That's *such* propaganda! You can't get Barnes to shut up, nor Burkett for that matter!
1 Full Legislative Day Left Until The AWB Expires
Posted on 09/12/2004 12:26:09 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
Sept. 20 issue - The rap on Mary Beth Cahill, ... is the wrong person to guide the fortunes of Sen. John Kerry during this hypernasty political season. Maybe so, but hers was among the first congratulatory calls Ben Barnes received ....
.....Where did the documents come from? CBS won't say. But the trail pieced together by NEWSWEEK shows that in a sulfurous season like this one, the difference between obscurity and power is small, and anyone can get a hearing. A principal source for CBS's story was Bill Burkett, a disgruntled former Guard officer who lives in Baird, Texas, who says he was present at Guard headquarters in Austin in 1997, when a top aide to the then Governor Bush ordered records sanitized to protect the Boss. Other Guard officials disputed Burkett's account, and the Bush aide involved, Joe Allbaugh, called it "absolute garbage." Burkett may have a motive to make trouble for the powers that be. In 1998, he grew gravely ill on a Guard mission to Panama, causing him to be hospitalized, and he suffered two nervous breakdowns. He unsuccessfully sued for medical expenses.
Still, in theory, Burkett may have had access to any Guard records that, in a friend's words, "didn't make it to the shredder." Fellow officers say he wasn't a crank, but rather a stickler for proper procedure—a classic whistle-blower type. Burkett was impressive enough to cause CBS producer Mary Mapes to fly to Texas to interview him. "There are only a couple of guys I would trust to be as perfectly honest and upfront as Bill," says Dennis Adams, a former Guard colleague. The White House, through Communications Director Dan Bartlett, called Burkett a "discredited source." Indeed, Bush strategists are convinced—or have convinced themselves—that the issue will backfire on its purveyors...
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...
Groan!...I wonder if he has a word processor?
As I understand it, EVERYONE in the Air National Guard has one.
"I've sat in total grief for the past three years, watching the institutions of America being spent as if they were lottery winnings.
...
As I said, a UN vote would not stop GW Bush from attacking Iraq. Nor will anything else. And weapons of mass destruction will be discovered in great quantities; but the entire affair will stink to high heavens because it will be as staged as the White House press conference you just viewed.
The human death toll will publicly not be mentioned, yet in truth, it will far exceed 120,000. Our vast size and force will quickly break the back of any Iraqi resistance, yet we will not break their spirit. This is a society which has learned to live in troubled politics. They will go about their business while seething inside. There will be small uprisings, but they will quickly be crushed. The emotion and anger that we will have built will spill over into other countries and meld like an alloy with other problem areas of the Middle East, becoming a deeper seated problem. We will have insured that America's dynasty is nearing an end.
While GW Bush will be cast as a conquering hero by his political team and accepted by the population as such, history will treat him as Napoleonic. Bush will reach a new lofty level of acceptance by first fear and then staged triumph. Those who waited too long to gain their voice will lose their voice again.
America will over pledge economically in order to establish this new footprint; but the economic worth will not go to offset our fiscal investment, or to the Iraqi people. Iraq will be stripped by the vanquishers; the major corporations, who will then control not only the assets, but the cash flow. Their names will be Mobil, Exxon, Halliburton and the likes." - Bill Burkett
That's right. They've been using Micorsoft Word since 1972 or before.
They have a lot of chips riding on this.
Bill Burkett??
Not only is he a yellow dog dem .. he's a nut case who's be after Bush for some time
...And in 73 as well.
A military genius who changed the entire course of history?
got a source for that burkett quote, which is dynamite as far as motive goes?
Interesting, too, to contarst the obvious venom in that quote with Newsweek's description of him as a straight-arrow whistleblower type.
I can't believe they went with this guy!
I wonder if this wasn't what Susan Estrich was talking about in that horrid column she did last week.
Texas.
Ben Barnes.
Bill Burkett.
Bill Moyers.
Paul Begala.
John Moore.
Dan Rather's daughter.
Dan Rather.
And plenty more where that comes from.
Not very exciting if it is him. Unless, of course, they can trace him having recent meetings with Kerry or McCauliffe associates. Now that would be exciting!
c#2
Their #1 export isn't necessarily their #1 crop.
sorry, it's late. I'm excited and shouldn't have that last drink.
Take a look at this site. I was trying to find
the provenance of AFM 35-13 using google, and found the
sites below.
They are lefty sites, which refer to the documents
MONTHS ago, and in one case, YEARS ago...
August 2004:
http://www.talkaboutinvestments.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/messages/880901.html
April 2004:
http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/archives/2004/04/21/who-da-man/
Feb. 2004:
http://billhobbs.com/hobbsonline/003279.html
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/mt/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=3261
Which has this text:
Chris,
Yeah, this aspect of the story may die. But the media has a sense right now that there's stuff in the records that Bush doesn't want people to see, and they'll continue to follow that thread.
This document got posted over at Atrios's site, and it has a couple of interesting things. First of all, there was another guy (James Bath) who got suspended the month after Bush for refusing to take his physical. He's been linked to Bush before, but what interested me was this bit:
"Off[icer] will comply with para 2-1, AFM 35-13. Authority: Para 2-29m, AFM 35-13."
Anyone know what this means? I assume it has something to do with the regulations they violated, but googling on the reference (and I also tried assuming that it means Air Force Manual) turned up nothing.
The words This Document are hypertext.
The words linked to Bush are hypertext, and lead to
this site:
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R-091901/hatfield-r-091901.html
which contains the text:
Like his father before him, Dubya founded his oil business with the financial backing of investors, including James R. Bath, a Houston businessman whom Dubya apparently first met when they were in the same Texas Air National Guard unit. (Interestingly, both Dubya and Bath were both suspended from flying in August and September 1972, respectively, for "failure to accomplish annual medical examination.")
This is PRE Kerry, PRE election, even PRE 9-11-2001
smearing of Bush...
Could this be why Rather is saying the facts are genuine?
(Can't vouch for the authenticity of the allegations
about Bath. But they sure would make tempting material
for Rather to chance typing up a 'contemporary copy'.
Any thoughts?
Also, any way to save these sites so they don't disappear
down the memory hole?
This is a death match between the Dems in Texas and W.
That's *such* propaganda! You can't get Barnes to shut up, nor Burkett for that matter!
1 Full Legislative Day Left Until The AWB Expires
Damn, reading his rants, this guy Burkett has some major emotional problems.
It all makes sense now. The clown is still trying to prove his 1997 story ans CBS fell for it. What dupes.
Or is it just convinent to dump it on him ??
He is Not the kind of source I would want a lot riding on.
Nice catch...
And obviously composed on the barking-moonbat wing of the DNC. Amazing.
I think these all refer to the documents that were around before the last election.
The IBM Selectric Composer (Rather's theory thoroughly debunked)
Bath was mentioned along with Bush in one of the USA
Today memos that were posted at their site...interesting...
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-09-09bushdocs.pdf
Here's the URL for the Open Society Institute:
http://www.soros.org/
Doubts raised on Bush accuser
Key witness disputes charge by Guard retiree that files were purged
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/02/13/doubts_raised_on_bush_accuser/
That must be part of the bigger death match between dems everywhere and civilization.
They're not going to be able to pawn this off on Burkett. There is a criminal conspiracy here to influence a federal election. Their is a cancer on the Democratic Party!
Stooge. Mule. Throwdown. Anyway, the Newspeak article actually gives credence to the Rather hoax. "Oh everybody's throwing mud. The documents 'might' not be real. No bounce for Bush." And blah blah blah.
So, if he was the only source you had, you wouldn't name him either? lol
He could not have been the source of the memos. These were Killian's personal memos and would have been in his personal possession, not filed with official records in the office. But his family says he didn't keep personal files. No matter to CBS and Dan Rather. No matter that it doesn't make any sense for a man to indict himself of unethical behavior in a memo to himself - and keep it for 30+ years. I would love to know where CBS got these. Maybe we'll find out this week.
several roads lead to Rome(Burkett)...retired officer, Bath, Bush , access...I smell smoke .....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12809-2004Sep10.html
.....Before airing Wednesday's segment, he said, CBS "vetted" the confidential source who provided the memos and concluded that "he did have the ability to get access to these documents and he was being truthful." Beyond that, Rather said, CBS consulted with military experts about Killian's language and the documents' format and compared them to other Bush service records previously released by the White House. "We decided there was a preponderance of evidence that they are what they purport to be," he said.....
The fact that Indymedia was created and financed by wealthy individuals such as Soros, Glaser, and Merkle is emblematic of the Vanguardism of Lenin.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=11005
I don't see that CBS has ANY interest in revealing their source, especially if it is one like this. If they dump on him, they dump on themselves. His medical problems and long history as a dogged Bush basher are well known.
well, Open Society Institute is George Soros.
If he was in the Guard in that time period (68-73)IF, then he should have known the format...hmmm when was he in the guard if he came later after format changed, then...maybe he would not know the ealier format...
Not sure, I'm a newbie.
BUT...I was trying to establish that the
documents referring to AFM 35-13 have been
around for awhile.
The last website I gave predates 9-11-2001 and
refers to the AMF35-13 and the physical.
My question is: was someone ELSE discharged for
not taking a physical, and they tried a clumsy
forgery to put Bush's name in those documents;
when that didn't work they typed it up on MS Word?
Like I said .. I can't remember why I saved those google searches in my Burkett folder ..
Maybe Shermy can help tell if there is a connection the the two
Yes- he had once been treated for grain-shock. It's similar to shell-shock, only grain-shock results from having a cache of rice explode in close proximity to an ass. It's been known to incapacitate the ass for at least forty minutes and make it a clingy, dependent pathological liar for life.
This article seems to attempt three primary functions:
1) lend some nominal credibility to the fraudulent memos (suggestion that these could possibly be files that survived a mythological "cleansing").
2) revive the already discredited sotry of said mythological cleansing (if for no other reason than to further muddy the water).
3) most importantly, to throw off the scent from the bowels of the Democrat party (so if all else fails, it looks like the work of some kook working independently from the DNC).
I'm not buying it.
Anybody who has a bone to pick with the Bush family is a candidate for the dems to use to further their agenda. We know how this works.
I'd have to agree.
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