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Islamists in Russia – This is What They Did - Don't Wait for Alphabet Networks to Cover it - Graphic
Various | 9-3-04

Posted on 09/03/2004 11:38:01 AM PDT by tallhappy


A man carries an injured child who escaped from a seized school in Beslan, North Ossetia, Friday, Sept. 3, 2004. Commandos stormed a school Friday in southern Russia where hundreds of hostages had been held for three days, sending hostage-takers and their captives fleeing in a scene of chaos amid explosions and gunfire. More than 100 children were wounded in the assault, some running from the building naked and covered in blood. (AP Photo/Ivan Sekretarev)










An injured schoolgirl who escaped from the seized Russian school holds a cross in her hand in a hospital in Beslan, North Ossetia, Russia Friday, Sept. 3, 2004. Commandos stormed a school Friday in southern Russia where hundreds of hostages had been held for three days, sending hostage-takers and their captives fleeing in a scene of chaos amid explosions and gunfire. More than 100 children were wounded in the assault, some running from the building naked and covered in blood. (AP Photo/Musa Sadulayev)


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To: jusduat

I agree.

Everyone needs to get ready.

This war is coming to a town near you.

We must do whatever it takes to finish these bastards off.

Seal the damn borders already, for G-ds sake.

This PC sh** is going to cause the death of our country.


151 posted on 09/03/2004 12:53:29 PM PDT by Mossad1967
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To: tallhappy

I sit here wondering how the NEA might react to the fact that the people they are teaching American kids to emulate in class (prayers, slanted history, etc,) are busily murdering school children elsewhere in the world.

Kind of hard to deny the photos or blame in on G.W. Bush when it happens in Russia.

PS: someone needs to make that cross-in-hand photo into a poster and send profits to relief agencies in Russia.


152 posted on 09/03/2004 12:54:29 PM PDT by norton
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To: GraniteStateConservative

I was wondering the same thing. The ones they let out on day one were naked too... It may have been the temperature, but why were the earlier ones disrobed?


153 posted on 09/03/2004 12:55:08 PM PDT by max_rpf
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To: Tantumergo
I hope your security services get their act together before November!!!

And we hope for that in England as well....your danger may be much greater....

154 posted on 09/03/2004 12:57:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Avenger
It will be sad if it gets to that point but I am all for if it becomes necessary.

Sad? Is it sad when the blind can see? Is it sad when ignorance is enlightened? No, it will not be sad. Rather, it will represent wisdom gained and acted upon.

155 posted on 09/03/2004 12:59:15 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: All

More raw video footage from the Russian school shootout.

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=576772&section=news

middle of the page.


156 posted on 09/03/2004 12:59:23 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: tallhappy

Grrrrrr!

R Hedgecock is filling in for Rush today, A caller summed it all up when she said:

"where is Kerrys outrage against the real baby killers in russia?"


157 posted on 09/03/2004 12:59:43 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Old Sarge
Burn these images into your minds, and onto your hard drives, because four days from now, NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM WILL REMAIN! Not even the deepest most expensive Lexus search shall find them!

Good point. Images burned and saved.

158 posted on 09/03/2004 1:00:14 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: tallhappy
Oh dear God help them.

Keep this bumped

159 posted on 09/03/2004 1:00:23 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (Max Cleland : The jock-sniffer for war veterans/Coulter 2/2004)
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To: Land of the Irish; Maximilian; Salvation; NYer; Canticle_of_Deborah; MarMema

Ping for the "Religion of Peace".

You might want to alert your ping-lists to this thread.

MarMema, see the last photo on this post - you'll see why these kids were targets!


160 posted on 09/03/2004 1:00:36 PM PDT by Tantumergo
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To: tallhappy

bump for later


161 posted on 09/03/2004 1:01:36 PM PDT by bellas_sister
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To: My2Cents

A really awesome photo. It's a sign that people get it everywhere — except in Massachusetts.


162 posted on 09/03/2004 1:02:45 PM PDT by Wolfstar (We need a President who not only is living in the present, but understands it.)
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To: tallhappy

What gets me incensed is not only are the normal channels not covering it, but CNN, MCNBS are putting Clinton above it and FNC isn't much better


163 posted on 09/03/2004 1:05:38 PM PDT by JustPiper (Zell " We are LIBERATOR'S NOT Obstructionists!!!" Miller- OCCUPY THIS KERRY !!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"....your danger may be much greater...."

You are probably right. The great tolerant, multi-cultural Blair Government is happy to let these slami pigs recruit and plan their terrorism from mosques in our capital.

When you dance with the devil......!


164 posted on 09/03/2004 1:05:42 PM PDT by Tantumergo
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To: neutrino

"Sad? Is it sad when the blind can see? Is it sad when ignorance is enlightened? No, it will not be sad. Rather, it will represent wisdom gained and acted upon."

It will be sad because many people will have had to die before people will open their eyes to this and act.


165 posted on 09/03/2004 1:05:56 PM PDT by Avenger
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To: tallhappy


166 posted on 09/03/2004 1:07:09 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: tallhappy

Glass Chechnya.


167 posted on 09/03/2004 1:07:19 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: tallhappy

Fellow Americans, I only hope that here in America, women, Blacks, Jews, Christians, Gays, etc. realize that this slaughter will happen to them if John Kerry and that idiot John Edwards ever get elected POTUS! Bin Laden is just itching for a Kerry "win". The joke is that all these people, or at least most of them, will vote for John Kerry, thereby by signing their own death warrants!!! These pictures break my heart, and the fact that John Kerry wants to make nice with these maniacs really ticks me off!! Please help us destroy John Kerry and his traitor Democrat Party this November at the ballot box!!!


168 posted on 09/03/2004 1:08:09 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Death To all Muslim Terrorists!


169 posted on 09/03/2004 1:08:15 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Wolfstar

"But the rescuer wearing a T-shirt with the American flag gave me chills. "

WOW!

I didn't see that!


170 posted on 09/03/2004 1:11:02 PM PDT by Kennesaw
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To: Old Sarge

Roger That Sarge ~ Bump!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Death To all Muslim Terrorists!


171 posted on 09/03/2004 1:11:08 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: tallhappy

Never loose these photos.

What more evidence does the world need?


172 posted on 09/03/2004 1:11:31 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are still very few shades of gray.)
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To: tallhappy


173 posted on 09/03/2004 1:12:08 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: musicman; All
wow...."a religion of peace with pictures to prove it", BTTT

You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority. - Koran, Surah IV:91, "The Women." [Black Widows?]

"Jihad becomes a duty binding on all Muslims.... We must spread the spirit of Jihad among the [Islamic] Umma, clash with the enemies and join the ranks of the Jihad fighters.... I indeed wish to go to war for the sake of Allah! I will assault and kill, assault and kill, assault and kill." - Hamas Charter, Article 15.

Mohammed, The Mad Poet Quoted....

174 posted on 09/03/2004 1:12:38 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: JATO

America does not have the nads to do this. I agree though and think that islam must be destroyed. They say only 10% are "bad" I think the figure is much higher and I believe that every mosque in america teaches that all non muslims should be killed. Even those who are not actively murdering infidels are praying for the destruction of us.There might be a few "good" muslims but there are very very few and they do not speak up.

Enough of the freedom of religion crap. Our founding fathers had no intention of granting freedom to muslims who were bent on beheading them. That is ridiculous. If you want to be a muslim and believe in allah then head to SA if they will have you.

I pray that they can be converted but better they be dead then anymore "infidels" be killed in the name of allah. There is nothing humane about these animals. I hate to say it but better we kill them before they kill us and I pray that they are not allowed to kill anymore americans. If we have one more death we should destroy all mosques in america.

I know that is wild and farfetched. Many will call me crazy but we have never faced a enemy in this manner before and its all or nothing. I am afraid the slimey, spineless politicians in DC will bend over, hike their skirts, and pull down their panties the next time a "independant muslim fundy murders americans on our soil.


175 posted on 09/03/2004 1:12:49 PM PDT by winodog (JFK is a double minded man, unstable in all his ways)
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To: blackie

Copy that!

Death To All Terrorists!


176 posted on 09/03/2004 1:14:37 PM PDT by Freemeorkillme
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To: LurkedLongEnough; All
Teachers and administrators should have the right--nay, the responsibility--to carry in public and private schools.

The Second Amendment - Commentaries

177 posted on 09/03/2004 1:15:56 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: Freemeorkillme

Right-on ~ Bump!


178 posted on 09/03/2004 1:16:00 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: bboop
My music teacher, who is Russian, said he heard that the Islamo**turds let the parents in, they could get ONE child but had to leave the other behind. They shot the children in the back. They are barbarians.

I thought I heard Dana Lewis on FoxNews (he is in Russia) say that about parents had to choose.

I read a post early today that said a wounded terrorist was being carried on a stretcher. Locals interrupted his being carried to an ambulance, took him from his stretcher and lynched him.

[Sometimes vigilante justice is needed because civilization becomes hampered and handstrung by the PC of the legal system and lawyers.]
179 posted on 09/03/2004 1:16:20 PM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: tallhappy
George W. Bush on Chechnya, A Clear Miscalculation

In supporting reforms in Russia, however, Bush stated emphatically that "we cannot excuse Russian brutality. When the Russian government attacks civilians-killing women and children, leaving orphans and refugees-it can no longer expect aid from international lending institutions. The Russian government will discover that it cannot build a stable and unified nation on the ruins of human rights. That it cannot learn the lessons of democracy from the textbook of tyranny. We want to cooperate with Russia on its concern with terrorism, but that is impossible unless Moscow operates with civilized restraint."

Four months later, as the following exchange on February 16, 2000 between candidate Bush and journalist Jim Lehrer during The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer demonstrates, Bush promised to do more regarding Chechnya.

JL: On Chechnya and Russia, the U.S. and the rest of the Western world had been raising Cain with Russia from the beginning, saying "You are killing innocent civilians." The Russians have said essentially, "We're fighting terrorism, and, by the way, mind your own business." What else-what else, if anything, could be done by the United States?

GWB: Well, we could cut off IMF aid and export/import loans to Russia until they heard the message loud and clear, and we should do that. It's going to be a very interesting issue to see how Russia emerges, Jim. This guy, Putin, who is now the temporary president, has come to power as a result of Chechnya. He kind of rode the great wave of popularity as the Russian military looked like they were gaining strength in kind of handling the Chechnya situation in a way that's not acceptable to peaceful nations. . . .

JL: But on Chechnya, specifically, you think we should not-we should hold up International Monetary Fund aid. Anything else we should do?

GWB: Export/import loans.

JL: And just cut them off? GWB: Yes, sir, I think we should.

JL: Until they do what? GWB: Until they understand they need to resolve the dispute peacefully and not be bombing women and children and causing huge numbers of refugees to flee Chechnya.

JL: And do you think that would work?

GWB: Well, it certainly worked better than what the Clinton administration has tried.

JL: You mean, just using words, you mean?

GWB: Yes.

From Confrontation to Reengagement

In the first weeks of his administration, President Bush and his new foreign policy team signaled their intention to maintain a tough line on Russia and Chechnya in particular. After being named national security adviser but before taking office, Condoleezza Rice wrote an opinion piece for the Chicago Tribune in which she restated many themes of her Foreign Affairs essay from a year earlier. In the December 31, 2000 newspaper column, Rice emphasized again that "the United States needs to recognize that Russia is a great power" and therefore "U.S. policy must concentrate on the important security agenda with Russia." At the same time, she also reiterated many of Russia's domestic ills, including weak democratic institutions, half-hearted economic reforms, and corruption. She devoted special attention to the ill effects of the Chechen war and Putin's role in it: "As prime minister, Vladimir Putin used the Chechnya war to stir nationalism at home while fueling his political fortunes. The Russian military has been uncharacteristically blunt and vocal in asserting its duty to defend the integrity of the Russian Federation-an unwelcome development in civil-military relations.

The long-term effect of the war on Russia's political culture should not be underestimated. This war has affected the relations between Russia and its neighbors in the Caucasus, as the Kremlin has been hurling charges of harboring and abetting Chechen terrorists against states as diverse as Saudi Arabia, Georgia, and Azerbaijan. The war is a reminder of the vulnerability of the small, new states around Russia and of America's interest in their independence." Rice hoped that this blunt statement about Russia's problems and their impact on United States interests would stand in contrast to the sugar-coated rhetoric of the Clinton years, which, in her opinion, greatly damaged United States national security: "Frustrated expectations and 'Russia fatigue' are direct consequences of the 'happy talk' in which the Clinton administration engaged."

In spring 2001, Bush and his foreign policy team did seem determined to end the "happy talk." In March his administration ordered the expulsion of nearly 50 Russian diplomats from the United States, who were accused of being spies. Bush personally did not make any statements about Chechnya in his first months in power, but his State Department sent a loud signal of support for the Chechen cause by arranging a meeting between the Chechen foreign minister in exile, Ilyas Akhmadov, and the acting head of the State Department's Bureau of Newly Independent States, John Beyrle, the highest-level meeting ever with a Chechen government official. In this early period, Bush officials also seemed poised to maintain a tough line on Russia's relations with rogue states.

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And today, the world knows the truth......

180 posted on 09/03/2004 1:17:23 PM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: tallhappy

This is so horrific that there are just no words...just prayers. I truly fear that this may be a new terrorist trend. God help us all


181 posted on 09/03/2004 1:21:33 PM PDT by LadyJMayo
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To: SittinYonder; BrooklynGOP

The author is a former russian who moved to the US as a child, and he is a fellow FReeper...


182 posted on 09/03/2004 1:23:37 PM PDT by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: tallhappy

bumping this again.......outraged as hell


183 posted on 09/03/2004 1:24:20 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda
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To: Old Sarge

BTTT!!!!!!


184 posted on 09/03/2004 1:24:39 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: mikhailovich

Ilyas Akhmadov does not sound like someone who would cohort with arabian militants. Maybe it's just me...


185 posted on 09/03/2004 1:30:08 PM PDT by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: tallhappy

This disgusts me. These people deserve death.


186 posted on 09/03/2004 1:32:50 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (John Kerry - bringing the B game to an A game park!)
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To: E.G.C.
Fellow Baslan Comrades,

I shake with rage for you.
I bite back tears for you.
My blood is on fire for you.
I pray for you.
I will not forget you.
I support you.
I grieve with you.
I will strike with you.
I will smite with you.
I will sustain you.

~Freedom
187 posted on 09/03/2004 1:34:33 PM PDT by Freemeorkillme
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To: tallhappy

Do you guys remember that heart wrenching photo, from the Oklahoma City bombing, of the fireman cradling the baby in his arms?

These photos bring the same emotion to life. How could anyone do such a thing to innocents?

May God have mercy on their souls.


188 posted on 09/03/2004 1:35:09 PM PDT by Darnright
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To: tallhappy; BurbankKarl
I saw a network news last night which stated the hostage situation was related to Russia's war in Chechneya -- nothing about Islamofascism or Islam at all.

This is obscene. What I really think should happen to the presstitutes can not be said without getting banned. I mean if I really said I think they should all be hung as traitors, someone might get mad. Just like if I said they will be the first targets of the next Civil War, someone might get mad. [OOppps.]

189 posted on 09/03/2004 1:36:45 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Darnright

Are we going to wait until this happens in St. Louis? If we elect Kerry it will. Think about it.


190 posted on 09/03/2004 1:36:51 PM PDT by 1smallVoice (Clinton brought us Bush)
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To: Tantumergo

Attempted Convention Distraction?

The first attack, ending a long relatively peaceful period, were two aircraft exploding simultaneusly, an unmistakable Al Qaeda trademark.

Another attack a few days later, nothing major, but just enough to keep attention focused on Russia.

Then the school attack overlapping the conclusion of the Convention in New York.

Why did the event end so suddenly?

Why didn't the terrorists allow the children to use the restroom or drink water? This will cause severe medical problems within 48 to 72 hours, and shortly thereafter, deprive the terrorists of hostages. Did they plan all along to execute the children on a pre-arranged schedule to coincide with the end of the Convention?

If the attack was intended to swing the Chechen election, why did the series of attacks continue after the election was over. Al Qeada plans these attacks months or years in advance.

If this is the case, the terrorists missed the mark completely, due to the vague priorities of the US media, who were only interested in the hurricane and the convention.

But it illustrates how far they arer willing to go to try and escape four more years of Bush's vendetta against them.

Obviously, we aren't going to be ready the first time it happens here. But what about the second?

By what methods and procedures will we begin to train our civilians to defend themselves, hand to hand or with weapons. How well will we train our own children in making war against those who would use them for their political agenda?

Will we be willing, not just in America, but across the globe to stop squabbling with the French or the Russians to unite against a common enemy?

Will we be willing to eliminate the human sea of camoflage the terrorists operate behind? To deport or inter Muslims, and to declare the remaining terrorists open targets, to declare that Islam is no lonmger a religion welcome outside of Islamic lands?

We hvae a binary solution set. One option is to endure what we just saw happen in Russia, over and over.

We won't be ready to make the other choice until we have seen even more attacks of this kind.


191 posted on 09/03/2004 1:39:59 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: Freemeorkillme
Copy that!

Death To All Terrorists!

Working on it:


192 posted on 09/03/2004 1:43:23 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: Darnright
Do you guys remember that heart wrenching photo, from the Oklahoma City bombing, of the fireman cradling the baby in his arms?


193 posted on 09/03/2004 1:45:49 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: Mo1
Is this why Russia called for an emergency UN Security Counsel meeting yesterday?

Yes.
194 posted on 09/03/2004 1:45:57 PM PDT by silversky
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To: self_evident
On the issue of Chechnya, it is us who have been playing footsie with the French and Germans and complaining about Russia's treatment of Chechnya.

Has GW denounced Russia's handling of Chechnya?

195 posted on 09/03/2004 1:48:14 PM PDT by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: tallhappy

BTTT


196 posted on 09/03/2004 1:48:26 PM PDT by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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To: tallhappy

Your letter was sent to the President of the Russian Federation 04/09/2004 at 00:49 MOSCOW time. Thanks!



Prayers sent. http://www.gov.ru/main/page8.html


197 posted on 09/03/2004 1:48:58 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: tallhappy

Grrr...


198 posted on 09/03/2004 1:49:26 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Freemeorkillme
Fellow Baslan Comrades,

I shake with rage for you...

Kindly direct your thoughts directly to Russian President Putin and the people of Baslan *here*.

199 posted on 09/03/2004 1:49:44 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: SkyPilot
It became very hot in the gym where the children and others were kept. No water nor food for three days. Hence the pictures of the children and others drinking bottles of water and in states of undress.
I can't imagine the horror of those three days. Prayers to those children and their families. I would not want to be the bad guys over there right about now.

Red

200 posted on 09/03/2004 1:53:26 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (I love the 1st Amendment...Zell Miller can speak the truth.)
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