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CBS/ABC/AP/FOXNEWS/CNN/NBC | 9-10-04 | my favorite headache

Posted on 09/10/2004 9:36:33 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache

Then all doubt's should be cleared as of today. FR has done what no free political internet website has ever done before. We have not only broken out into the MSM being credited with finding the fraud in CBS' story on Bush.

But we have our own deep throat's here who blew the whistle in blazing clear daylight.

Typegate is going to sink the Kerry polls 5-10% once people see what his campaign has stooped to. This story is not going away and we will make sure of that.

The DU is biting fingernails left and right knowing they just got busted big time and that they are not as teflon as they thought they once were.

The Clinton years are over....new ballgame in town.

Get used to it.

FR will continue to grow and expand and we will eventually have so much credibility that the media will have no other choice but to report what we are on a daily basis.

Congrats to our folks behind this great discovery.


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1 posted on 09/10/2004 9:36:33 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache

who at FR discovered the discrepancies?


2 posted on 09/10/2004 9:38:08 AM PDT by Veto! (Kerry wears a tutu, TeRAYza wears the pants)
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To: My Favorite Headache

BTW - Where has the Hildabeast been these past days??


3 posted on 09/10/2004 9:38:59 AM PDT by Digger
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To: My Favorite Headache; Buckhead

Good time for a FR fundraiser. I see a LOT of new members after this.

The New York Post mentioned FR broke this.

The ABC's "The Note" mentions freeper Buckhead as questioning the authenticity of the documents before the CBS broadcast was even over!

Freepers rock. Welcome New Media. Old Media is DEAD.


4 posted on 09/10/2004 9:39:05 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Has anyone or a number of people at DU come to the realization yet that the docs are fake? All day yesterday, last night, and so far today all I can find is thread after thread and comment after comment asserting that the docs are real.


5 posted on 09/10/2004 9:39:07 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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6 posted on 09/10/2004 9:39:27 AM PDT by humblegunner (All your font types are belong to US.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Click the Graphic to View All FR 'Bump Lists'.

7 posted on 09/10/2004 9:39:39 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Veto!; Buckhead
Buckhead called it at 8:59 PM.

"60 Minutes," my dyin' a$$! Damn show didn't survive for all 60!

8 posted on 09/10/2004 9:39:40 AM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: Veto!

Howlin


9 posted on 09/10/2004 9:39:46 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: My Favorite Headache

We should start a campaign to have the Press credentials of CBS pulled since they are at best tabloid journalists or political editoralists. The White House should at least pull CBSs press passes; maybe give them the FR


10 posted on 09/10/2004 9:40:06 AM PDT by wvnavyvet
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To: Phantom Lord
Has anyone or a number of people at DU come to the realization yet that the docs are fake? All day yesterday, last night, and so far today all I can find is thread after thread and comment after comment asserting that the docs are real.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt anymore!

11 posted on 09/10/2004 9:40:21 AM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: nutmeg

bttt


12 posted on 09/10/2004 9:40:32 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Rather Lied, Kerry Died.


13 posted on 09/10/2004 9:40:34 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: My Favorite Headache
We have been big time since the late 90s. The MSM knows about us and they are afraid of the potential power that Free Republic represents. We are the anti-MSM. We help spread the gospel of truth to the masses.
14 posted on 09/10/2004 9:40:44 AM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: My Favorite Headache
Keep FR on the Air! Donate Monthly!
15 posted on 09/10/2004 9:41:09 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: My Favorite Headache

High fives all around!


16 posted on 09/10/2004 9:41:14 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'm a happy Republican goon)
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To: Veto!; Buckhead

The first doubts to the memo's authenticity was attributed to Freeper Buckhead. Congratulations Buckhead! You done good.


17 posted on 09/10/2004 9:41:19 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: My Favorite Headache

What the critics fail to recognize is the Freepers come from all different backgrounds and therefore for any topic, at least one Freeper will be an expert in that field and will enlighten the rest of us. Remember the Columbia Space Shuttle tragedy, the media noted that it was Freepers observing the shuttle flying overhead, that first noticed something was wrong 20 minutes before the media broke the story.


18 posted on 09/10/2004 9:41:19 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

if the MSM would do their job, and if there was still competition for stories, then "amateurs" wouldn't be needed. But since that hasn't happened yet, I'm glad we have FR-- a powerful watchdog force.


19 posted on 09/10/2004 9:42:11 AM PDT by RobFromGa (A desperate man is a dangerous man, and Kerry is getting desperate.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Suggestion: Freerepublic could give out an annual symbolic award to the top poster of the year, the one whose original posting promoted the most significant positive change in society.


20 posted on 09/10/2004 9:42:12 AM PDT by geros
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To: My Favorite Headache
FReepers have a knack for hauling the liars out -- kicking and screaming -- into the light of truth. It's a beautiful thing to see.   : )
21 posted on 09/10/2004 9:42:12 AM PDT by Prime Choice (The Log Cabin Republicans AREN'T.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Not typegate. How about selectragate, docgate, forged-gate, Rather-gate, CBS-gate, Media-gate, or something.


22 posted on 09/10/2004 9:42:19 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Phantom Lord

(addressing the DUH group in my best Spock voice) ....the documents....are not real......the documents.....are not real.....


23 posted on 09/10/2004 9:42:43 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'm a happy Republican goon)
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To: CollegeRepublican

MSM is afraid of this site and all the others which get the truth out. They are not the big dogs any more. Thanks to everyone on this site who discovered this lie. You are the greatest.


24 posted on 09/10/2004 9:43:01 AM PDT by MamaB (mom to an angel)
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To: My Favorite Headache

CSI-Free Republic...


25 posted on 09/10/2004 9:44:02 AM PDT by mystery-ak (This President, This Time......Ron Silver)
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To: All

I've been snooping in the lib blogs and they are looking at this two ways:

1. There WERE typewriters that could produce those fake documents around in the early 70's

2. IF it is a fake it must be Carl Roves doing.

So on one hand this document is 100% authentic, yet on the other hand it was Carl Roves doing. Looks like they got the Kerry doctrine down just right over on the left.


26 posted on 09/10/2004 9:44:14 AM PDT by Illinois Rep
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To: MamaB

Oh I don't think there is a single newspaper editor or TV news editor that doesn't lurk on FR on a daily basis.


27 posted on 09/10/2004 9:44:22 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Makes ya proud to be a Freeper.


28 posted on 09/10/2004 9:44:48 AM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (Another military family for Bush)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Sending my donation to Free Republic today! You guys/gals are great! Congrats!


29 posted on 09/10/2004 9:46:10 AM PDT by penelopesire
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To: nutmeg

WOW Great work guys and gals!!
Couple of stooopid questions from a long time lurker:

Waht does bttt mean, and what is the difference between a "ping" and a "bump"

keep up the great work, and I promose to become more involved!!


30 posted on 09/10/2004 9:46:17 AM PDT by Airwinger01
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; StriperSniper; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; ..
RAthERGATE

Has my vote.

31 posted on 09/10/2004 9:46:28 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Phantom Lord; Veto!; Poohbah
There is so much information OUT THERE, I decided to put up the OFFICIAL version, rather than let bloggers misconstrue what actually happened.

This is the OFFICIAL timeline:

I put this thread up for the 60 Minutes show.

Live Thread: Ben Barnes and CBS Attempt Another Bush Smear (60 Minutes) at 7:39:18 PM EDT.


At 8:19:00 PM EDT TankerKC posted this:

To: Howlin
WE NEED TO SEE THOSE MEMOS AGAIN!

They are not in the style that we used when I came in to the USAF. They looked like the style and format we started using about 12 years ago (1992). Our signature blocks were left justified, now they are rigth of center...like the ones they just showed.

Can we get a copy of those memos?

107 posted on 09/08/2004 8:19:00 PM EDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: Howlin
Every damned "witness" is now dead. I want to see an analysis of those new papers. They are all type written so it should be possible to see if it was written on a Government Issue typewriter of that era. This stinks like week old fish.
131 posted on 09/08/2004 8:24:06 PM EDT by Texasforever (Kerry's new slogan "IT'S NOT THE STUPID CANDIDATE SO STOP SAYING THAT")
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To: cyncooper; TomGuy; hole_n_one

Can some of you guys in the later time zones WATCH this interview and get a GOOD LOOK at those docuemtns.....how they were typed, where the signature was.....that kind of thing?

A screen grab would be great!

Who else does screen captures?

197 posted on 09/08/2004 8:44:13 PM EDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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That thread continued along for a bit with people commenting on the documents and the show.


Then CBS put the documents up on their web site:


To: TC Rider; Mo1; All; cyncooper

HERE THEY ARE:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/08/60II/main641984.shtml

Scroll down on the left!!!!!!

363 posted on 09/08/2004 10:38:38 PM EDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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Then Pikamax put up this thread:

Documents Suggest Special Treatment for Bush in Guard


To which Buckhead posted the shot heard round the world:


To: Howlin

Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman.

In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts.

The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used monospaced fonts.

I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old.

This should be pursued aggressively.

47 posted on 09/08/2004 11:59:43 PM EDT by Buckhead
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After all the questions that arose from everybody on the forum, I put this thread up:


THE "New" CBS BUSH DOCUMENTS: Let's do some investigating


As Buckhead said on another thread, many, many Freepers were involved.

32 posted on 09/10/2004 9:46:35 AM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Phantom Lord; Poohbah
Has anyone or a number of people at DU come to the realization yet that the docs are fake?

In a backhanded admission that the docs are phony, they're trying to blame it as a dirty-tricks plant by Carl Rove!

33 posted on 09/10/2004 9:46:50 AM PDT by ErnBatavia ("Dork"; a 60's term for a 60's kinda guy: JFK)
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To: Veto!
who at FR discovered the discrepancies?

Here ya go!

Post # 47 To: Howlin

Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman.

In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts.

The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used monospaced fonts.

I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old.

This should be pursued aggressively.

47 posted on 09/08/2004 8:59:43 PM PDT by Buckhead

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34 posted on 09/10/2004 9:47:34 AM PDT by humblegunner (All your font types are belong to US.)
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To: Phantom Lord

I believe many are saying that the "evil genius" Karl Rove is behind it. And of course, by extension, President Bush and John Ashcroft.


35 posted on 09/10/2004 9:47:42 AM PDT by KJacob (God's purpose is never the same as man's purpose.)
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To: All

STOLEN HONOR

A documentary exposing John Kerry's record of betrayal


36 posted on 09/10/2004 9:48:07 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative ..... Sign up today!)
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To: mystery-ak

LOL...just wanted to stand at my desk here in the heart of Texas with my hand over my heart and say I'm proud to be a long time Freeper

May God Bless America and may God Bless Free Republic


37 posted on 09/10/2004 9:48:19 AM PDT by PaulaB (From Kerry they get a yes-no-maybe bowl of mush that can only encourage enemies and confuse friends)
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To: Phantom Lord
Has anyone or a number of people at DU come to the realization yet that the docs are fake? All day yesterday, last night, and so far today all I can find is thread after thread and comment after comment asserting that the docs are real

PJ-Comix had a reply from DU, where the poster basically said about Killian's wife saying that her now deceased husband wouldn't type those memos, how well does a wife know her husband.

They're going even more loony toons.

38 posted on 09/10/2004 9:48:24 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: My Favorite Headache

It was also a freeper who exposed Capitol Hill Blue for their made-up "source." I still have the threads bookmarked.


39 posted on 09/10/2004 9:48:26 AM PDT by axel f
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To: MamaB

I'm new to this. In fact I just signed up today. This is a world I didn't know about! Amazing. Things are on TV and within seconds there are posts on here to let me know I'm not alone!!


40 posted on 09/10/2004 9:50:06 AM PDT by queenkathy
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To: My Favorite Headache

Maybe this will do for FR what Watergate did for the Washington Post, put it on the map big time.

Rathergate does have a nice ring to it...


41 posted on 09/10/2004 9:50:21 AM PDT by Ex-Dem (Never bend to terrorism.)
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To: axel f; dead
It was also a freeper who exposed Capitol Hill Blue for their made-up "source." I still have the threads bookmarked.

Yes, I believe that was 'dead'.

42 posted on 09/10/2004 9:51:04 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Burger-Eating War Monkey)
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To: Howlin
the shot heard round the world

By the rude bridge that arched the flood,
Their Flag to April's breeze unfurled,
Here the embattled farmers stood
And fired the Shot heard 'round the World.

-- Ralph Waldo Emerson




43 posted on 09/10/2004 9:51:52 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko (Oh, and Dick Cheney too.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Never a doubt! FR rules!


44 posted on 09/10/2004 9:51:56 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: My Favorite Headache

QUICK!

Call for a supplementary fund drive. I'll kick in a hundred bucks.


45 posted on 09/10/2004 9:52:14 AM PDT by mercy
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To: Little Pig

I love it!!!


46 posted on 09/10/2004 9:52:34 AM PDT by woofer2425 (Kerry LIED)
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To: Ex-Dem
Rathergate does have a nice ring to it...

Oh yes it does! BTTT.

47 posted on 09/10/2004 9:52:44 AM PDT by Constitution Day (What did Rather know and when did he know it?)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
"Not typegate. How about selectragate, docgate, forged-gate, Rather-gate, CBS-gate, Media-gate, or something."

One moniker has already stuck, We now know that Buckhead is the infamous:

DEEP FONT

48 posted on 09/10/2004 9:52:44 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: OXENinFLA

Like the the super script, Tony! Good job! FReep mail me the HTML for that!


49 posted on 09/10/2004 9:53:31 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: queenkathy

Welcome to FR .. you'll love the Live Threads

Freepers ROCK!


50 posted on 09/10/2004 9:54:02 AM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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