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Americans in danger are vulnerable to dictatorship (Barf Alert)
St. Petersburg Times (Pravda West) ^ | September 12, 2004 | MARTIN DYCKMAN

Posted on 09/12/2004 4:15:16 PM PDT by Popman

TALLAHASSEE - A thousand dead in Iraq. For what? History's highest budget deficit. For what? George W. Bush has been so reckless with America's lives, wealth and reputation and so stupendously incompetent and untrustworthy overall as to defy belief that anyone but Halliburton and the House of Saud would want him to be elected.

And yet, if the polls are accurate, Bush is leading. Dismal as that news may be, what's more to be feared is the reason. Though they see through him in nearly every other respect, many people are convinced of his leadership, his courage, his sense of resolve.

This triumph for the art of propaganda - all we really know about his courage, after all, is how little of it he displayed during Vietnam - signifies mortal danger for American democracy.

The "man on horseback" mentality, the belief that a leader's strength is more important than where it leads them, defines a population that is vulnerable to dictatorship.

This is not to call Bush a dictator or suggest that he wants to be one. But let no one believe that it couldn't happen here, as has happened so often elsewhere.

It has happened here, and by the design of better statesmen than Bush.

John Adams, an original American patriot, signed the Alien and Sedition Acts that put people in prison for what they said or wrote.

Abraham Lincoln, one of our three greatest presidents, suspended the writ of habeas corpus.

Woodrow Wilson, a scholar by profession, jailed and deported people for opposing a war that, nearly a century later, still raises the question of what American interests compelled our participation.

Franklin D. Roosevelt put 110,000 men, women and children in concentration camps because of their race.

In each instance, danger was the pretext for suspending democracy and decency.

Dictatorship has struck even in the absence of danger. Right here, in Florida.

In December 2000, the Florida House of Representatives, in broad daylight, voted 79 to 41 to steal the 2000 presidential election by formally appointing the Republican slate of electors regardless of what a recount might show. Though presumptively legal under the Constitution, that was a dictatorial act in light of the modern expectation that the people, not the politicians, elect the president.

Florida rewarded the perpetrators by sending Tom Feeney to Congress and re-electing nearly everyone who followed his orders. If that disgraceful vote ever became even an issue in any of their campaigns, I am unaware of it.

The Senate did not follow suit, but only because of President John McKay's shrewd strategy of waiting to see what the Supreme Court would do. Nonetheless, a precedent was set for use in the next state where one party controls both houses and opportunity knocks.

Meanwhile, it is becoming clear that the great falsehoods of this administration were not limited to the phantom weapons of mass destruction, the fanciful link between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida, and (most recently) the phony Medicare drug benefit cost figures that were deliberately fed to the Congress.

To that list must be added the deception that the Republicans wanted Howard Dean for their opponent. The Washington punditry corps regurgitated that as fact and helped give the Republicans exactly what they did want: a senator (actually, two senators) on the opposition ticket.

It didn't matter who. Sitting members of Congress are sitting ducks because they come with the fresh baggage of complicated voting records that are easy to misconstrue and misrepresent.

The Homeland Security Act, for example, contained a poison pill for Democrats: Its labor-bashing component set up Max Cleland, a triple amputee Vietnam War hero, to be smeared as unpatriotic. If there is such a place as hell, surely it awaits the liars who did that.

In the entire history of the United States, there have been only four presidents who went straight from the Congress to the White House. The last of them - and the only Democrat - was John F. Kennedy, 44 years ago.

Former members of Congress have fared much better, but in recent years only by way of the vice presidency.

The Democrats should have learned by now. Of the six Democratic presidents directly elected since the Civil War, all but one (JFK) were governors: Grover Cleveland, Wilson, Roosevelt, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. (Michael Dukakis would have won too had he managed to show anger, or any other passion, at appropriate moments.) Truman and Lyndon Johnson would not have made the White House but for the vice presidency.

Governors, or former governors, have played well for the GOP too: e.g., Ronald Reagan, George Bush. A governor's record is rarely as complex as that of a member of Congress, and the job title itself conveys a sense of competence and authority.

Even if, as we see now, the competence is only an illusion.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: me; napalminthemorning

1 posted on 09/12/2004 4:15:17 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Popman

If our leaders are dictators, wouldn't Mr. Dyckman's article land him in prison?


2 posted on 09/12/2004 4:16:50 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: Popman

Has anyone else noticed that the leftwing nutcases seem to have more access to the media than normal people?


3 posted on 09/12/2004 4:18:35 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Numbers Guy

Yeah . . . he sets up an (almost) interesting premise and then fails to deliver.


4 posted on 09/12/2004 4:19:30 PM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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To: Popman

This jackanapes consistently cites his own opinions as though they were facts. More evidence of lefty "intellect."


5 posted on 09/12/2004 4:20:28 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (This message prepared with MS-CBS Word 72 software)
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To: Popman
Michael Dukakis would have won too had he managed to show anger, or any other passion, at appropriate moments.

Hahahahahahah.

Who called Max Cleland unpatriotic? It seems only the Democrats affix this label to former Georgia Senator Max Cleland. Why are Democrats questioning Max Cleland's patriotism?

6 posted on 09/12/2004 4:21:09 PM PDT by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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To: Numbers Guy
If our leaders are dictators, wouldn't Mr. Dyckman's article land him in prison?

...because people who write nonsense like this are normally confined to a mental ward or admitted to the emergency room for swallowing copious amounts of dry kool-aid

7 posted on 09/12/2004 4:21:26 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Popman

Someone needs to change Dykman's diaper. Perhaps Al Gore is available.


8 posted on 09/12/2004 4:23:41 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: xrp
Michael Dukakis would have won too...

When I read this article at lunch today, I scared the crap out of a nice lady sitting in the next table because I laughed out so loud.

9 posted on 09/12/2004 4:24:33 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Popman

Don't worry kerry will lose and give us 4 more years of grace ... after that ...


10 posted on 09/12/2004 4:24:44 PM PDT by clamper1797 (This Vietnam Vet is NOT Fonda kerry)
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To: Popman

BUMP


11 posted on 09/12/2004 4:24:51 PM PDT by ConservativeVoice
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To: atomic conspiracy

This is more, "Bush is a moron....why do the people laugh
when he out smarts us" bunk.


12 posted on 09/12/2004 4:24:59 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Popman

This guy's last name is all that needs to be said....what a Dyck!! :)


13 posted on 09/12/2004 4:26:50 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Free Republic - Only as "free" as those that post on it want it to be!!!)
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To: Numbers Guy

I thought it was Dyckhead and the above was a typo.


14 posted on 09/12/2004 4:27:00 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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To: Popman

A "Barf Alert"? For this? For THIS??? This is one of the funniest items I have ever read! This piece is absolutely hilarious! Perhaps we need a "Split Your Sides Open in Laughter" alert...I know I can't stop the laughter!


15 posted on 09/12/2004 4:27:30 PM PDT by LRS
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To: Popman
Even if, as we see now, the competence is only an illusion.

It would be nice if he accused Bush of this gross incompetence with a little bit of actual facts besides "just because I said so"

16 posted on 09/12/2004 4:28:34 PM PDT by Popman
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To: LRS

...and this guy is an editor at the pager to boot....


17 posted on 09/12/2004 4:29:34 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Popman
"In December 2000, the Florida House of Representatives, in broad daylight, voted 79 to 41 to steal the 2000 presidential election"

Are they still recounting down there, or was this article written 3.5 years ago? Hard to think that this was the guys first argument in Florida. Sorta like, "Did you know that John Kerry was in Vietnam?"
18 posted on 09/12/2004 4:29:53 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Ask Questions. Surf The Net. Find The Truth.)
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To: Popman

I see another tin foil hat has come loose from Mr. Dyckman's noggin. Poor dear.


19 posted on 09/12/2004 4:30:38 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Popman

The quickest way to a dictatorship is when the politicians declare that the rules they pass for us to obey don't apply to our elected leaders. When politicians believe that they and their continued hold on power are more important than showing even a basic respect for the truth the rule of law and legal system. When current laws are ignored or changed after the fact. Look at Clinton deciding that he was too important to bother telling the truth. Al Gore getting the Florida courts to throw out the election law and creating new rules that would assist Gore in changing the election results.


20 posted on 09/12/2004 4:30:44 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Numbers Guy
Re: "Americans in danger are vulnerable to dictatorship (Barf Alert)"

Look how close Adolf Gore came to stealing the election. There maybe a point there.

21 posted on 09/12/2004 4:31:18 PM PDT by correctthought (Hippies, want to change the world, but all they ever do is smoke pot and smell bad)
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To: Popman
...and this guy is an editor at the pager to boot....

Now that fact qualifies as a big time "BARF"!

22 posted on 09/12/2004 4:31:53 PM PDT by LRS
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To: xrp
Who called Max Cleland unpatriotic?

Yeah, I'm also getting a little tired of this one. Cleland wasn't called unpatriotic by anybody, ever. He's just a sore loser who made up a goofy story to explain why he couldn't keep his seat. He was elected because he was a war hero; he was defeated because he was a crummy senator.

23 posted on 09/12/2004 4:31:56 PM PDT by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: Fzob

bump


24 posted on 09/12/2004 4:32:00 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Popman
"A governor's record is rarely as complex as that of a member of Congress,..."

So Cynthia Mckinney had a more complicated job as congresswoman from Georgia than Jimmy Carter had as governor of Georgia. (Sorry, he DID run a state for a few years, after all.) I don't know what this guy is smoking but it can't be legal.

25 posted on 09/12/2004 4:32:59 PM PDT by groanup (Our kids sleep soundly because soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines stand ready to die for us.)
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To: Popman

DYCKMAN is it? I am a legman myself.


26 posted on 09/12/2004 4:34:10 PM PDT by Max Combined
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To: groanup
I don't know what this guy is smoking but it can't be legal.

He's smoking rolled up grape Kool-Aid.

I guess it's legal?

27 posted on 09/12/2004 4:35:44 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Popman
Somehow I find his name appropriate: Dyck-man.
28 posted on 09/12/2004 4:36:03 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Popman

Martin Dyckman must be one of pat buchanan's drinking buddies...they seem to swill the same brand.


29 posted on 09/12/2004 4:43:09 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Popman

Our family continues to boycott the Communist Times and this is a perfect example why. As newspapers across the country wonder why their readership continues to decline, we'll just get our news from the Internet.


30 posted on 09/12/2004 5:01:52 PM PDT by nicolezmomma
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To: Popman
Though presumptively legal under the Constitution, that was a dictatorial act in light of the modern expectation that the people, not the politicians, elect the president.

Obviously Mr. Dykeman doesn't approve of elected representives acting like dictators. He only approves of dictators in black robes.

31 posted on 09/12/2004 5:06:55 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Popman

DYCKMAN You are an Idiot deal with it.


32 posted on 09/12/2004 5:10:41 PM PDT by Fast1
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To: Popman
What a DICK...Man!

Mike

33 posted on 09/12/2004 5:16:58 PM PDT by MichaelP
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To: Popman

>>Its labor-bashing component set up Max Cleland, a triple amputee Vietnam War hero, to be smeared as unpatriotic.<<

The whole purpose of the Homeland security act was to set Max Cleland up?

Is this guy really as stupid as this statement and "article" suggests?


34 posted on 09/12/2004 5:22:04 PM PDT by 1L
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To: Brilliant
Has anyone else noticed that the leftwing nutcases seem to have more access to the media than normal people?

"Affirmative action" is the single hiring factor in most of the dying Old Media.
35 posted on 09/12/2004 5:25:09 PM PDT by Bars4Bill (Kerry gave aid and comfort to the enemy.)
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To: Popman

C'mon. Fess up. You dipped this from the indymedia sewer, right?

I'm amazed at just how much that's been posted lately from the MSM reads like adolescent garbage from the imc's.


36 posted on 09/12/2004 5:43:57 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population - have them spayed or neutered.)
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To: Popman

Thanks for the bump. You gotta wonder how these guys manage to avoid not getting caught while on the DNC payrole.


I'm betting Ivan is heading right to your doorstep.


37 posted on 09/12/2004 5:48:08 PM PDT by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: Popman

These people are nuts.


38 posted on 09/12/2004 5:52:08 PM PDT by Khurkris (Proud Scottish/HillBilly - We perfected "The Art of the Grudge")
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To: Fzob
I'm betting Ivan is heading right to your doorstep.

At 150 MPH, there won't be a doorstep left!!!

39 posted on 09/12/2004 6:07:25 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Popman
Mr dyckmans email -

dyckman@sptimes.com

40 posted on 09/12/2004 6:07:37 PM PDT by Khurkris (Proud Scottish/HillBilly - We perfected "The Art of the Grudge")
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To: Numbers Guy
If our leaders are dictators, wouldn't Mr. Dyckman's article land him in prison?

Yes!! Absolutely!! Off with his head!!

(Oops. Sorry. Thirty years too early)

41 posted on 09/12/2004 6:22:51 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Not Fonda Kerry in '04 // Vets Against Kerry)
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To: Popman
Though presumptively legal under the Constitution, that was a dictatorial act in light of the modern expectation that the people, not the politicians, elect the president.

Though presumptively legal under the first amendment to the Constitution, Martin Dyckman's article is a piece of incoherent trash in light of the modern expectation that commentators exhibit even a modest shred of honesty and truthfulness in their writings.

42 posted on 09/12/2004 6:50:01 PM PDT by Zeppo
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To: Popman
The Washington punditry corps regurgitated that as fact and helped give the Republicans exactly what they did want: a senator (actually, two senators) on the opposition ticket.

This so funny...the Democrats who voted for them are absolved of responbility for who they nominated and somehow became puppets of the Republican party.

43 posted on 09/12/2004 7:02:12 PM PDT by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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To: Popman
A few problems. Roosevelt didn't put anyone away in a camp because of their RACE - but a Dem would insinuate that. The interned were Japanese mainly but also some Germans and Italians.

As far as the vote of the Republicans in Florida, they didn't do anything that the Dems wouldn't have done themselves. Indeed the Dems attempted to steal the election by counting selective Democratic areas, and running their padded votes idea thru the Dem controlled Florida Supreme Ct.

Personally, I am afraid of a possible Dictatorship. It was close when it looked like Gore wasn't going to leave he White House... and the stock market began its fall, as I recall. The way the Dems are ignoring facts, distorting facts, hate BUSH and rant and rave uncontrollably, they might go for a dictatorship, if they had a chance. The dying political screams of the socialist left in the Dem party worries me. Geez, had a terrible thought - what if the lefties regroup in the GOP and steal it as they did the Dem party.
44 posted on 09/12/2004 7:14:24 PM PDT by Henchman (Demand an inquiry by the media into Kerry's dealing with the VC in PARIS!)
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To: garbanzo
To that list must be added the deception that the Republicans wanted Howard Dean for their opponent

To your point: Obviously, if the GOP is cunning enough to deceive everybody and pull a bait and switch with Dean and Kerry, you would think they are cunning enough to pull off a dictatorship without anybody knowing it!!!

45 posted on 09/13/2004 3:10:54 AM PDT by Popman
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