was a problem. In second war, yes, but then Russians are not stupid to charge dug in Chechin and rip them from buildings...much better to save own lives and bring buildings down on top of Chechins...but since last time you on you claim to have all such "inside" super secret knowledge, you should know such facts...hmmm.

Difference between US and AlQaeda vs Russians and Chechens is that United states did not not bomb and ravage Saudi arabia, Egypt, Jordan or whatever other country that most of the alQaeda operatives come from.

Yes, in Afghanistan US had Northern Alliance to do such...as for Saudi Arabia, it is US allie that supply Chechins...who are Al Quida...but you should know that...why you don't mention it? Hmmm?

Are you sure you are not Fusion? Seems like you sign up about the same time he is banned. So tell me why it is Chechins who sit in Cuba and why it is Chechins (they speak Russian on videos) cutting heads off Americans? Or why it is Chechins who leave own bodies in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq....excuses, excuses.

Chechens are no angels either. They killed/maimed civilians, sawed off heads, killed russian pensioneers in Grozny for no better reason then that they were russian and did 100 other "nice" things. alQaeda gripe with US is ideology and religion thats what they kill for. Chechens kill in revenge and just to get rid off Russians once and for all.

So which is it, do they kill Russian citizens in Grozny (a Russian/Georgian city) for revenge? Since they start the killings in 1992, which revenge is it to? Or do you refer to the fact that Russia annex Chechnya??? So nice then to also ignore that it is annexed to stop islamic from raiding to slave Russians and Georgians to sell to ther islamics...funny how history show your arguments in real light. Grozny and all northern Chechnya not Chechin till 1920s when they allie with Stalin to exterminate the Tarek Cossaks...guess why they called Tarek...might it be the name of the river that runs through Grozny and N. (Tarek) Chechin lands....but of course like good islamics (as in Bosnians and Albanians and others) they side with Hitler too.

For that matter, it is nice of you to ignore all the Arabs, Turks and others who die in Chechnya daily serving Jihad. Your whole argument is a lie and Chechyns themselves show it on their websites of Kavkaz.org and others, where they admit straight forward to wanting a Taliban republic...lies, lies, lies...that is all you have.

And Russians were never "good" to begin with. They had no choice and same is true of Chechens.

Well that is funny since it is the Chechins who in 1992 ethnically cleanse 400,000 Russians, Georgians, Armenians and Jews and 450,000 own peoples...it is Chechins who between 1996-1999 kidnap 1,500 peoples plus. It is Chechins who in 1999 INVADE Daghistan and extermiante whole villages (and video tape snuff flickst of selves). It is Chechins who blow up trains, apartment buildings, concert, restuarants...so I believe it is now the Russian right who have no choice but to rid of Chechins.

Oh and how is it feel to shill for Islam? Does it pay good? Are their bonus virgins?

77 posted on 08/29/2004 6:27:00 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Long Cut

Blood thirsty.


78 posted on 08/29/2004 6:27:39 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: LibWhacker

DIMk appears now and then and does so...defend Islamics by making such excuse...he claims to have "super secret" inside Russian knowledge...metal hat alert.


79 posted on 08/29/2004 6:30:21 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Another STalin will not come, did a Stalin come to the US to allow US to bomb with fire the civilian houses of all German cities? No. A Stalin is not needed...just more of such bombings till the people are so pissed to say...kill them all...and the elected government do so.


80 posted on 08/29/2004 6:32:47 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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