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CBS Relied On Dems for Documents
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Posted on 09/17/2004 11:45:54 PM PDT by RatherBiased.com

The Washington Post and The New York Times both have huge stories in today's editions on the connections between Bill Burkett, CBS News, and the Democratic Party. Memogate is the story that just keeps giving.

First from the Post's:

The former Texas National Guard officer suspected of providing CBS News with possibly forged records on President Bush's military service called on Democratic activists to wage "war" against Republican "dirty tricks" in a series of Internet postings in which he also used phrases similar to several employed in the disputed documents. [...]

In e-mail messages to a Yahoo discussion group for Texas Democrats over the past few months, Burkett laid out a rationale for using what he termed "down and dirty" tactics against Bush. He said he had passed his ideas to the Democratic National Committee but that the DNC seemed "afraid to do what I suggest."

In another message, dated Sept. 4, Burkett hinted he might have had advance knowledge of some details in an explosive segment that aired Sept. 8 on the CBS News program "60 Minutes." [...]

"I believe that Bush knows that there is more coming out than Ben Barnes," Burkett wrote. "No proof, just gut instinct."

In an Aug. 13 essay for a liberal webzine called OnlineJournal.com, Burkett hinted again that President Bush was going to be attacked. This time he was more specific:

Americans will get through the gotchas of the preemptive strike from the Republican swift boat crews who want to elevate obviously flimsy charges in order to immunize Americans from more Bush assaults. The Bush assaults are rumored to finally close the issue of Bush's disappearance from his Air National Guard duty in Alabama; efforts and methods to falsify and cover up Bush problems in his files; and the obvious disciplinary actions that led to his grounding from flying. Both sides will count on the electorate to sicken of this style and leave the real meat on the table untouched.

As documented in most recent polls, the real issues of Iraq have already required enough Maalox for most Americans. Most Americans don't like war. They are rapidly moving their focus to their domestic issues of jobs, healthcare and education.

Burkett elaborated on his thoughts in an Aug. 31 posting not printed in the Post:

While some of us pine for the return of Bill CLinton, that's not the real answer. Many of us have risked everything on this election. And the disappointment is deep and difficult to manage.

But we fight on, inspite of incompetance at the top.

The truth probably is that many of the insiders simply didn't think to chekc someone out in Texas. Does that mean they won't check out those that submit themselves for key positions, as well. That's what we all think.

CBS has said that it obtained its controversial documents within the last few weeks. It may have received them from Burkett following the latter's unsuccessful attempts to pass them on to former Democratic senator Max Cleland who traveled to Texas in late August. Before Cleland's trip, Burkett had telephoned the ex-senator saying that he had damaging information about Bush. He was told to pass this information along to the Democratic National Committe but, according to the Post, national hq was less than enthusiastic.

In an Aug. 21 posting, Burkett referred to a conversation with former senator Max Cleland (D-Ga.) about the need to counteract Republican tactics: "I asked if they wanted to counterattack or ride this to ground and outlast it, not spending any money. He said counterattack. So I gave them the information to do it with. But none of them have called me back."

Cleland confirmed that he had a two- or three-minute conversation by cell phone with a Texan named Burkett in mid-August while he was on a car ride. He remembers Burkett saying that he had "valuable" information about Bush, and asking what he should with it. "I told him to contact the [Kerry] campaign," Cleland said. "You get this information tens of times a day, and you don't know if it is legit or not."

Contacted by the New York Times, Cleland confirmed contact with Burkett, acknowledging that the disgruntled former guardsman had offered him information relating to Bush's guard service.

"I couldn't swear to it whether he used the term documents or information," Cleland told the paper. "It was some kind of stuff, some kind of information he wanted to get to the campaign, or something, regarding Bush's National Guard service. I referred him up to somebody in the campaign."

CBS has publicly denied Burkett was its source although a source within the network told Times reporter Jim Rutenberg that Burkett had "helped with the reports" but did not elaborate on exactly how.

Burkett's lawyer, a prominent Democratic activist named David Van Os who is the party's candidate for the Texas Supreme Court denied that his client had forged the Memogate documents.

"From my knowledge of Bill's character, I am 100 percent positively, unequivocally certain that Bill Burkett has not created or falsified any documents," Van Os told the Times.

Stan Merriman, co-founder of a group seeking to make the Texas Democratic party more liberal, echoed Van Os's sentiments in a Sept. 17 posting to the Yahoo Texas Democrats mailing list.

"Our brother, Bill Burkett is under siege by the Carl Rove [sic] smear machine," Merriman wrote.

"David Van Os assures me that as Bill's legal Counsel on a longstanding basis, any assertions that Bill has engaged in 'forgery' vis a vis the now infamous documentation of the Bush desertion of duty as a Texas National Guardsman is total smear with the footprints of the Karl Rove modus operandi all over it."

"I stand with both our brothers Burkett and Van Os and applaud their guts to stand up to the right wing slander machine; President Kerry and many of our DNC brethren can take a lesson from our two populist fellow-Texans who have the cajones to look contemptuously in the eye these ruthless cowards bringing down our formerly proud democracy and tell them to go to h*ll."

A long-time associate of Burkett's is James Moore, a former reporter for CBS's Houston affiliate, KHOU. Since 1994, Moore has been hounding Bush over his National Guard service. Eventually, he left "objective" journalism and has since become a part of the anti-Bush cottage industry that has sprung up following Bush's emergence as a national figure. He is the author of two books on the president,

Bush's Brain and Bush's War for Reelection.

While researching his second book, Moore received assistance from Burkett who provided him with a number of documents which Moore used to make the case that Bush had acted dishonorably during Vietnam. Some of these documents were given to CBS News which used in a Feb. 12 Evening News report which relayed Burkett's charges that Bush had instructed staff members to destroy documents which cast doubt on his Guard service.

Mary Mapes, the producer of CBS's Sept. 8 report which relied on the controversial Memogate documents likely was the recipient of these papers since, according to the network, she has been working on the Bush Guard story for the past five years and is based in Dallas. CBS officials have confirmed that Mapes interviewed Burkett.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: burkett; cbs; cbsnews; forgery; killian; memogate; rather
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To: Cboldt
I think the bigger motivating objective of CBS News (and NBC, ABC, CNN, PBS, NPR, AP, etc.) is the ability to manipulate public opinion and the political process - not necessarily to earn a profit. It's about power first, and money second

I think that's almost right.

I think there is a larger "entertainment" industry that controls and directs these "news" organizations.

The entertainment industry needs its consumers to be passive, dependent, and in need of stimulation.

It just so happens that these ideal entertainment consumers make good Democrats.

The function of MSM "news" is to increase feelings of helplessness and dependency.

The goal of their leashholders is economic and social, to change citizens into consumers and to make those consumers passive and open to programming.

It's much bigger than dan rather.

101 posted on 09/18/2004 6:48:10 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Hillary becomes the RAT candidate on October 9. You saw it here first.)
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To: p. henry
Even if Burkett is the forger, he may not have been the faxer. Remember, Rather said the memos came from "an unimpeachable source." Burkett is not "unimpeachable." Therefore, did someone else, someone who is unimpeachable, visit Burkett in Texas and use that Kinko's? If so, who? Who is the Deep Throat of this story?

Rather is a liar, so his assertion about the quality of the source is suspect.

102 posted on 09/18/2004 6:51:42 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: jporcus

I've asked this same question on a couple of other threads. Anyone know anything about the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002? Doesn't it require some very strict provisions for corporate oversight and governance of publicly-held companies?


103 posted on 09/18/2004 6:54:10 AM PDT by get'emall (Kofi Annan: Lawn Jockey on the Arab Street.)
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To: Jim Noble
I just read an article from Talon News by Jeff Gannon that fits in with that.

He said, "I'm really ashamed of what my daughter has become. She's a typical liberal. She went into journalism with an ax to grind, and that was to promote radical feminism."

In commenting on the Wednesday's 60 Minutes show, he said, "It was a farce, it was fraud. I'm sorry as a father that my daughter was the producer of it."

He goes on more in the article. He sounded to be to be truly ashamed of her and what she is doing.

http://www.theweekly.com/news/2004/September/17/Rathergate.html

104 posted on 09/18/2004 6:58:31 AM PDT by FarmerW
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To: PhilDragoo
Aha! Bill Burkett.

105 posted on 09/18/2004 7:16:05 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: ArmyBratproud

Not to mention it brings up the question just HOW does an obvious crackpot like Burkett even have access to Cleland? why did Cleland take the call? The whole CBS scandal is the DNC collusion!


106 posted on 09/18/2004 7:19:52 AM PDT by boop (Testing the tagline feature!)
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To: RatherBiased.com

BUMP!


107 posted on 09/18/2004 8:31:14 AM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: RatherBiased.com

---Cleland confirmed that he had a two- or three-minute conversation by cell phone with a Texan named Burkett in mid-August while he was on a car ride. He remembers Burkett saying that he had "valuable" information about Bush, and asking what he should with it. "I told him to contact the [Kerry] campaign," Cleland said. "You get this information tens of times a day, and you don't know if it is legit or not."---

What would Burkett be doing with Cleland's cell number? I think Cleland has revealed more than he intended.


108 posted on 09/18/2004 8:42:17 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: PhilDragoo
Phil...

I found the same photo of Burkett at:
Bill Burkett@Ratherbiased
109 posted on 09/18/2004 9:00:57 AM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Jim Noble

---It's really a huge story, much bigger than Watergate. It's more like the Dreyfus affair in terms of potential connections within and among the powerful.---

A criminal conspiracy involving the Kerry campaign, the DNC, and CBS, to influence a federal election by illegal means.


110 posted on 09/18/2004 9:17:17 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: RatherBiased.com

Great report, first rate, the top of the top!


111 posted on 09/18/2004 9:50:54 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: claudiustg

Burkett would not have made obvious mistakes like OETR in his memos. I think he gave the "nuggets" of info (Staudt etc) and some lingo to someone else who composed them with the military-ism errors.


112 posted on 09/18/2004 9:55:32 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Penny
My pleasure, Penny! Glad you're having fun with this. So am I! ;-)

Cheers!

113 posted on 09/18/2004 10:13:55 AM PDT by Bonaparte (and guess who sighs his lullabies, to nights that never end...)
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To: RatherBiased.com

What best describes Dan Rather's relationship with his peers?


114 posted on 09/18/2004 10:17:57 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (What part of SHALL MAKE NO LAW do they not understand?)
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To: Travis McGee

Yes, all very suspicious. And how is it that Burkett would be talking to Cleland by cell phone? How would Burkett have Cleland's cell number? There would already have had to been some sort of conspiracy. Are we to believe that Burkett took in all these high rolling operators?
I smell criminal culpability all up and down the line here.


115 posted on 09/18/2004 10:18:02 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: clee1
"Wasting your time with Ford. Their Board is as leftist as RATher and CBS."

As that may be, it didn't take much of my time to contact them. And they just might want to live to fight another day. If that means distancing themselves from Rather and CBS until this current controversy is put to rest one way or another, they just might have the sense to do that.

116 posted on 09/18/2004 10:22:36 AM PDT by Bonaparte (and guess who sighs his lullabies, to nights that never end...)
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To: RatherBiased.com
From this it is clear what happened. Burkett forged the documents and then met with Cleland for advice, who told him to send the documents to the DNC Headquarters for evaluation. The DNC then tipped off Mapes of CBS who visited Burkett and got copies of the forgeries directly from him (via fax) for the Rather report.
The Travis County Democratic Party organization has been the source of all this set up and everyone involved has ties to it - Burkett, Burkett's lawyer, Barnes, Rather's daughter and even Rather himself, in a fund raising capacity. CBS has been working hand in glove with DNC Headquarters, which has been an expediter and communications center for the smear campaign.
117 posted on 09/18/2004 11:07:41 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: CIB-173RDABN

[92] I agree with you, and I have also heard about the build-up-then-dump charge.


118 posted on 09/18/2004 3:08:13 PM PDT by Diddley (C'mon Dan; 'fess up.)
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To: mtntop3
[99] and often rather quickly, destroys those so unfortunate to have this condition

Yup. Seems to be a death wish of sorts.

119 posted on 09/18/2004 3:10:29 PM PDT by Diddley (C'mon Dan; 'fess up.)
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To: Bonaparte
Well, I have now received my first "rejection" to my complaining note--not objection--and thought you'd like to see it:

<<<<<<<< Your message
To: ronald.stovall@aexp.com
Subject: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:05:12 +0200
was deleted without being read on Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:19:09 +0200 >>>>>>>>>>>

I can only speculate two things: a)not interested in rethinking its advertising support, or b)overloaded by folk like us and plowing ahead by ignoring us.

Either way, I'm not pleased.

If you've had similar replies to any of the companies you listed, please advise.
Regards . . . Penny

120 posted on 09/20/2004 4:29:43 AM PDT by Penny
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To: Penny
To my emails, I've received the usual canned reply from all I've sent. But that was last week. It could be that some of them are now getting overloaded.

There are still phone calls, faxes, snail mail.

Perseverance furthers.

    American Express Company (NYSE: AXP)

    World Financial Center
    200 Vesey St. New York, NY 10285

    Phone: 212-640-2000 / Toll-free: 1-800-964-8542

According to Hoover's Online, Amex is the largest travel agency in the US and 80% of its profits are generated here. VISA is among their top competitors in plastic.

121 posted on 09/20/2004 11:25:45 AM PDT by Bonaparte (and guess who sighs his lullabies, to nights that never end...)
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