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Schwarzenegger Bans Rifle in Support of Gun Control
Reuters ^ | 9/14/04

Posted on 09/14/2004 1:38:35 PM PDT by TexKat

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Breaking with Republican lawmakers who oppose gun control and a Hollywood film career filled with gun play, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed a bill banning .50-caliber BMG rifles, an aide said on Tuesday.

The large-caliber, high-powered rifle is used by the military and police to shoot at long-range targets, including ones more than a mile away.

Civilian owners of the weapon typically use the rifle at firing-ranges and for big-game hunting, but with armor-piercing ammunition the rifle can penetrate concrete shelters and lightly armored vehicles.

Critics of the rifle argue there is no reasonable civilian use for the weapon. They say it could be used by terrorists to shoot at oil refineries and airplanes, or by snipers against people. Gun rights advocates maintain the weapon has not been used in a crime in California.

Despite his gun-toting film career, Schwarzenegger is in favor of some gun controls, including the 10-year federal ban that expired on Monday on certain semiautomatic firearms known as "assault weapons," said his spokeswoman Terri Carbaugh.

"He's committed to keeping the public and law enforcement as safe as possible," said Carbaugh. "This lines up with his philosophy that reasonable gun control measures are necessary to accomplish that objective."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bang

Breaking with Republican lawmakers who oppose gun control and a Hollywood film career filled with gun play, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed a bill banning .50-caliber BMG rifles, an aide said September 14, 2004. Schwarzenegger speaks during the second night of the 2004 Republican National Convention at Madison Square Garden in New York City, August 31, 2004. (Mike Segar/Reuters)

1 posted on 09/14/2004 1:38:35 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat

This is coming to a state near you! Time to save for that Barrett...


2 posted on 09/14/2004 1:41:06 PM PDT by ajwharton
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To: TexKat
"He's committed to keeping the public and law enforcement as safe as possible,"

If you want a safe job...DON'T BE A POLICE OFFICER!!!

Besides, how many crimes have been committed with a $4,000 .50 Caliber rifle...EVER?

3 posted on 09/14/2004 1:41:18 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: TexKat

ok where are all the people that are going to call Arnold a RINO and a turncoat and those that will say they are going to the Constitutionalist party and then ask "Who's with me?"

Come on, I know you are out there....


4 posted on 09/14/2004 1:41:23 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Free Republic - Only as "free" as those that post on it want it to be!!!)
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To: TexKat
Gun rights advocates maintain the weapon has not been used in a crime in California.

Has one ever been used in any crime anywhere in the US?

My bet is NO.

Shame on Arnold.

5 posted on 09/14/2004 1:42:54 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: TexKat

Well, that settles it.

I must now purchase one of these...


6 posted on 09/14/2004 1:43:37 PM PDT by sargon (How could anyone vote for the socialist, weak-on-defense fraud named John Kerry?)
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To: TexKat
"He's committed to keeping the public and law enforcement as safe as possible..."

U.S. Department of Labor
Occupational Fatalities per 100,000
Year 1999
Commercial Fishermen
162
Timber Cutters
154
Air Pilots
65
Construction Laborers
37
Garbage Collectors
34
Truck Drivers
28
Electricians
12
Gardeners (non farm)
11
Police
11
Carpenters
7

7 posted on 09/14/2004 1:47:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yep, this is the problem with Arnold. To much of a Rino. However the other choice of Red Davis was much worse.


8 posted on 09/14/2004 1:51:01 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: TexKat

I'm in the SF bay area. There is nothing in this world that the government can do to make me want a .50-cal Barrett more, than telling me I can't have one.


9 posted on 09/14/2004 1:52:55 PM PDT by Tredge
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To: TexKat

big-game hunting? No Civilian Use?

Let's not mention the fact that the .50 BMG rifle (not the Ma Deuce) was developed BY CIVILIANS for long distance match shooting. Only after Civilians adapted the cartridge did the military and cops take notice.


10 posted on 09/14/2004 1:55:08 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I saw a TV show on one of the cable channels a few years ago, and was shocked to learn that one of the most dangerous jobs in the world is a commercial fisherman. In particular, they followed some deep water crabbers, and it's not unusual to lose crewmen when they get hit by the huge traps or get tangled in lines.

Lost fingers and limbs are quite common.

Yikes!

Mark


11 posted on 09/14/2004 1:58:59 PM PDT by MarkL (Dude!!! You're farting fire!!!!)
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To: TexKat
Arnie has his gun collection...yours is a threat to him and 'his' kind

A Governor who does not trust his honest citizens with the weapons 'they' need to protect themselves and their families..

Whose family is protected by private 'armed' security 24-7

Your family doesn't mean doodley squat to politicians...all of the left and many on the right including the big daddy rabbit in DC..when it comes to your God given right to protect your life and the lives of your loved ones...

one if by land
two if by sea
three if when they come
by Washington DC

imo

12 posted on 09/14/2004 2:01:52 PM PDT by joesnuffy ( "Two Heads Are Better Than One"...."Unless They're On The Same Person" -Andy Sipowicz)
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To: TexKat
Don't look at me. I didn't vote for the anti-pledge-of-allegiance Governator.
13 posted on 09/14/2004 2:06:16 PM PDT by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
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To: TexKat

I'm sure he decided to ban the BMG because it was determined to cause cancer in the state of California.


14 posted on 09/14/2004 2:06:49 PM PDT by Oblongata
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To: joesnuffy

---during his campaign, when I heard Ahhhhnold speaking of the "gun show lyoopwhole", I figured he didn't know diddley about the subject----


15 posted on 09/14/2004 2:10:25 PM PDT by rellimpank
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To: ajwharton

I hope Barrett refuses to service the .50 cals of California Law enforcement, saying it no longer does business in PRK.


16 posted on 09/14/2004 2:11:43 PM PDT by blanknoone ("New Media? Is that somewhere in Jersey?" Dan Rather aka Dem Blather)
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To: TexKat

And Arnold wanted us to change the constitution so he could run for POTUS. Enjoy your one term as governor of Cal. you just lost most of your base.


17 posted on 09/14/2004 2:14:35 PM PDT by Mogollon
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To: TexKat

Arnold really sucks. What a back stabbing piece of ----.


18 posted on 09/14/2004 2:15:40 PM PDT by ezoeni
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To: TexKat

Arnold really sucks. What a back stabbing piece of ----.


19 posted on 09/14/2004 2:16:11 PM PDT by ezoeni
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To: TexKat

"I told ya so"


20 posted on 09/14/2004 2:16:30 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: MarkL

was that the one in Alaska where the crab pot rigger went over board on one wave and went back on board on the next wave? freaky video, it was like the sea spat him out!


21 posted on 09/14/2004 2:16:44 PM PDT by Docbarleypop (Navy Doc)
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To: Mogollon
You're kidding yourself. Arnold's "base" of moderate Republicans and crossover Democrats probably supports this move - or at the very least do not consider prohibition of 50 caliber rifles any kind of "deal breaker".

The "base" you speak of voted for McClintock anyway, and they were a$$whomped 48-13 by the Governator last October.

Politically speaking, Arnold owes the McClintock base nothing.

22 posted on 09/14/2004 2:19:48 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: MikeinIraq

He is a RINO.

I don't think he's a turncoat because he was never on our side to begin with.

I'm a Republican. Next time I vote for Governor I am going to vote for Tom McClintock, the Republican.


23 posted on 09/14/2004 2:22:13 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault...)
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To: TexKat

Arnold is a social liberal. He is anti-gun and pro gay rights. Did you expect someone different? I didn't.


24 posted on 09/14/2004 2:22:37 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: TexKat

"Critics of the rifle argue there is no reasonable civilian use for the weapon."

Except as the framers of the constitution intended for citizens to prevent usurpation of freedom by the government.


25 posted on 09/14/2004 2:23:27 PM PDT by reed13
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To: Barlowmaker

"Politically speaking, Arnold owes the McClintock base nothing."

Unless Billious decides to run for office from Kalifornia...


26 posted on 09/14/2004 2:23:58 PM PDT by Yehuda (http://PostNineEleven.blogspot.com/)
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To: TexKat
But it looks so scary!


27 posted on 09/14/2004 2:30:07 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: ezoeni
Given that California could be the first line of defense against a Pacific invasion force, I'd like to see ownership of a .50 required of all men over 18 without a felony record.
That said, I don't think we need to throw out the terminator with the molten iron. Arnold is wrong on the gun issue, and several others. But he is right on a lot too, and much better on even these issues than Davis or Feinstein. I'd like a perfect world with perfect leaders too, but it just will never happen.
28 posted on 09/14/2004 2:37:16 PM PDT by JTHomes
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To: TexKat

But that's okay because he's a Republican. If he was a Democrat, then he'd be an Enemy of the Second Amendment. I'll sleep better knowing my rights are being stolen by my "friends."


29 posted on 09/14/2004 2:38:35 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Yo-Yo
But it looks so scary

Sweet.
30 posted on 09/14/2004 2:40:32 PM PDT by JTHomes
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To: TexKat
Classic case of "symbolism before substance".

I challenge anyone to show me one crime committed with a .50 cal anything..!!

We shall see , how this plays out.

FRegards,

31 posted on 09/14/2004 2:41:55 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Not all of us are sheep)
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To: TexKat
the 10-year federal ban ... on certain semiautomatic firearms known as "assault weapons

They're only known that way because we've let the gun-haters define the rhetoric. There is no such thing as a semi-automatic assault rifle. By definition, assault rifles are at least selectively automatic or burst-fire.

32 posted on 09/14/2004 2:42:30 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: TexKat
What a phoney! Obviously, terrorists will not respect the ban, and if a million plus people can sneak across the Southern border every year, there would be very little problem bringing in the weapons.

This simply tends to disarm the law-abiding--tilting the essential ratio between the armed defenders of California society and its various classes of enemy, more against the safety of the law-abiding.

And see, generally, The Right To Keep & Bear Arms.

William Flax

33 posted on 09/14/2004 2:52:19 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: TexKat

The ultimate girly man.


34 posted on 09/14/2004 2:53:16 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: JTHomes
Anyone that bans this rifle is clearly talking about disarming citizens. There is no other reason.

Just for kicks and giggles this weekend there will be three terminator dvd's taped to cinder blocks and will be used as target practice at 500+ yards someplace in America Im sure.
35 posted on 09/14/2004 2:56:06 PM PDT by 12.7mm
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To: TexKat

Don't need one of them .50 cal. thangs anyway.


36 posted on 09/14/2004 4:18:56 PM PDT by chainsaw (VOTE AMERICAN - VOTE REPUBLICAN)
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To: TexKat
Arnold, go to hell. FN .338 Lapua Magnum, bolt action, magazine fed LEGAL in California:


37 posted on 09/14/2004 5:11:43 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: 45Auto; 12.7mm; ajwharton; MikeinIraq; GunRunner; sargon; E. Pluribus Unum; Tredge; joesnuffy; ...
Rigged letter to Schwarzenegger caught

SACRAMENTO (AP) — Authorities intercepted a letter bound for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger that had been rigged to ignite when opened, one of 19 such letters sent to governors around the country since last week. Three of the letters found earlier caught fire, but no one has been injured.

The letter to Schwarzenegger was spotted Monday by screeners who routinely inspect letters intended for the governor and other members of the state's executive branch at a California Highway Patrol center in West Sacramento, CHP spokesman Tom Marshall said.

Schwarzenegger's office had no comment Tuesday.

Letters to other states postmarked from Las Vegas have featured a return address from Nevada's maximum-security Ely State Prison. Authorities said they were interviewing correctional officers and inmates at the prison and have narrowed their investigation to "a person of interest."

Marshall said authorities initially decided "because of the security issue" not to announce the interception. But the CHP confirmed the letter Tuesday after receiving numerous calls asking about bombs and terrorist materials allegedly intended for the governor.

Other governors targeted so far include those in Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Massachusetts, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New York, Oregon, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wyoming.

In addition to the 13 Republican and six Democratic governors, Nevada's corrections director received a booby-trapped letter.

U.S. Postal officials said sending a letter intended to harm the recipient is a federal felony, with a possible prison sentence up to 20 years.

38 posted on 09/14/2004 6:54:42 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

They've pretty well figured out that these letter bombs came from inmates at some prison that is evidently being run by the prisoners.


39 posted on 09/14/2004 7:32:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: GunRunner

Yes; one.

Asshole on the armored bulldozer in Colorado.

Equally sensible question is, "How many crimes have been comitted using a privately owned backhoe?"

Maybe I shouldn't be allowed to have my 42" evirofreak-killer assault-bar & chain on my felling saw, either.

BTW do they make hi-cap mags for the .50? Just curious....


40 posted on 09/14/2004 8:54:29 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: Barlowmaker
You're kidding yourself. Arnold's "base" of moderate Republicans and crossover Democrats probably supports this move

Do you consider yourself part of this base?

41 posted on 09/15/2004 7:04:45 AM PDT by jmc813 (CAN YOU MAKE THE SAME CLAIM;ARE YOU A VIRGIN?)
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To: TexKat

It's not MY fault. I voted for McClintock!


42 posted on 09/15/2004 7:52:42 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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