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Latest smear alleges Kerry was AWOL with Bush
toronto star ^ | 9/6/04 | Linwood Barclay

Posted on 09/06/2004 1:19:45 PM PDT by knak

Just when you thought the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth couldn't come up with anything nastier in their bid to smear Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, along comes their latest commercial.

No longer content to suggest Kerry didn't earn his Purple Hearts while serving in Vietnam, the Swifties are now saying that not only wasn't Kerry in Vietnam during periods when he claims he was, he was actually hanging out with George W. Bush during the future president's stint with the National Guard in Alabama.

"And we know what that means," said John O'Neill, spokesperson for the Swift Boat Veterans. "That means we have no idea where Kerry was at all."

The Swifties are looking specifically at the period between the spring of 1972, when Bush's whereabouts as a member of the National Guard were unknown, and February, 1973, when John Kerry was discharged.

"None of Kerry's military records contain any details of what he was doing with George W. Bush at this time," says the voice-over in the latest commercial spot. "And because President Bush's records are completely inconclusive with regard to his service with the National Guard, that leaves John Kerry with a lot of explaining to do."

Asks O'Neill, "Was Kerry out carousing with a young George W. Bush when the future president was supposed to be showing up for his physical but didn't? Was Kerry relaxing at the beach with George W. Bush when the future president was supposed to be showing up for regular Guard duty? Was Kerry hanging out in some bar with George Bush when the future president was supposed to be on active flight duty status? I don't know. The American people don't know. And the President can't remember. Maybe it's time John Kerry came clean."

Kerry, predictably, has reacted angrily, and forcefully, to the latest attacks on his integrity. Yesterday, he issued the following statement: "Huh?"

His vice-presidential running mate, John Edwards, was even more emphatic: "Say what?"

Republican senator John McCain, a veteran and former prisoner-of-war in Vietnam, has called on President Bush, whose re-election campaign he is supporting, to denounce these most recent attack ads from the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

"This is an absolutely disgusting accusation," McCain said. "To allege that a decorated war veteran such as Mr. Kerry was hanging out with President Bush during his AWOL period is gutter politics at its worst."

But President Bush has refused to condemn the ads outright, instead opting to criticize third-party advertising in general. "There have been lots of ads out there that were critical of me, too," he said.

The White House is understandably reluctant to be too openly critical of the Swift Boat ads, given that they have been financed by folks who have contributed generously to the Republican party.

Said White House press secretary Scott McClennan: "Mr. Kerry seems to be Mr. Oh-So-Sensitive."

The Swift Boat ads have the Kerry team on the defensive, and scrambling to provide witnesses who can discount stories that the Democratic presidential hopeful was hanging out with George W. Bush during his military service back in the early 1970s.

"We thought," said one Kerry strategist, "if we could find just one person who served alongside George Bush, then that person could attest to the fact that John Kerry was not there with him, but so far we've been unable to find anybody, so we're like, totally screwed."

The latest ads, despite accusations that they are without any factual basis, appear to be doing what they're intended to do. Kerry's popularity numbers are dropping while the Republican party's numbers are up.

Said one veteran, "I think people see these ads and think, `Do we want to vote for a guy who was loafing about doing nothing with George W. Bush back during the Vietnam years?' Well, we don't. That's why we're supporting the president."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: herecomethegullible; kerry; satire; swiftboatveterans

1 posted on 09/06/2004 1:19:46 PM PDT by knak
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To: knak

I heard they smoked crack together at Camp David.


2 posted on 09/06/2004 1:20:47 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Senator Kerry is all rice, no shrapnel.)
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To: knak
That's SO funny! What a clever wag he is.
3 posted on 09/06/2004 1:21:34 PM PDT by Petronski (With what? Spitballs!?!)
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To: knak

This guy writes for The Onion or Scrappleface in his spare time, right? Or is the humor too subtle for me?


4 posted on 09/06/2004 1:22:28 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Beslan -- the true face of Islam.)
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To: Petronski

Lame.

Deduct points for not mentioning Skull and Bones.


5 posted on 09/06/2004 1:22:57 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: knak

What the heck? Is this a satirical column? Are the swifties actually running such an ad? I can't imagine it.


6 posted on 09/06/2004 1:23:23 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: knak
Just when you thought the MSM could sink any lower in avoiding their responsibility to objectively report the news they make a statement like: "Just when you thought the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth couldn't come up with anything nastier in their bid to smear Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry".
7 posted on 09/06/2004 1:24:08 PM PDT by IonInsights
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To: MineralMan

No, the Swiftees are not running such an ad. This is supposed to be funny, while making the point that Bush was "AWOL"...which he wasn't, but nevermind the facts.


8 posted on 09/06/2004 1:25:15 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (God bless Senator Zell Miller.)
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To: knak

The saddest part is that there are KerNUCKS that will believe it.


9 posted on 09/06/2004 1:25:21 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

"No, the Swiftees are not running such an ad. This is supposed to be funny, while making the point that Bush was "AWOL"...which he wasn't, but nevermind the facts."

OK. Not funny. Poor satire. I'm pretty good at recognizing satire and this one is bad.


10 posted on 09/06/2004 1:28:49 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: IonInsights

Oh, this is suppose to be a joke. Excuse me, just from reading the first sentence I thought it was another installment from the Propoganda Ministry.


11 posted on 09/06/2004 1:32:58 PM PDT by IonInsights
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To: knak

Well, that was a wonderful bit of clap trap that never made me want to wretch! /extreme sarcasm

12 posted on 09/06/2004 1:33:23 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: knak
February, 1973, when John Kerry was discharged.

I thought Kerry wasn't discharged until 1978? Stupid reporter?

13 posted on 09/06/2004 1:34:33 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: SandRat

Seems like every day I see another poll from a Canadian paper where Kerry has a huge advantage. LOL
Attention Canada: We don't care what you think. It's not your election to decide. MYOB!!


14 posted on 09/06/2004 1:35:57 PM PDT by Ludicrous
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To: IonInsights

Another Free Republic I.Q. Test.


15 posted on 09/06/2004 1:36:38 PM PDT by Belisaurius ("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Ted" - Joseph Kennedy 1958)
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To: knak

I can't believe that this is the subject of a new ad by the Swift Boat Veterans. Doesn't this ad seem to equally caste George W. Bush in a bad light. The net result in the long run would be to make both Kerry and Bush look bad thereby gaining no positive result of diminishing Kerry on a relative basis in the election. In fact, it looks a bit as though one is stretching the case in order to oppose Kerry here, which could also backfire. There is much more damaging strong evidence against Kerry, such as meeting with the North Vietnamese in Paris.

This is a bit surreal. By diminishing Bush here also, there may be no net gain against Kerry and perhaps even a loss. Maybe I just woke up too late on a holiday, and I'm not thinking straight.


16 posted on 09/06/2004 1:37:27 PM PDT by Cycle watcher
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To: Jeff Chandler

I heard Kerry was drinking with Teddy down by the Dike Bridge comparing lies, um, fishing stories.


17 posted on 09/06/2004 1:38:07 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: MineralMan

I agree. It sucks.

(But hearing liberals carry on about the military is always good for a laugh, on some level.)


18 posted on 09/06/2004 1:39:18 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (God bless Senator Zell Miller.)
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To: Cycle watcher

This article is satire. Have some coffee. LOL


19 posted on 09/06/2004 1:39:51 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (God bless Senator Zell Miller.)
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To: MineralMan
This is supposed to be funny, while making the point that Bush was "AWOL"...

And that Kerry might have been AWOL. Do you really think he showed up for all of his mandatory visits as a reservist while he was active in VVAW?

20 posted on 09/06/2004 1:42:33 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: SandRat

Too bad, they don't get to vote.


21 posted on 09/06/2004 1:42:49 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Belisaurius

Yes, but at least I can glance at a pile of spilled toothpicks and tell you exactly the number, minus of course those left in the box :)


22 posted on 09/06/2004 1:42:57 PM PDT by IonInsights
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To: knak
O.K. Now my fuzzy head sees that it is satire. For a second I thought that the Swift Boat Veterans were committing suicide. I withdraw my earlier post.
23 posted on 09/06/2004 1:44:05 PM PDT by Cycle watcher
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To: knak

Bush wasn't AWOL, he was on a secret mission in Cambodia.


24 posted on 09/06/2004 1:45:05 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Jeff Chandler
I heard they smoked crack together at Camp David.

You just encapsulated the Democrat and Media response.

The are desperate.

25 posted on 09/06/2004 1:45:38 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: knak
He's smokin' now, boy!


26 posted on 09/06/2004 1:46:57 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Googolplex Star Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: All
"This is an absolutely disgusting accusation," McCain said. "To allege that a decorated war veteran such as Mr. Kerry was hanging out with President Bush during his AWOL period is gutter politics at its worst."

Well gee thanks John. So Kerry wasn't with Bush during his AWOL period. Normally you would think a republican would say such a thing and the reporter is making it up. But we are dealing with the bitter Manchurian RINO here. Someone needs to flush this John along with the other two.

27 posted on 09/06/2004 1:54:12 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Shermy
Deduct points for not mentioning Skull and Bones.

He is saving that for his next article.

28 posted on 09/06/2004 1:54:56 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: knak

"Was Kerry hanging out in some bar with George Bush..."

He would have, but George couldn't stand it any more when Kerry kept changing his mind between a beer and a white whine spritzer ...


29 posted on 09/06/2004 2:05:10 PM PDT by RS (The Truth may be slimy, but it is never slime)
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To: knak

Sounds like satire and the link doesn't work.


30 posted on 09/06/2004 2:15:59 PM PDT by Ruth A.
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To: knak
The author should not quit his day job.

God help the Toronto Star if this is his day job.

31 posted on 09/06/2004 2:17:39 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: knak
"Latest Smear"?

Naw, here's yer Latest Smear.

32 posted on 09/06/2004 2:17:42 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: knak


I purchased the video, "THE HANOI HILTON" at Wal-Mart a few weeks ago. It was on sale for $5.99. I recall seeing the movie on television many years ago. I had a chance to watch the movie yesterday and now the movie, more than ever is relevant to the anti-war activities of John Kerry during the Vietnam War. Especially how the POW's were tortured many times due to the actions of John Kerry, Jane Fonda and their friends in the media.

If you have an opportunity to view it I recommend highly that you see this movie. It is a glimpse of what the POW's went through while held prisoner by the Communist North Vietnamese.

The video is available from Amazon and other online video stores.

From website: "Shot in the Dark" http://www.shotinthedark.info/

"In 1987, Lionel Chetwynd's excellent Hanoi Hilton received widely-mixed reviews (many of them politically-motivated). Worse, its distributor essentially sat on the movie, under pressure from Hollywood leftists, for its treatment of Jane Fonda. The movie depicted life at North Vietnam's Hoa Lo prison accurately - but it changed the last names of the prisoners, and of their visitors, including Jane Fonda. An actress who represents Fonda ("Paula") does everything Fonda is said to have done while in the Hilton. That was one of several stories that Hollywood didn't want told (that and, of course, the moral of the story; the men survived because of their military training and warrior ethic). "Hanoi Hilton" was buried, received a tiny theatrical release, and is hard to find on video today. (Do it if you can - it's an excellent movie)."




On the back of the box there is the following endorsement from President Ronald Reagan:

"Every American should see this powerful and moving film as a tribute to our POW's."

President Ronald Reagan

Synopsis:

HANOI HILTON (1987)

Genre(s): POW/MIA, Vietnam War

Cast: Michael Moriarty, Paul LeMat, Jeffrey Jones, Lawrence Pressman, Stephen Davies, David Soul, Rick Fitts, Aki Aleong, Gloria Carlin; DIRECTED BY: Lionel Chetwynd; WRITTEN BY: Lionel Chetwynd. PRODUCER: Cannon Films.

Review: A brutal drama about the sufferings of American POWs in Vietnamese prison camps. Non-stop torture, filth, and degradation.

Reviews on Amazon.com website:

Editorial Reviews

Description

A true story about American soldiers interned in North Vietnam during the years 1964 through 1973, and their struggle to survive within the infamous prison complex they dubbed the Hanoi Hilton.

COMMUNISM WAS EVIL, EVIL, EVIL, June 7, 2004
Reviewer: Steven R. Travers (CALIFORNIA) -

One lonely conservative voice has been trying to shout out from the "wilderness" for years. Lionel Chetwynd is a writer/producer who made "The Hanoi Hilton", which actually described the North Vietnamese as the evil torturers they were. The "Hilton" was the moniker given the infamous prison camp where American POW's were kept while Jane Fonda was flirting with our enemies. Liberal film reviewers criticized it. Do not believe them. It is good stuff.

The Hanoi Hilton, January 18, 2004
Reviewer:

I was in the Air Force during the war and have over 100 combat missions. This is the most accurate presentation of the war that is available. It is a story that needed telling and still needs to be told. It describes the situation of the American prisoners in Vietnam in an accurate and truthful manner. Everyone should see it.

The Hanoi Hilton, April 25, 2001
Reviewer:

This movie shows what terrible hardships these prisoners had to endure. I had the privilege to talk to one of the wives of these heroes and she confirmed a lot of events shown in this movie. Also stated that she was not allowed to even mention that her husband was shot down for six-months. Tell her that this movie was "too long and over emotional"!! Most Americans just did not want to face reality during this sad time in our Country's history. I was there during 1966-1968 and in Saigon 1970. --This text refers to the VHS Tape edition

Internet Movie Database
User Comments:

Date: 14 March 2000
Summary: The Libs Hate This One

While this doesn't have the action of 'Rambo' or the surrealism of 'Apocalypse Now', or 'Full Metal Jacket', it does hit dead-on as the most realistic of the Vietnam movies yet.

Most especially, it accurately contrasts the quiet heroism of the POWs with the hypocrisy of the Hollywood Left, and their comrades in the news media; so much in fact, that it is really pretty amazing this film ever got made at all.

Hollywood hates this film.

You can see a typical Hollywood review of this movie, where it is referred to as "Right-wing bullshit." Go to: http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/80saction/hanoihilton.html





33 posted on 09/06/2004 2:48:04 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Petronski

Original idea on how to remind the world tht "Bush didnt release all his records", and also how :Bush was AWOL"...

I think it is a see through ad in bashing Bush and makes the genuine claim of the lackof records of KERRY'S whereabouts during that period, which not one person in the media seems to be covering, just dismissed away with a wave of the hand.


34 posted on 09/06/2004 2:48:28 PM PDT by RaceBannon (KERRY FLED . . . WHILE GOOD MEN BLED!!)
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To: knak

When are we going to boot the swifties of the record? This allegation surpasses even the most addled minds ability to fall far.
Disgusted...


35 posted on 09/06/2004 9:48:10 PM PDT by Mycos
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To: Ludicrous
But it's our world as well.
So if you don't want some cursing to make it's way over the fence, keep your idiot in your own yard.
36 posted on 09/07/2004 9:01:12 AM PDT by Mycos (Mycos)
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