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In Rush to Air, CBS Quashed Memo Worries
Washington Post ^ | 09/20/2004 | Howard Kurtz, Michael Dobbs

Posted on 09/18/2004 7:27:43 PM PDT by jhouston

In the early-morning hours of Sept. 8, Dan Rather was preparing to fly to Washington for a crucial interview in the Old Executive Office Building, but torrential rain kept him in New York.

White House communications director Dan Bartlett had agreed to talk to "60 Minutes," but only on condition that the CBS program provide copies of what were being billed as newly unearthed memos indicating that President Bush had received preferential treatment in the National Guard. The papers were hand-delivered at 7:45 a.m. CBS correspondent John Roberts, filling in for Rather, sat down with Bartlett at 11:15.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cbs; cbsnews; forgery; killian; kurtz; michaeldobbs; napalminthemorning; rather; tang
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To: jhouston

CBS News: Rush to Mis-Judgment

101 posted on 09/18/2004 8:49:19 PM PDT by reg45
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Nervous breakdown is a non-medical term but is used as a polite way of saying Burkett was hospitalized twice in the last 6 years for depression.

102 posted on 09/18/2004 8:52:05 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland (Have you forgotten?)
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To: Howlin

August 21, and Cleland came to Texas August 24.

103 posted on 09/18/2004 8:54:01 PM PDT by hobson
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To: t2buckeye
"[These journalists] are so surprised that people are focusing on the forgeries and not the story."

I don't beleive they are surprised. It is an intentional ploy to deflect accusations onto Bush and away from themselves. It's the most disgusting part of the whole fiasco...the way they PRETEND that they don't get it.


104 posted on 09/18/2004 8:54:02 PM PDT by DestroytheDemocrats
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To: Howlin

"Mid August"
I believe it may have been when he was in Texas with the political theatre bit.
Got a date on that farce?

Also, anyone have a source that says Barnes was convinced to come forward due to the discovery of these documents..?
I remember this vividly, but I don't remember which story or stories it was mentioned it.

105 posted on 09/18/2004 8:54:10 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection -
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To: GraniteStateConservative

'We're collectively better at most everything than the WH staff.'

Bush-wah, the WH staff played this to a TEE. "whaaa the hell?"..."who, me?"....."whatever..."

absolutely 5 steps ahead of CBS et al.

106 posted on 09/18/2004 8:55:20 PM PDT by bitt ("I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore." (CongressmanBillybob))
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To: hobson

Great diagram - needs more global exposure - maybe Drudge would consider posting it???

107 posted on 09/18/2004 8:56:23 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: jhouston
Does anyone else think that this is a pretty poor excuse for investigative journalists to put out.

I didn't see anything original in the entire story. When they mentioned that Barnes/Rather had known each other for 30 years, they conveniently left out that it was not mentioned during the 60 Minutes interview. Didn't identify Matley as the uncertified document examiner.

Shoddy, shoddy. Hang your head, Howie and Mikey!
108 posted on 09/18/2004 8:57:39 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: kristinn

One other thing: No mention of Van Os.

109 posted on 09/18/2004 8:58:01 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: js1138
But we did not verify this singlehandedly, of our own knowledge. It was done collectively, though a database consisting of the experience of many lives, a wealth of knowledge not then available to Bartlett.
110 posted on 09/18/2004 8:58:37 PM PDT by Fatuncle (Do you suppose the Dixie Chicks will admit that they are ashamed of Dan Rather being from Texas?)
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To: VRWCTexan

Thanks! It's probably too big but I will send it to him.

111 posted on 09/18/2004 9:01:43 PM PDT by hobson
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To: counterpunch

you are SO right. WaPo says Barnes was first out of the box, before the docs.

CBS says docs first, then Barnes.

Confusion generated because, like sKerry's stories, they can never remember the LIES correctly...and THAT is what is BRNGING THEM DOWN.

Forward this info to Hewitt, Rush and Hannity.

and to the NY POST and the WaTimes.

112 posted on 09/18/2004 9:02:06 PM PDT by bitt ("I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore." (CongressmanBillybob))
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To: jhouston

***Rather and CBS now blame the White House. If the White House had just called them liars and forgers they would have never...***

Ah HAH! Now the story is out. CBS kept saying that the White House had no problem with the memos' authenticity, making it sound as though the White House had plenty of time to examine them. They also said that they GOT the memos from the White House. Now we know that they didn't.

113 posted on 09/18/2004 9:02:16 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: counterpunch

You are right.

Here is a plausible scenario:

After Burkett connected with the Kerry campaign i.e. Senator Cleland, discussions among the staff led to some ideas including using them in their own ads. But they were worried about their integrity, probably endorsed by Ben Barnes as he was in the area to look at them. After Barnes confirmed to the Kerry campaign that the documents did exist and appear authentic the Kerry camp wanted an even higher standard of confirmation. Since contact with Cleland had been established and probable discussions with Senator Kerry, Kerry sent Cleland to look at the documents ---the stunt at the Bush ranch was simply a ruse to disguise what he was really doing, and he confirmed that from his military knowledge the documents were authentic.

The Kerry campaign contacted CBS after the decision was made that this would be more advantagous as a news event rather than a campaign ad and the additional vetting would confirm the story. It was probable that connections to CBS were active if not even "friendly" knowing that Dan Rather was looking for more info on a "supposed" story he had been working on for years.

The Kerry campaign led CBS to Burkett and Barnes and the unimpeachable source for the documents was not Burkett but Senator Cleland who provided CBS with the leads and personal assurance the documents were authentic.

This is why Rather is hiding. If the ultimate source of his information is the Kerry campaign he has a host of problems to deal with. He is not protecting Burkett. He is particularly protecting Senator Cleland.


114 posted on 09/18/2004 9:04:36 PM PDT by Mad Dog Charlie
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To: jhouston
Roberts: How am I supposed to verify something that came from a dead man in three hours?

WE don't know. But we do know the result of not doing so. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

115 posted on 09/18/2004 9:06:51 PM PDT by Diddley (C'mon Dan; 'fess up.)
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To: counterpunch
Barnes had direct contact with someone in the chain of custody PRIOR TO CBS.

I agree with that, and I personnaly think the DNC or Kerry campaign had the documents before CBS saw them. The American Spectator's "Anatomy of a Forgery" has the forgeries in DNC / Kerry campaign hands weeks before CBS saw them.

The only nit I was picking with your previous secenario was Barnes getting the forgeries DIRECTLY FROM the forger. Maybe, maybe not, was the only difference I took.

116 posted on 09/18/2004 9:07:39 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Brandon

'They complain that they can't afford to do in-depth investigative journalism, '

no, I think that was the WH guy, Bartlett, who said that:

" But Bartlett said CBS never asked him to verify the memos and that he had neither the time nor the resources to do so."

117 posted on 09/18/2004 9:08:33 PM PDT by bitt ("I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore." (CongressmanBillybob))
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To: Fatuncle

The list of people who could have vouched for these documents grows shorter every day. Right now there is not a single living person who knew Killian and Bush at the time who has not denied the validity of these documents.

That leaves a rather large question gaping -- who the heck could have vouched for them? Other than Burkett?

CBS did not get suckered. They walked into this with eyes wide shut.

118 posted on 09/18/2004 9:10:21 PM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: Howlin; counterpunch; Cboldt
On August 21, Burkett circulated an e-mail claiming he had been "in touch with Max Cleland".

On August 25, he posted the message that "we have reassembled [Bush's] files".

Barnes contacted Rather "during the Republican convention" (Aug 30-Sept 2).

On September 2, the documents were faxed from Kinko's.

Mapes contacted CBS on September 3.

119 posted on 09/18/2004 9:10:35 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: jhouston

I have read this story before.

It was called "Moby Dick."

The Dan Rather character was called Ahab and the Bush family was called "the great white whale."

I seem to remember Ahab came to a bad end.

120 posted on 09/18/2004 9:10:42 PM PDT by Inyokern
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