Skip to comments.Evidence that CBS News 60 Minutes II is guilty of malice and intent to defraud
Posted on 09/14/2004 9:43:28 PM PDT by charleston1
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Look, I know that you are excited about your revelation, but your vanity post isn't "Breaking News" and will piss off quite a few FReepers. Come on, surely you are smart enough to figure out what "Breaking News" means...
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Actually that is really major, he is pointing out something epic that others could easily miss. Son of Buckhead. Now that even the LATIMES is admitting the documents are definitely forgeries, this is the next phase. To what degree did CBS fail to follow proper journalistic standards in vetting the documents, or even much worse, intentionally shopped "experts" to authenticate a small portion of the docs to give credibility to something they knew was a fraud from the start, with the clear intention of influencing a presidential election?
Come on, cut the newbie some slack. It still stands as a good and informative post.
I remember your excellent post on the six documents, Charleston! You should link the post here for other freepers and media lurkers to read. I think you are right that it points out CBS where not dupes but shaping the outcome they wanted.
Yeah, its more informative than the crusty stuff I usually post.
Very interesting, I hadn't really thought of it in that way. It makes logical sense. It clarifies why CBS wants no investigation and is pursuing the stonewall strategy. The Congress and the FCC really need to get involved in this.
Yeah they are still expert shopping but the market is real tight.
read his outstanding post/analysis on the usa today documents. They received 6 MEMOS! CBS says there were only 4! His thesis is CBS also received 6 but buried the other two! He is an outstanding newbie. Let's hear from USA TODAY!
Yes it IS Breaking News.
BREAKING NEWS? >>
yea, that's what he put. so?
I agree the poster deserves a break because of the informative post, but lately this site has become more of a chat room for emotional outburst. This well thought out comment could have been posted to at least 50 threads as of late, and hardly deserves it's own thread, when we know the bandwidth here is being tested because of all the new visitors and members
Sorry about your treatment here....thanks for the info.
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Good info, thanks.
"I remember your excellent post on the six documents, Charleston! You should link the post here for other freepers and media lurkers to read. I think you are right that it points out CBS where not dupes but shaping the outcome they wanted."
I think some of the replies above were made without reading my whole article and I knew I was taking a chance making it as long as I did. I think I have fairly pointed out the methodology CBS used including the deliberate witholding of two key documents from the public in a deliberate effor to not be found out. I am linking to that first post I made here:
It was breaking news six hours ago.......not now.
I agree, from a legal technical POV, this is breaking news. That is, crossing the "malice" threshhold etc.
For those above who've already figured it out I'll give the poster one more plug here:
1. CBS was given the 6 documents that CNN was
2. One of the two they DIDN'T reveal was pointed out as a fraud by this expert
3. CBS stops further analysis and runs with the 4 they have left.
4. Yet (and I'll add my point here) there one & only "expert", the spirtual handwriting guy (who isn't certified) has written that when one document of a group is known to be a fraud the rest are automatically either suspect or ruled out prima facia, too!
What's important here is that ALL of this gets linked back to the DNC AND Kerry. Rather is finished professionally and may even wind up in jail. The DNC and Kerry need to go with him.
Rebump for breaking.
We may have to have detention and give classes to people who think every thought that pops into their head needs its own thread.
So are you saying that Rather knowingly, premeditated with malice of forethought intentionally set out to defraud the voting public who are in the undecided group?
It's unfortunate O'Reilly will go down with Rather.
Welcome to you.
BTW, some formatting would be easier on the old eyes. ;^)
I just e-mailed link to this post to Kerry Spot for him to confirm - if your catch is correct this could be the big(gest) one!
that wouldn't be the way it worked; putting on my Bernard Goldberg hat here, what would have happened is that Rather (or more likely just his producer Mames), with their bias, shut down the authentication process before they ran out of subject material, believing in their Kerry loving heart of hearts that the story was true, if only it weren't for those darned document examiners who make swiss cheese out of the Rather / Mames source document production factory.
The reason they were only given one document only, is that if you line all six up, you will see that 2 of the six signatures are completely different.
Of the remaining 4, there are actulty only 2 signatures, each of those 2 signatures were cut and pasted on the other 2 documents.
The Mods need to crack down
BTW, some formatting would be easier on the old eyes. ;^)
Er, I plead totally guilty. I admit it, I typed it up on Microsoft Word and it looked so real there that I just pasted it into the freeper post box thinking it would look good here too. Next time I'll use my typewriter;-)
LoL! Hey! that's what I was working on!
Yep...that's the ticket!
You can ignore it by getting your snotty butts of this post.
Thanks for the ping!
LOL I can't believe I used to give him an hour a day.
Excellent work....ignore the opinion from behind the curtain.
I bet I can say why ... because nobody that will pass the laugh test is going to sign off on these documents, even one at a time & particularly not all in tandemo ROFLMAO
This is definitely BREAKING NEWS! Can you get a screen shot of that displayed document with the date? It does not accompany the ABC story.
The ABC story says: "Ultimately, they played a peripheral role and deferred to another expert who examined all four of the documents used,"
Clearly ABC does not understand that they were looking at a fifth document that CBS had suppressed.
I just posted to the admin moderator to suggest that this thread be put back in BREAKING NEWS.
Good job. Now, please get us the proof. If you don't have a means of getting a screen shot from the tape, then give us the city where you are. There may be a Freeper who can perform a screen capture for you. (Make a COPY of the tape!)
Give the poster another read - I think this is a bombshell. It makes clear the degree to which CBS knew that they were working with phony material ahead of time AND WITHELD IT FROM THE PUBLIC. They didn't say, in their report, CBS also obtained two other documents from the same source they weren't able to authenticate. Heck, they didn't authenticate any AND withheld the two. I wonder if USA Today knew that CBS did, indeed, have the extra two docs when they published their .pdf file.
Yeah I can get a videograph up online. I'll do so ASAP! I'm off for awhile.
We may have another winner here if we can get charleston1 some help in preparing a screen shot of the document display from the ABC report!
Charleston1 saw something in the broadcast that ABC news missed! CBS was clearly shopping experts.
yes, USA does know cuz charleston posted the JPEG or whatever file it was 2 days ago!