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MSNBC's Hardball Just Had Dean's Former Campaign Manager Float New "Theory"
Hank All-American | Sep 17, 2004 | Hank All-American

Posted on 09/17/2004 4:58:50 PM PDT by Hank All-American

Dean's former campaign Manager just mentioned a "theory" he heard that the documents were actually made in 1972, but were later scanned, changing the font.

Can you believe how desperate the liberals are? Did it also change the terminology from Air Force to Army? Did it also change the signature? Did it also change the retirement date for General Staudt?

They will never concede the documents are forgeries. This will live on in liberal mythology forever. Like the October Surprise.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ang; bush; cbs; desperatedems; killian
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To: Hank All-American
That's Trippi's theory????

Trippy, man.

121 posted on 09/17/2004 8:34:36 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

[119] Very good analysis.


122 posted on 09/17/2004 8:38:54 PM PDT by Diddley (C'mon Dan. 'fess up.)
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To: Diddley

Thank you, sir.


123 posted on 09/17/2004 8:40:01 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: jayef
Is he talking about some OCR scan of the documents? Here's my question . . . WHY? Again it's the same thing with these morons. They think that because soemone COULD do a thing that that means that possibility can't be closed off. It doesn't matter how ridiculous or how easily it can be demonstrated just how remote or implausible these things are they'll cling to it. It's PATHETIC, is it not?

I could be wrong but I think OJ played golf today.

124 posted on 09/17/2004 8:54:45 PM PDT by LittleRedRooster
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To: VadeRetro
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125 posted on 09/17/2004 8:59:07 PM PDT by turbocat
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To: turbocat
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126 posted on 09/17/2004 9:03:26 PM PDT by turbocat
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So, why don't they simply produce a document with a 1970's era typewriter and scan with OCR to show us how this theory works in reality. This should be simple enough.

Oh, because it's impossible!
127 posted on 09/17/2004 9:26:16 PM PDT by DocRock (Why don't the RNC protesters come down here and help clean up after Charley and Frances?)
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To: turbocat
Oh, we can make fun, but Dan's going to forge ahead in pursuit of the real story.
128 posted on 09/18/2004 6:39:13 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: knak

Where's Steven King when you need him? Another best seller coming to you soon.............


129 posted on 09/18/2004 6:45:18 AM PDT by OregonRancher (illigitimus non carborundum)
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To: Hank All-American

They truely belive the American public is THAT STUPID!!


130 posted on 09/18/2004 6:46:42 AM PDT by IC Ken
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To: Hank All-American

It's feasible that the originals were scanned into a OCR (Optical Character Recognition) package which would scan individual characters and substitute modern fonts.

The only reason for doing so, would be to EDIT the document, changing it's content.

Once the content was changed, they are FALSE! Let's see the originals, if they even exist.


131 posted on 09/18/2004 6:49:18 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Dr. Frank fan

I heard this theory too but it was several days earlier by a caller on a talk radio program. The talk show host was not too knowledgeable because there is a simple question to ask when one scans a document and applies OCR (optical character recognition) and that is, why? For the purposes of electronic filing one would scan a document as a picture image or a fax. One would only apply OCR if one intended to modify, manipulate, edit, or otherwise, change the document. No one uses OCR for archiving such documents. So, when you and others hear about OCR just ask, why? Then tell them, all OCR proves is that the documents were indeed corrupted by the process, period.


132 posted on 09/18/2004 6:53:20 AM PDT by Final Authority
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To: TC Rider
"It's feasible that the originals were scanned into a OCR (Optical Character Recognition) package which would scan individual characters and substitute modern fonts."

If anyone has ever used OCR, then I'm sure they also had the occasional change of characters, also. I'm not talking about fonts, but actually changing letters such as "ln" to "h" or "in" to "m" or "cl" to "d". This was common, (at least when I used mine), and I don't see any substituted character indicating an OCR scan. Of course the new theory will be that they corrected them. *yawn* Where's my PJs?
133 posted on 09/18/2004 6:57:46 AM PDT by DocRock (Why don't the RNC protesters come down here and help clean up after Charley and Frances?)
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To: Hank All-American
the documents were actually made in 1972, but were later scanned, changing the font.

They must be true believers that we're all dumb as rocks.

134 posted on 09/18/2004 7:03:09 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: DocRock
If anyone has ever used OCR, then I'm sure they also had the occasional change of characters, also. I'm not talking about fonts, but actually changing letters such as "ln" to "h" or "in" to "m" or "cl" to "d". This was common, (at least when I used mine), and I don't see any substituted character indicating an OCR scan. Of course the new theory will be that they corrected them. *yawn* Where's my PJs?

I have used OCR through the years and hate it for the same reasons.

Regardless, if they scanned the originals into OCR to change/edit them that still makes them FRAUDS!

Where is the chain of ownership, where are the originals!

For all we know, Burkett found Killian's hand written to-do list for April and decided to flesh it out.

1. Bush needs physical
2. Bush wants transfer to Alabama
3. Call Staudt about golf on Saturday
4. Sugar coat doughnuts for breakfast tomorrow

135 posted on 09/18/2004 7:24:34 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: January24th
crumple marks on the PDF

Now this one is interesting:

Has anyone compared all the sets of PDFs to check for crumple marks?

This could tell us a few things, like:

Were the sending, and recieving, fax machines high-end grey-scale machines (or, the recieving machine could have been a fax server).

If the sending OR receiving machines WERE NOT high end grey-scale machines, someone at CBS may have crumpled the documents to "age" them - in which case, CBS is MASSIVELY fAx0rd.

Or, it may be the docs were scanned and emailed, instead of faxed, to CBS, or to an intermediary. That might explain the need to go to Kinkos - they could do they scan, which would almost certainly be a color scan, which would leave the crumple marks in.

Have any bloggers mined this vein yet?

136 posted on 09/18/2004 7:26:58 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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